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Middle Age Is A Great Excuse To Blast And Cruise

Benched 275 x 4 top set and lost fifth rep. Had to roll the bar off myself.

1RM projected to be 300 right now. Meh.

I did dips sets of six at the end for upper push volume: top set +90 x 6. Two weeks ago I was shaky with 45 lbs.

Two weeks left on sdrol and I don't want to wind up only back where I was (320 bench max).

Should I double the dose?
 
Hyde said:
Hell no you shouldn't. Give the drugs time to work. It's a marathon anyway
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Heh heh, okay.

I just hate that it's taking two months to get back to where I was when I was only off for a little over a month. Especially when I'm on what's supposed to be a very powerful oral AAS.

380 x 2 back squat today followed by a couple sets of six with 65 lbs on the chin up. Lastly I worked up the doubles in the conventional deadlift (no belt) with 465. I'm about 40 lbs short of my best deadlift and squat. Chins are about the same. Bench is 20 lbs off.
 
SelfMedic said:
Heh heh, okay.

I just hate that it's taking two months to get back to where I was when I was only off for a little over a month. Especially when I'm on what's supposed to be a very powerful oral AAS.

380 x 2 back squat today followed by a couple sets of six with 65 lbs on the chin up. Lastly I worked up the doubles in the conventional deadlift (no belt) with 465. I'm about 40 lbs short of my best deadlift and squat. Chins are about the same. Bench is 20 lbs off.
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I'll be off for 6 months post op so I feel you on wanting to get back faster
 
SelfMedic said:
Heh heh, okay.

I just hate that it's taking two months to get back to where I was when I was only off for a little over a month. Especially when I'm on what's supposed to be a very powerful oral AAS.

380 x 2 back squat today followed by a couple sets of six with 65 lbs on the chin up. Lastly I worked up the doubles in the conventional deadlift (no belt) with 465. I'm about 40 lbs short of my best deadlift and squat. Chins are about the same. Bench is 20 lbs off.
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I understand. But you had some recent knee setbacks that also forced you to detrain your lower body some. It sucks, and you wouldn't have picked it certainly, but it is what it is right?

I spent a year not improving my deadlift while my discs slowly gave up, and THEN I had to start the process of getting things healthy again. So it's been 2 years to finally truly be surpassing my old bests. But I'm on the way!
 
I don't know for sure if something is kicking in (like the EQ), but I am feeling more healed than I have in months...maybe years. I am actually running and jumping this week. I been testing my vertical and despite being out of practice, old, and generally creaky, I managed to hit a 24" standing vertical after a couple warm ups. Appetite is up too.

I know it is supposed to take 10 weeks for the undecylenate esther to start letting the Boldenone be felt. But I think the effects are starting to tiptoe in.

Let's just hope that the Superdrol will make itself felt on day 13 and 14 when I go in to bench and squat. Lord, I would love to be able to hit a deep back squat double with 405 on Sunday!

Next session is tomorrow when I hit standing press, some pull ups and go for volume on incline dumbbell presses. Not really expecting any miracles here, but would be nice if I could press 165 a couple times and get sets of ten on the pull ups.
 
Ended up not going. Too busy. Midweek os tough to do which is why I put the "throwaway" day on Wednesday. I may do it tomorrow and switch around the bench day and squat day this weekend.

Also libido has taken a dive. If this test gel doesn't work, I'm not sure what to do next.
 
Day 11 of Superdrol and my presses were (wait for it) unimPRESSive.

Got a hard double with 145, then an easier one and finished with a triple with that weight. My best 45 days ago was 175 for a double.

Pull ups were okay (like Chin ups were). I strapped on a 45-lb plate and got three full range (full shoulder and elbow extension to full chin over the bar) sets of five.

I have this weekend squat and bench and next weekend of the same. Hoping to see some of that magic from the Sdrol by then.
 
SelfMedic said:
Day 11 of Superdrol and my presses were (wait for it) unimPRESSive.

