Understand 100%. Good luck with your run.I was trying to find something similar to buy right away instead of waiting for mass max to come out. No intention to discredit Performax.
Understand 100%. Good luck with your run.I was trying to find something similar to buy right away instead of waiting for mass max to come out. No intention to discredit Performax.
Really looking forward to your feedback, think your really like this if you have enjoyed Ecdy in the past, I feel like we have really perfected Ecdy with this specific extract and the combination with permeation enhancement.Count me in. I've had success with Ecdy/laxo in the past and this is the best loooking profile I've seen thus far on a product of the category IMO. Awesome to see a great company giving real RCE extracts a go
From our research its likely 80% is too high as its minimizing the presence of other active ecdysteroids like Polypodyne B. Also be combining Ecdysterone with a permeation enhancer the effects of Ecdy should be significantly stronger!I am very interested too. Turkesterone treats me well and I currently have nice results with RCE standardized to 80% edcy. But I run it at about a gram/day.
Pretty interested how the lower dose of RCE, epi, etc. would work. I will definitely try it out as I am ecdy believer (at least for my type of goals, workout plan, etc.)
Thanks for the support!another great looking natty anabolic option
Late December, so few weeks.Any mention of release?
It's late December...... ?Late December, so few weeks.
Yeah....where is it? Where is it?It's late December...... ?
It was being capped a few days ago. It should be out sometime this coming week. We might do an intro sale via directly from our site first. We will post in here.It's late December...... ��
Awesome. I tried to send you a PM, wouldn't work thoIt was being capped a few days ago. It should be out sometime this coming week. We might do an intro sale via directly from our site first. We will post in here.
Drove up to Hillside Manor sometime after two a.m.It's late December...... ?
AdelV I just cleared my PMs. Try nowAwesome. I tried to send you a PM, wouldn't work tho
Coupon code that was in the email isn't twerking for me.Launching tomorrow, sign up for our news letter for an amazing intro sale!
I just noticed that as well. Sorry for inconvenience, we'll get it fixed shortly.Coupon code that was in the email isn't twerking for me.
Aint for me neither.Coupon code that was in the email isn't twerking for me.
Should not worry at allThe researchers suspect that methyl palmitate and methyl oleate stimulate the production of DHEA in the adrenal glands. This hormone can then be converted into testosterone.
http://www.ergo-log.com/drone-milk-testosterone-anabolic.html
So should users be wary of possible estrogen increases that typically accompany dhea boosting ingredients?
All caps worked.I just noticed that as well. Sorry for inconvenience, we'll get it fixed shortly.
Awesome, looking forward to your feedback.Picked up my 2 bottles.
Looking forward to trying!
Why should we not worry?Should not worry at all
I think he was going that I won't increase dhea that much do e2 rise would t be much and also people are WWWAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY to concerned with estrogen. It is not your enemy.Why should we not worry?
Are you saying for definite that estrogen won't rise as the dhea converts in testosterone?
Just fishing for info
Didn't say it was my enemy was just asking why he sounded so certain telling op not to worry. Thanks anyway ?I think he was going that I won't increase dhea that much do e2 rise would t be much and also people are WWWAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY to concerned with estrogen. It is not your enemy.
And that's the active in letrone which I run YearYea I would not worry about any potential to raise estrogen, it would have to be a significant increase in DHEA to have any noticeable effect. Additionally Atractylodes may have some anti-aromotase properties as well, so even if there was a slight increase in DHEA it would likely be controlled by Atractylodes.
Its actually slightly different but does contain atractylenolides which is the constituent responsible for AI in both extracts however our extract focus is more on atractylodin. So there is definitely some anti-aromatase effect but likely not as significant as in letrone as the extracts are geared towards different purposes.And that's the active in letrone which I run Year
Round for trt/estrogen management purposes sooo alright ��
Well people shouldn't be using ais unless the are on roids that aromatize or have blood work proving high e honestlyDidn't say it was my enemy was just asking why he sounded so certain telling op not to worry. Thanks anyway ?
