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Q & A for ASSASS1NATE

xtyler said:
Just don't be lazy and read it more carefully LOL, GNO made a great job there, it's clear and exhaustive. I won't break it down in 35 PM's like usual :Flush::Flush:

Exactly.



Yeah ONLY three months a time :stupid::saw:
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lolllll I got it bro will be doing that 3 month at a time, that stack for assassinate and sup3r shred for 40 bucks is a killer deal.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
This for sure, although specifically with Ignit3 i would not recommend more than 1 cap of assasinate when you dose Ignit3. Because it already contains quite a potent ampk activator in it.
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I know you can always have to much of a good thing but what would be the specific downside to too much ampk activation? I am still trying to learn about this "pathway." Thank you, cool looking product!
 
BCseacow83 said:
I know you can always have to much of a good thing but what would be the specific downside to too much ampk activation? I am still trying to learn about this "pathway." Thank you, cool looking product!
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AFAIK, hinders mTor activation
 
BCseacow83 said:
I know you can always have to much of a good thing but what would be the specific downside to too much ampk activation? I am still trying to learn about this "pathway." Thank you, cool looking product!
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Good question, while being a good thing is going to be relevant to the individual and their goals, at the highest level AMPk is the master regulator of catabolic pathways in cells (switches from ATP consumption to ATP production) so if we look at the balance between anabolism and catabolism as seesaw, with Mtor (ATP consumption) on one side and AMPK on the other, for our goals we don't want the balance going to far to the energy production side as it will ultimately hinder protein synthesis.

Now thats a really basically overview of AMPK because its physiological effects are soo diverse and is actually broken down into 3 subunits and around 12 isoforms of those subunits, which all exert different effects in different organs in the body. For instance the AMPK alpha2 isoform which is largely expressed in skeletal muscle in response to exercise exerts the MOA of energy production while not blunting Mtor.
 
Thank you, just ordered the bogo so ready to rock, reallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy need a stim break and a wedding in october so here we go.
 
Alex281 said:
Bloodshred is a more preferred over Ignit3 when you're planning a cycle with Assass1nate ?
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both will work well, I would say more personal preference. Unless you want rauw free than BS WAR is what you need.
 
Is there any difference in the olive leaf extract with Assass1nate vs Ign1te, being standardized for oleuropein vs hydroxytyrosol?
 
Tylerclee said:
Is there any difference in the olive leaf extract with Assass1nate vs Ign1te, being standardized for oleuropein vs hydroxytyrosol?
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of course there is a difference...

The intent was to target the CB1 receptor (excerpt from the write-up).
ASSASS1NATE contains an olive leaf extract with a relatively high percentage of Hydroxytyrosol (20%) because recent research has found it can inhibit the Cannabinoid 1 (CB1) receptor
 
GNO said:
of course there is a difference...

The intent was to target the CB1 receptor (excerpt from the write-up).
ASSASS1NATE contains an olive leaf extract with a relatively high percentage of Hydroxytyrosol (20%) because recent research has found it can inhibit the Cannabinoid 1 (CB1) receptor
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Awesome, I will read over that write up again when I have a few hours to spare lol
 
Could this product be used during calorie maintenance/slow bulk to aid body recomposition? Like BRITE from evomuse e.g.
 
Pec.Major said:
Could this product be used during calorie maintenance/slow bulk to aid body recomposition? Like BRITE from evomuse e.g.
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Absolutely! Be sure to let us know your results...
 
This looks like a really unique approach...Including a lot of things I've been wondering about for appetite suppression...Gonna go read the write up now. Any tie in with alpha-MSH?
 
Planning on running this with BS Raw.

For morning fasted workouts, is it better to take Assass1nate with BS pre workout, or take the Assass1nate post workout just before largish carb laden post workout meal?

Thanks!
 
JDybya said:
Planning on running this with BS Raw.

For morning fasted workouts, is it better to take Assass1nate with BS pre workout, or take the Assass1nate post workout just before largish carb laden post workout meal?

Thanks!
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I am by no means an expert but I would say Bloodshr3d fasted and before work out will be better. Then Assess1nate before meals and if only doing 2 caps a day before the largest carb meal of the day.
 
rodherm said:
I am by no means an expert but I would say Bloodshr3d fasted and before work out will be better. Then Assess1nate before meals and if only doing 2 caps a day before the largest carb meal of the day.
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Thanks for the input. I know bs fasted pre - only way to roll. Just wondering if there's any advantage to activating pathways with assass1nate pre as opposed to post workout (when body will all ready be primed to utilize the carb goodness).
 