Got a hard double with 145, then an easier one and finished with a triple with that weight. My best 45 days ago was 175 for a double.

Pull ups were okay (like Chin ups were). I strapped on a 45-lb plate and got three full range (full shoulder and elbow extension to full chin over the bar) sets of five.

I have this weekend squat and bench and next weekend of the same. Hoping to see some of that magic from the Sdrol by then.
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I hope it ain't fake man. The pumps should be obnoxious by now...

If you need a plan B I can direct you to a very potent oral alternative that will likely leave you shocked.
 
As of yesterday I have doubled the sdrol dose to 40 mg ed. I may have underdosed bunkem on my hands so I'm just going to hope 40 mg will do something as I finish the bottle.

I'd cut the Aromasin 12.5 mg tabs to eod, but within a week I found myself getting moody and sad. Frequency is back up to ed.

I did my first administration of transdermal test to my scrotum last night. 50 mg. I ended up "taking care of things" twice that day and had vivid sex dreams that night with strong erections. But I'm still not interested in actual sex. I just did 25 mg this morning and will stay there for a few days and hope.

Also did my usual eod 75 mg test E, 120 mg Mast P, and 18p mg EQ this morning. All these long esters! I have been waking up at 194 lbs and getting as high as 197.

My strength gains are still in the muscle memory range, nothing yet indicating that I'm blasting.

Heading in to squat and chin today. Hoping to touch 405 with just thin wraps for a single or two and then chin up with 80 lbs for five.
 
Please help me understand...

I was not able to squat more than 225 today.

A moderate dose of prami laid me low last night. I couldn't eat and slept from 7 pm till 9 am.

Could this really be limiting me so much today? I squatted 380 x 2 last week and pulled 465 x 2.
 
SelfMedic said:
Please help me understand...

I was not able to squat more than 225 today.

A moderate dose of prami laid me low last night. I couldn't eat and slept from 7 pm till 9 am.

Could this really be limiting me so much today? I squated 380 x 2 last week and pulled 465 x 2.
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Well, the time I got "Prami flu" as I refer to it I tried to bump from .3 to .5 after only 2 days, bypassing .4, and it just wrecked me on Easter that day as I was taking it in the morning. Fever and no appetite and dead tired w cold sweats. Only take it right before bed is what I learned to minimize sides.

I couldn't sit at the table to eat even, so squatting 50% seems about right.
 
Hyde said:
Well, the time I got "Prami flu" as I refer to it I tried to bump from .3 to .5 after only 2 days, bypassing .4, and it just wrecked me on Easter that day as I was taking it in the morning. Fever and no appetite and dead tired w cold sweats. Only take it right before bed is what I learned to minimize sides.

I couldn't sit at the table to eat even, so squatting 50% seems about right.
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Damn Prami ain't no joke from what I've been researching. I was advised to take it at low doses and work your way up slowly.
 
I just don't take it. If what I'm taking necessitates that I use something as horrid as Prami, then I stop taking it. That simple.

You don't need prami woth 19-nor's anyways unless you're running really high doses of the stuff but generally speaking, I find that keeping thyroid healthy & estrogen low and controlled and I won't need to jack with Prami. There are other ways to lower /control your prolactin levels. It's the progesterone activity that causes most of the problems anyways...
 
fueledpassion said:
I just don't take it. If what I'm taking necessitates that I use something as horrid as Prami, then I stop taking it. That simple.

You don't need prami woth 19-nor's anyways unless you're running really high doses of the stuff but generally speaking, I find that keeping thyroid healthy & estrogen low and controlled and I won't need to jack with Prami. There are other ways to lower /control your prolactin levels. It's the progesterone activity that causes most of the problems anyways...
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Weren't you speculating like .25mcg of T3 every other or third day would be sufficient likely to keep thyroid up on tren?
 
