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Topic of the Week - What's the best fat burner supplement of all time and why?

AdelV said:
This has a bit of everything in it ;P
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I'll say. Synephrine, Higenamine, DMAA, 2-Aminosheptane, PEA, Horenine and Yohimbine?

Which stimulant does this product use? All of them. Oh, and 170 mg of caffeine.

There isn't a stim on the market that I have used that has a strong effect on me...Beyond Yohimbine which doesn't agree with me....But I would be hesitant to take that product at full dose. Doesn't mean it is good or bad...Just, wow.
 
Hands down, the best fat burner I've ever tried - dropping over 6 lbs. the first week and 3-4 every week thereafter - was the OG Anabolic (now Athletic) Xtreme Slim Xtreme. 2 pills/day was insane. Couldn't sleep, couldn't stop moving.
 
Formutech Lean EFX - tons of energy, lots of servings, friendly price. Worked more as a pwo, then a fat burner.
Formutech Level II - I've had great results in terms of weight loss with this product.
 
I am currently stacking evomuse dcp with ignit3 from OL and using Evomuse Supernova for a topical. to early to tell results yet but the first day dosing both was not easy,but adapted quick. so far haven't been able to asses weightloss but ghar1ine i can safely say has made my workout and gains better but may be keeping my weight up despite correct eating method and cardio.
 
does anyone remember the anabolic extreme original 2005 version of stimulant-x?
 
twinlabs RIPPED FUEL. I used to eat those all the time, could buy them cheap at Osco-now CVS.


oh yeah...don't forget those little red Sudafed pills, but not really a 'supplement', lol.
 
I know these two items are revered here. But, Ignit3 and DCP haven't really done much for me fat burning wise. I stack both together and I am on a ketogenic eating plan. Even before I started that eating plan I was taking those pills and keeping high on protein and few carbs. On my days when I wasn't lifting I would do 6-30second sprint cycles on a treadmill in a total 25 minute HIIT program 4 times a week.

With Keto,the losses aren't much more signifigant and some days even without breaking keto protocol I have gained a pound. To be quite honest i had more luck with hydroxycut and yohimbine combo from twinlabs.
 
chaossentry said:
I know these two items are revered here. But, Ignit3 and DCP haven't really done much for me fat burning wise. I stack both together and I am on a ketogenic eating plan. Even before I started that eating plan I was taking those pills and keeping high on protein and few carbs. On my days when I wasn't lifting I would do 6-30second sprint cycles on a treadmill in a total 25 minute HIIT program 4 times a week.

With Keto,the losses aren't much more signifigant and some days even without breaking keto protocol I have gained a pound. To be quite honest i had more luck with hydroxycut and yohimbine combo from twinlabs.
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without knowing your history...if your protein intake is high enough, along with total cals, it could be possible that you are gaining muscle while losing fat-particularly if you are new to lifting....how are your clothes fitting?
 
chaossentry said:
I am currently stacking evomuse dcp with ignit3 from OL and using Evomuse Supernova for a topical. to early to tell results yet but the first day dosing both was not easy
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chaossentry said:
I know these two items are revered here. But, Ignit3 and DCP haven't really done much for me fat burning wise.
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A week ago was too early to tell; now 7 days later youve concluded they not doing much? Fat burning is typically not conclusively assessed over a 1-2 week period, right?
 
thebigt said:
without knowing your history...if your protein intake is high enough, along with total cals, it could be possible that you are gaining muscle while losing fat-particularly if you are new to lifting....how are your clothes fitting?
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Well I was bordering around 280,thing is when i was building alot more muscle was when i was not on a keto diet. Because and this is just my assumption the carbs i was taking helped put more anabolic action into creating muscle. Problem is,I was looking bulkier,not more cut up. My clothes are the same. I have been lifting since august of last year. Strictly 5x5 strong lift routine.
 
Nac said:
A week ago was too early to tell; now 7 days later youve concluded they not doing much? Fat burning is typically not conclusively assessed over a 1-2 week period, right?
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I weigh myself religiously,I am someone whose body chemistry responds rapidly,either weight gain or weight loss. I do know that on a non-keto eating plan ignit3 and dcp really weren't doing much. I can say this,supernova does assist in problem areas of fat. I am not expecting a miracle,but I am someone whose body responds very quickly.
 
chaossentry said:
I weigh myself religiously,I am someone whose body chemistry responds rapidly,either weight gain or weight loss. I do know that on a non-keto eating plan ignit3 and dcp really weren't doing much. I can say this,supernova does assist in problem areas of fat. I am not expecting a miracle,but I am someone whose body responds very quickly.
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Fair enough.

But just to be clear, we are talking about a 2 week period here right? Youve been taking DCP/Ignite only that long?
 
Nac said:
Fair enough.

But just to be clear, we are talking about a 2 week period here right? Youve been taking DCP/Ignite only that long?
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Yeah I will give it obviously another week,didn't spend this much just to play around. yes only dcp and ignite,next thursday will make two weeks. 3 times a week lifting,and 4 times of the week doing HIIT cardio on a treadmill doing about 20 mins....6-8 30sec spring cycles. On my non-lifting days obviously.