JDybya said:
Thanks for the input. I know bs fasted pre - only way to roll. Just wondering if there's any advantage to activating pathways with assass1nate pre as opposed to post workout (when body will all ready be primed to utilize the carb goodness).
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I would advise post workout before a higher carb meal, you will benefit from the nutrient intake far more than any incremental cal burning during your workout.. If you are on a low carb diet then pre would be helpful.
 
GNO said:
Absolutely! Or Ignit3.

Personally I'd run Assassinate + BS + Super-shred + Super-7 if I wanted to trim a few ;)
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I have been cutting for a few months and I am coming down to the tail end of things here. I have been using BS Raw for a month or so, and love it. Just got super shred and super 7 and I am now thinking about adding Assassinate as well to go all out and maximize it. How would you recommend dosing everything? Currently do BS Raw and 2 caps SS 1 cap s7 pre fasted cardio, and then take s7 later. Is there a better time to take s7? As far as assassinate is concerned, any issues taking 2 caps w/ pre workout meal and other 2 caps w/ another carb meal? Thanks!
 
Would there be any problem stacking Assass1nate with evomuse's DCP? Would that result in too much ampk activation or something?
 
Beta said:
Would there be any problem stacking Assass1nate with evomuse's DCP? Would that result in too much ampk activation or something?
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There isn't much overlap between the two formulas, should be fine but tinker the timing and dosages of both based on trial and error. DCP hits the ppar's hard, which Assassinate also targets but that's not its main MOA. Happy shredding
 
How's about stacking with berberine, or something like slinmax? Especially on big carb refeeds....

Any foreseeable issues?
 
JDybya said:
How's about stacking with berberine, or something like slinmax? Especially on big carb refeeds....

Any foreseeable issues?
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We left Berberine out for a reason...and Assass1nate doesn't really need any kind of extra support.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
There isn't much overlap between the two formulas, should be fine but tinker the timing and dosages of both based on trial and error. DCP hits the ppar's hard, which Assassinate also targets but that's not its main MOA. Happy shredding
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Is this a really potent GDA? When I look at this formula I see some unique appetite suppression pathways more than anything - novel approaches. Is it a strong suppressant? What am I missing?
 
I read somewhere that if stacking bloodshr3d raw and assass1nate you shouldn't do full doses and should only take 2 caps of Assass1nate due to overlap in some ingredients. Is this true?
 
Beta said:
I read somewhere that if stacking bloodshr3d raw and assass1nate you shouldn't do full doses and should only take 2 caps of Assass1nate due to overlap in some ingredients. Is this true?
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You can fully dose Bloodshr3d and Assass1nate. Go with 2x2 caps Assass1nate (prior to meals to take advantage of the GDA benefits), and Bloodshr3d is 1-2 scoops to tolerance, with a maximum of 3 scoops per day (dose away from meals for maximum efficacy due to rauwolscine).
 
How strong is the GDA aspect of this? I run GDAs pretty much year round and wondering if I should stop those while using this.
 
I'm on day 4 of assassinate and SS, the appetite control is pretty astounding. I'm hoping to lose about 6 more pounds to top off my cut.
 
Beta said:
I read somewhere that if stacking bloodshr3d raw and assass1nate you shouldn't do full doses and should only take 2 caps of Assass1nate due to overlap in some ingredients. Is this true?
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The cutting back to 2 caps of Assass1nate was the recommendation when stacking with IGNIT3.
 
GreenMachineX said:
How strong is the GDA aspect of this? I run GDAs pretty much year round and wondering if I should stop those while using this.
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Of course it is your choice but our R&D team designed it to provide all the nutrient uptake you need
 
Sonis this ok? BS in the morning before breakfast, assasinate before lunch and dinner and super shred pre workout?
 
why super shred (only) pre workout? wouldn't it be better to take it along with assasinate before meals?
 
Is necessary to have carbs in the meals post ass1nate?
1- What about timing and dosing in keto or very low carb diet?
2- And if carbs are taken only periworkout?
 
Feiwong said:
Is necessary to have carbs in the meals post ass1nate?
1- What about timing and dosing in keto or very low carb diet?
2- And if carbs are taken only periworkout?
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The reason we suggest taking it prior to a carb-heavy meal is to take advantage of the GDA properties. But you could take it preworkout too, doubt you'll have the blood sugar issues that sometimes occur with some GDAs (though if for some reason you do have issues with this, change timing in the future).
If you're keto, you could always use it preworkout. Same if you eat carbs only periworkout, although obviously working out does a good job of nutrient partitioning on its own. Remember this formula is much more versatile than just GDA, so even if you aren't taking full advantage of that particular property, you're still getting a potent product that hits several other pathways.
 
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