I had a rough week and gave in to the temptation to indulge in some stimulants. Revved up my system and wrecked my appetite for three days. My weight went under 190 lbs. I've been stuffing myself and still having a hard time holding on to anything over 192.

I've decided to up my test E dosage to 75 mg ed. I've been shying away from higher doses because my libido has been my main concern. But now I think my main problem with libido is anhedonia due to prior abuse of recreational dopamine-affecting stimulants. I am counting on transdermal test to help libido and so I'm going to play with higher doses of IM test with an ester.

I got my bench back to 275 for four before my squat fell apart and 225 was a max on squat day. Today just two weeks after that bench I only managed 245 for a couple of triples.

I'm sick of my strength failing to improve and just as often mysteriously slipping backward. I have a boatload of test E lying around and I need to dose that higher. Also I am missing the strength that I was building while on tren.

I'm going to keep going with the EQ and the Mast E on top of the test E, but I need to bring tren back into the mix. Just a few months ago I was on the cusp of repping 315 on the bench -- at under 195!. I miss that.
 
Are you still on superdrol? I think yours could be bunk if so. You should not be losing a bunch of weight or strength on superdrol, even with a couple fatburners or coffees.
 
Hyde said:
If you were cutting I wouldn't judge you so harshly, but I think you obviously realize those aren't going to help you gain weight or strength lol
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Ha! No excuse for me. It was a dumb move.

My squat has completely unwritten itself. I struggled with 225 last week and thought it was just "prami flu"...but this week 275 for a few singles was the best I could do.

The sdrol seems to have been bunk and now I'm struggling with weights that should be my second warm up set.

I have upped my test E dose to 150 mg ed. I am getting dbol and then some tren. Everything is from a new source.
 
I realize that this isn't your approach at all, but a few days of a few units of slin at evey meal and a higher than normal carb intake will easily put you back on track with weight gain, fullness and strength. Tren needs to be the last resort if you're just after strength.

A well-patterned day of good dieting makes about a 4-7% difference on my lifts as compared to being malnutritioned and undereating.
 
But my squat went from 405 for reps in January to a struggle with 225 in February. That seems deeper than poor eating...
 
That's a gram of test, plus all your eq and mast, plus the oral. Not crazy, but I wanna point out you're not a spring chicken and this isn't paying you anything so I would watch your health markers doing this at least
 
Hyde said:
That's a gram of test, plus all your eq and mast, plus the oral. Not crazy, but I wanna point out you're not a spring chicken and this isn't paying you anything so I would watch your health markers doing this at least
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Not to be too maudlin, but the best parts of my life are behind me and I'm not seeking a longer life at this point. Increasing my lifts is literally the only thing that gives me any joy anymore.
 
Hyde said:
That's a gram of test, plus all your eq and mast, plus the oral. Not crazy, but I wanna point out you're not a spring chicken and this isn't paying you anything so I would watch your health markers doing this at least
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Bingo. I'd rather just run something less risky in terms of heart health. There are other ways to get big and strong, albeit, not quite as fun.
 
SelfMedic said:
Not to be too maudlin, but the best parts of my life are behind me and I'm not seeking a longer life at this point. Increasing my lifts is literally the only thing that gives me any joy anymore.
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I'm sorry to hear this man. Every one deserves a better reason to live than that alone. If you live in Texas area, come hang out and I can show you lots more things to be happy about, bud.
 
SelfMedic said:
But my squat went from 405 for reps in January to a struggle with 225 in February. That seems deeper than poor eating...
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Well, that is a huge difference but I'm willing to bet it still has more to do with diet and sleep. Lack of sleep can destroy training potential, for instance.

You could have larger issues and if the strength doesn't come back to something expected, I would get checked out by a doctor. Keep an eye on atrophy.
 
My new source doesn't truck with hCG so it looks like I will have to try clomid.

I was going to use it on cycle and maybe even use it as part of my cruise. Thoughts are welcome.