Quite true but as you know some people will still hop on an ai just to dry out a bit and lean up when they aren't even on cycleWell people shouldn't be using ais unless the are on roids that aromatize or have blood work proving high e honestly
Lean up and dry out a bit = good diet and not using AIQuite true but as you know some people will still hop on an ai just to dry out a bit and lean up when they aren't even on cycle
For clarification from the other thread on MassMax XT.I posted on another massmax thread about the source genus RCE being the best ecdysterone genus but the active used is 20H
which im told is poor, shame cos I was looking forward to this ?
Just trying to keep both threads updated with correct info.I respectfully disagree, we have been doing tons of research on this material for nearly a year now and the major point is Full Spectrum RCE outperforms any 1 isolated compound and the research is very clear on this, so when he states we extracted the wrong ecdysterone, I find this incorrect as a full spectrum will always be superior. All Ecdysterones are present in this extract, however for quality and consistency purposes we did a small standardization to 20-HE which is clearly the most active ecdysterone. It was important to have a full spectrum because of other constituents in the material including nitrogen-bearing alkaloids, larger triterpenes, etc So again I disagree that we should be standerdizing for some different compound when the real point is full spectrum.
Futhermore when he says 20-h is just a bust orally etc. he is speaking to pure 20-h which this is not, and again in research it has shown the full spectrum to be superior to anyone individual compound, which could be due to 20-HE as a pure compound having poor bioavailbility. Lastly, Ecdysterone is a BCS class III compoud meaning it has high solubility and low permeation. We included a very effective intenstinal permeation enhancer to overcome this downfall leading to significant increase in bioavailablity of all ecdysterones.
I would agree with him if we were talking about a pure 20-HE extract, which is why so many ecdy products have failed. However this is completely different and the goal here is to provide a full spectrum of ecdysterones with a small standardization to one for consistency and quality purposes. Pair this superior extract with enhanced permeation, which is likely a huge limiting factor for the effectivness of ecdy, and you have an incredibly quality product.
Rhaponticum/Leuzea is far from just 20-HE. It is the complex of MANY ecdysteroids such as (cyasterone,ponasterone ,amarasterone A crustecdysone, polypodin B++++)which makes synergy effect.I posted on another massmax thread about the source genus RCE being the best ecdysterone genus but the active used is 20H
which im told is poor, shame cos I was looking forward to this ��
Agreed 100%. Many people don't realize that estrogen has a key role in libido. Sometimes when I'm on a supplement that claims to control estrogen, my libido will suffer. Not always though. Product dependentWell people shouldn't be using ais unless the are on roids that aromatize or have blood work proving high e honestly
I use clomid bursts for trt so I do get estrogen spikesAgreed 100%. Many people don't realize that estrogen has a key role in libido. Sometimes when I'm on a supplement that claims to control estrogen, my libido will suffer. Not always though. Product dependent
No need to stack with anything. It already has multiple ingredients.Finishing up a bulk and seems like this might be good for general recovery and muscle maintenance on maintenance calories for a month before moving into slight deficit.
Possibly stacked with a td laxo product?
Thoughts?
I would run it solo first so you can see how it works by itself. From the beta testers we had, it seems like it would be fine as a standalone for your goals.Finishing up a bulk and seems like this might be good for general recovery and muscle maintenance on maintenance calories for a month before moving into slight deficit.
Possibly stacked with a td laxo product?
Thoughts?
Agreed. Always best to try a new product as a standalone.I would run it solo first so you can see how it works by itself. From the beta testers we had, it seems like it would be fine as a standalone for your goals.
Should be right on home page at Performaxlabs.comWhere do I sign up for email? I thought I did, but haven't received an email.
International shipping isn't working. It says no available options to Australia.Should be right on home page at Performaxlabs.com
Code is MASS40, for 40% off MassMax XT.
Think you're the third person to mention that, must be just for the yanksInternational shipping isn't working. It says no available options to Australia.
Any feedback from the company in relation?Think you're the third person to mention that, must be just for the yanks
I'll check into it. I know for the intro sale there was a limited number of countries we could ship to.Any feedback from the company in relation?