So today I finally got a chance to try pump dirt out with some pre workout carbs (50g from Gatorade powder) for a pull hypertrophy day.
I took before and after for reference as well. Left is before, right after
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Have to say that dumping the powder straight into your mouth and trying to wash it down is not so nice. All the little pieces get in your teeth and the flavor sticks even longer... my recommendation echos
The Solution in that it's best to mix with something flavored.
Effects: today all sets were 8+ reps for compounds and 15 for isolations with a drop set at the end of each final set as well as an fst 7 finisher at the end of the workout. The pump was good, but didn't seem anything out of the ordinary for a good hyper workout for me. I don't get great pumps usually so any benefit is a bonus however the slight bump to me doesn't justify the price, nor the addition of 200cals worth of "wasted" (not eaten) calories in the form of the carb powder.
The pics do show decent improvement and pump from start to finish but IMO not the dramatic results that I see from some other gda type products, especially with supplementary carbs added specifically pre workout with it. For me, this is on par with my 2nd tier gda's in that it does have some effect, but cost and limited/optimal usage (best with extra carbs) take it down a notch. I can get a similar pump effect from solo agmatine which makes that far more cost effective and useful for me.
Overall I would give this a 6/10 as I see it as a good but not great product. I actually think I liked it much better with my meals as a gda than pre workout so I'll probably use it more in that aspect going forward.
Thanks to
ENragedchris for giving me a chance to try this out and being patient with my variety of trials.