Weight hovering over 193 in the morning. I only have time and energy to train on weekends. Saturday is bench and row; Sunday is press, squat, chin. So the weekend is when I find out if things are working.
 
Clomid may help fill the boys out some, maybe. Worth a shot I suppose but don't wait for a miracle on all that gear.

That is a terrible training schedule, but at your age it will be worth more, and the drugs are more important anyway easily. It can work. If you could do anything else, Wednesday would be the day obviously.
 
Hyde said:
Clomid may help fill the boys out some, maybe. Worth a shot I suppose but don't wait for a miracle on all that gear.

That is a terrible training schedule, but at your age it will be worth more, and the drugs are more important anyway easily. It can work. If you could do anything else, Wednesday would be the day obviously.
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A lot of of the powerlifting greats trained the bench and squay once per week while on a couple grams of gear.

Granted, a few days rest betweem would be better, but it just can't be right now.
 
Jeez. One day of light eating and I'm down from what I thought was my floor of 193 to 190. I know it takes a few weeks for the test e to kick in, but this is demoralizing.

I think what I'm experiencing is the fruition of ****ing with low doses for the last couple of months. I've only started blasting test e these last couple of weeks.

I was 125 lbs at 21 and got to 180 lbs at 35. Just before my 40th I was unable to get above 175. That's when I started with SARMs and got to 198.

With moderate doses of test, tren, and hCG I got to squat 405 for reps at 193, pull 500 for a double, both without a belt, and bench 320 for a single.

But now after keeping my test dose under 150 mg per week and dropping tren entirely I am barely holding on to size and strength above my natural limit at this age of approximately 175 lbs.

So I'm hoping to see some real traction from 150 mg ed of test e in a couple of weeks. The injectable dbol kicker is on its way.Tren makes me stronger than anything else does, but it kills my appetite so I'm holding off on adding it till I'm done with dbol. I hope to get solidly over 200 lbs after a few weeks of the kicker.
 
Struggling tonight to match last week's bench, and it hit me...

These are the same signs of hyperthyroid I had 18 months ago!

Doc recently cut my dose a bit, but I may need to go back up halfway.
 
I wonder if that overactive thyroid is also hurting your weight gain as well.

Nick Best is ~50 I believe and he has a squat-based session Wednesday, presses Saturday and pulls Sunday. That to me seems like a pretty great way to go on a limited schedule. I train wed/fri/sun currently with my schedule, but that would be my next choice.
 
Hyde said:
I wonder if that overactive thyroid is also hurting your weight gain as well.

Nick Best is ~50 I believe and he has a squat-based session Wednesday, presses Saturday and pulls Sunday. That to me seems like a pretty great way to go on a limited schedule. I train wed/fri/sun currently with my schedule, but that would be my next choice.
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I went from 200 to 150 in a month last year when this first happened in winter 2016. I couldn't lift anything over 20 lbs without trembling and getting winded.

I used the A-B schedule to get my bench up to 315 and my high bar wraps no belt squat to 425 x 3.

But I have decided to try a three day schedule again. I started last night with a bench-Incline-dip-row session. While I'm decent on bench and dip, the incline press revealed a real weakness in my pecs, particularly my right one.

Plus I was struggling to get sets of 135 on the incline despite the ability to rep 225 on the flat and do full range dips with 90 lbs added.

I'm considering making incline presses my main pressing movement. Even when I had a solid 315 bench, I couldn't get 225 on the incline. That tells me that the flat bench isn't quite the keystone movement I thought it was.

By comparison the high bar back squat improves all my other lower body movements: front squat, conventional deadlift, vertical leap... Obviously I have to practice the other movements to maximize them, but the back squat clearly drags the minimums to higher levels.

The bench improves my dip, and to a lesser degree my standing presss, but something is still missing. So I'm going to focus more on the incline for a while...