I can say this with whole hearedness. Gharm1ne works wonders if you're trying to build solid,fuller muscles. But ONLY on a non-keto diet with carbs involved. On Keto I am losing my fullness.
 
chaossentry said:
Yeah I will give it obviously another week,didn't spend this much just to play around. yes only dcp and ignite,next thursday will make two weeks. 3 times a week lifting,and 4 times of the week doing HIIT cardio on a treadmill doing about 20 mins....6-8 30sec spring cycles. On my non-lifting days obviously.

I can say this with whole hearedness. Gharm1ne works wonders if you're trying to build solid,fuller muscles. But ONLY on a non-keto diet with carbs involved. On Keto I am losing my fullness.
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How much of a caloric deficit are you in? (and hopefully this will be a result of using an app where you have already figured out what your maintenance is - ie. you do not gain or lose anything at that caloric intake - usually measured over a months time).

If you are in a deficit, you *defacto* lose tissue (hopefully fat). Basic laws of thermodynamics. You *may*, at your early stage of training (1 yr), lose fat and gain muscle at the same time (the holy grail that usually only very new trainees can pull off - enjoy) - so the scale may be a little slow. Which is why you should also be doing abdominal tape measurements and/or caliper measurements - are you?

1-2lbs of loss a week is what most people shoot for, as you can at least maintain muscle mass and still lose fat at that level. That amount is also hard to detect when you step on a scale everyday - you can drink a glass of water and gain a pound. That's why once a week weighing, at most, is usually recommended.

All these additional supplements, including Ephedrine, which actually no shjt works, as proven in numerous studies - only account for OUNCES when you are talking 1-2lbs a week. IMO, unfortunately, you really need to run one cut using very little, to seee what your body can do with just a deficit and maybe some black coffee - then for the next one, you can add something and see if your rate of loss is better (but don't go changing a ton of stuff the next time, obviously).

You mention you are in Keto - you using a blood ketone meter, or just the Stix? How many grams of F, P, and C are your current macros?
 
AdelV said:
Haha I have to along with my Aspire36, Slim Xtreme, MW Napalm, Hemorage etc

I have no idea what it's worth at auction, definitely have to list it soon.
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lol-aspire36...I was a tester for palo alto labs. they sent me some red liquid caps that were for going to be sold and some plain brown caps for testing...turns out the brown caps were accidently double dosed-wow!!!

best damned 'spiked' supplement ever, lol.
 
I would say Yohimbine HCL, Synephrine HCL, L-Carnitine L-Tartrate, Green Tea Extract (40% Polyphenols), Choline Bitartrate, Theobromine, Green coffee extract (50% Chlorogenic acid), L-Tyrosine, Caffeine and Berberine.

Bloody liver failure from the Sodium Usinate in Lipokinetix. It's an uncoupling agent like DNP but WAY... more dangerous!
 
ok, anyone remember the original VIPER from alri?
 
APS phenadrine (original red bottle) till they changed the formula. Found the new formula ineffective and threw it out. None the less a great company and their pre workout is insane !
 
Pharma-grade oxandrolone (Anavar) at 20 mg/daily with a SERM to prevent shutdown and to support cardiovascular health.

I have seen *astonishing* results over 12 weeks in reductions of fat mass while simultaneously preserving or adding muscle, even in a net calorie deficit, with zero significant side-effects.
 
Spurfy said:
Pharma-grade oxandrolone (Anavar) at 20 mg/daily with a SERM to prevent shutdown and to support cardiovascular health.

I have seen *astonishing* results over 12 weeks in reductions of fat mass while simultaneously preserving or adding muscle, even in a net calorie deficit, with zero significant side-effects.
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Steroids do burn fat but I don't think that's what everyone had in mind. Lol
 
Old-school twin lab ripped fuel with ephedra alkaloids was legit. Omega sports Triac, and Slim-Fx. All banned of course.
 
thebigt said:
ok, anyone remember the original VIPER from alri?
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For sure. Good stuff! ALRI kinda faded out over the years. Too bad.
 
unitas27 said:
For sure. Good stuff! ALRI kinda faded out over the years. Too bad.
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yeah, I bought a lot of alri stuff back in the day...I think they changed the name to alr industries under the hi-tech umbrella...author l. rea the founder passed away in 06 I think. he was a pioneer and wrote the definitive book on steroids for that time---he was my go to for formestane info.
 
A few years ago there was a supplement called leviathan, but I cant remember who made it. I responded to the original formula well but they changed it and I didnt respond as well.

Plus the original xenadrine was awesome.
 
bigrobbierob said:
A few years ago there was a supplement called leviathan, but I cant remember who made it. I responded to the original formula well but they changed it and I didnt respond as well.

Plus the original xenadrine was awesome.
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palo alto labs...PAL
 
A while back I tried Thermo Detonator by Grenade and it worked really well. I took a 2 month course but after that second month, it seemed to have stopped working so I quit.
 
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