Flat Bench (heavy)
Incline Bench
Dumbell Row
Unilateral Row Machine

Back Squat with some paused reps
Front Squat
45-degree Leg Press
Deadlift heavy alternated with SLDL
Weighted Pull Up

Incline Press
Standing Press
Weighted Chin
Rope handle Upright Row

Obviously I'm looking to hit some perceived weak points and use machines to get more volume. That Rope handle upright row is my main vanity movement; my shoulders get the most attention from women so I really want to fill them out more.
 
I worked up to a very hard 345 max on the back squat tonight. No belt of course, but I wore very loose wraps for the entire session because my knees felt crunchy today.

This was after I got stuck at 225 and it felt a little too hard for my liking. I did a few singles with 225 before getting four reps and then continuing on to 275 for two and a decent 315 for a single.

345 is still 60 pounds below my best no belt high bar squat without tight wraps (405 is my best with nothing at all on my knees), but at least I'm not getting stuck at 225 anymore.

I burned out on the 345 single so I did a bunch of sets of leg press. Worked up to four plates a side for ten and did these thighs to chest (squat shoes help me get great depth without risking my lower back).

I only weigh 190 still so I'm still slowing losing weight. I'm not panicked anymore, however, because I managed to add 70 lbs to my squat from last week. I'm at least back on my way up from that horrible nadir.
 
Injectable dbol arrived. Added 25 mg to my 150 mg test E. Will do this daily for six weems before swapping dbol for tren E.

Did incline bench first and did doubles from 135 to 195 in 10-lb jumps. Then 155 x 5 twice. I also added leg press to my squats a few days ago. The leg press made my knees feel better. I think these are going to add something that squats leave out.

Full range chins with 80 lbs. I got five then four which is roughly a match for my best ever 80 for five while weighing a couple more pounds.

I'm benching again in three days. I bloody better get 255 for reps. I'm taking 1000 mg test E per week with 175 mg of dbol. I gained 20 lbs on SARMs alone fer fack's sake. And I got to 315 bench and 425 squat on a much more moderate dose of test last year.
 
FINALLY seeing solid improvement. Worked up to 255 bench for two triples. On the third rep of the second set, I felt things turn "on". Could have gotten one more, but wanted to test dips. Like bench, dip is 20 lbs off my pre-wobble session; only 70 lbs x 5 tonight.

I got volume on the seated chest press and then on the seated row which came after heavy DB rows.

This is only day four of injecting 25 mg dbol. It hasn't had a chance to work much, but I am 193-195 this week. Tempted to up it like I did with test.

If I don't hit at least 365 on the squat on Saturday, I'll probably up the dose to 50 mg ed.
 
Damn it. 191 this morning. I look pumped still up top and my quads are still looking full from that volume session a week ago. But morning weigh-in is back down at 191 after after being at 193 for a few days.
 
2lbs could be water fluctuations from varying sodium and carbohydrate intake. Don't up the drugs, have a pizza. What I eat the day before can greatly vary my lifting the following morning.
 
Squat 345 single was way easier (8 instead of 10), but failed 365.

Went to get a meal and warmed up to 315 again. Got one double and was wiped out. Couldn't even get one chin with 90 lbs after that.

Four months ago, 315 for paused reps was warmup.
 
I'm just wondering what's going on. Like with your gear, your thyroid levels, your diet and rest and stress levels. I can't know, but these are all things to examine.
 
Hyde said:
I'm just wondering what's going on. Like with your gear, your thyroid levels, your diet and rest and stress levels. I can't know, but these are all things to examine.
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I think it's just a matter of my poor choices erasing my gains from my last cycle.

I hit 315 bench, 405 no no no Olympic squat, and 500 x 2 beltless deadlift in October and November when I was dosing 50 mg test and tren E each per day.

Then I went low dose...then I binged recreational stims and erased my gains even more.

On an honest cycle again: 150 mg test E daily as of two weeks ago; added injectable dbol five days ago to kickstart cycle. If I don't see my squat and bench back over 405 and 315 by the end of March, I will worry.
 
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