The New Product Release Thread

Im probably going to be on an island with this opinion, but I was completely underwhelmed and disappointed with the Quest Blueberry muffin bar. I found it dry, chalky, and the flavor to be weak.

The only thing I can hope is that the case got hot or something and was a one off, because everyone else has been raving about them. Perhaps I just had too high of expectations.

Anyone else tried these things yet?
 
Darkhorse192 said:
Im probably going to be on an island with this opinion, but I was completely underwhelmed and disappointed with the Quest Blueberry muffin bar. I found it dry, chalky, and the flavor to be weak.

The only thing I can hope is that the case got hot or something and was a one off, because everyone else has been raving about them. Perhaps I just had too high of expectations.

Anyone else tried these things yet?
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Mine was far from both. Don't know if you got a bad bar or what. Mine tastes like bluberry poptart LLN had similar feedback as well and loved it

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The first time I had a banana nut bar, mine was very chalky and lacked total flavor. I tried another one a few weeks later and it was night and day in flavor and texture. Possibly a bad bar.
 
Darkhorse192 said:
Im probably going to be on an island with this opinion, but I was completely underwhelmed and disappointed with the Quest Blueberry muffin bar. I found it dry, chalky, and the flavor to be weak.

The only thing I can hope is that the case got hot or something and was a one off, because everyone else has been raving about them. Perhaps I just had too high of expectations.

Anyone else tried these things yet?
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I thought it was pretty good. Probably getting a box today.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Excellent observations as always man, that's just it. Rhodiola adds a great feel and smoothing effect to stimulants, we tested various dosages and found this dosage to be perfect for the product and effects we were after. I find it especially awesome using it fasted in the morning at a full dosage. Everyone is going to love the feel this product provides, and have the alternative alpha-y free option, if it doesn't particularly bode well with them.
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I'm sorry... You said there's an alpha-y free version? That stuff kinda messes with me. To be fair, though, I've never co-administered it with rhodiola.
 
Darkhorse192 said:
Anyone else tried these things yet?
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Combination of factors could account for substandard taste experienced.

However, the only protein bar I will back 10 times out of 10 and blame the OP's broken taste buds for is FitCrunch Peanut Butter flavor.
 
Buff bake cookies IMO were absolutely disgusting considering the macro profile.

Gave plasmajet a go the other night and was impressed with my initial test. Ill use it again tonight.
 
3clipseGT said:
Buff bake cookies IMO were absolutely disgusting considering the macro profile.

Gave plasmajet a go the other night and was impressed with my initial test. Ill use it again tonight.
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So you must REALLY hate buff bake cookies....lol
 
3clipseGT said:
Hahahaha. I just thought they tasted like chemicals and for all the fat and sugar that was in it, it should have tasted like a little debbie!
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Not had the buff bake cookies yet :( but I love the L&L cookies was hoping to try some of the newer buff bake cookies soon but if they do taste as you describe to me I will be sad.
 
Rob1882 said:
Not had the buff bake cookies yet :( but I love the L&L cookies was hoping to try some of the newer buff bake cookies soon but if they do taste as you describe to me I will be sad.
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L&L IMO blow them away. I can eat almost every L&L cookie and enjoy it. Buff bake.....not so much.
 
Driven2lift said:
What is it that sets them apart for you?
Or anyone else
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I just feel they taste good and although the macros arent great at all it is a nice treat every now and then. I might eat one every once in a blue moon but have tried all of their flavors and enjoy them.
 
People are still wasting calories on "protein cookies" instead of products from a real bakery? Good lord.
 
LLN said:
People are still wasting calories on "protein cookies" instead of products from a real bakery? Good lord.
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For 55g of carbs in a Len and Larry cookie I could get a real cookie and a protein shake for cheaper and the same macros if not less carbs.

I could almost get 2lbs of chicken for that price
 
LLN said:
People are still wasting calories on "protein cookies" instead of products from a real bakery? Good lord.
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I never understood the fascination with Lenny and Larry cookies. A decent amount of fat and highish in carbs. I could get a better tasting bakery treat for the same price and similar macros.
 
AntM1564 said:
I never understood the fascination with Lenny and Larry cookies. A decent amount of fat and highish in carbs. I could get a better tasting bakery treat for the same price and similar macros.
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I agree, way to much sugar and low quality protein sources, same with brownies, i feel they taste nice but for amount of sugar would rather just make my own healthier versions and top with buff bake peanut butter, or nuts n more pb, also misleading in that they list a serving as half of the cookie/brownie.
 
paul56778 said:
I agree, way to much sugar and low quality protein sources, same with brownies, i feel they taste nice but for amount of sugar would rather just make my own healthier versions and top with buff bake peanut butter, or nuts n more pb, also misleading in that they list a serving as half of the cookie/brownie.
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I hate when companies do this... nobody eats HALF a cookie, brownie, or bar... that's just silly/gimmicky.
 
No you couldn't this is false and if anyone else thinks so your wrong; I am a gourmet cook and foodie and you will not be buying bakery made goods with similar macro's at all. A normal cookie made more classically would have much more sugar and very little protein the protein in most cookies would come primarily from the flours most bakeries on top of that use fairly low quality flour bought in massive bulk 50# sacks by the pallet.

Higher protein flours are not typically used for cookies to further back this up which if you were a cook or a baker you would know but you are not ;) so consider yourself informed now as higher protein in flour changes the type of flour hence AP flour / occident ( the most commonly used and lower in protein ) vs say Bread flour a higher protein flour.

Let's just give you some numbers

Bread Flour: 14 - 16%
All-Purpose / Occident or plain flour (AP) Flour: 10 to 12%
Pastry Flour: 9%
Cake Flour: 7-8%

Brands have variables in commercial baking they use more generic terms and this is related to the protein content which changes the outcomes of both dough and the final product crumb/density.

You would not be using higher protein flours to make cookies unless you wanted ****ing bricks..

We can get into other pastries as I am vastly familiar with European pastries but needless to say no classic pastry is going to have similar ratio's as L&L cookies or Buff Bake. To get let's say 360 calories of cookie in a chocolate chip just to be generic your talking a few small cookies which in grams would be less than 1/2 of 1 L&L cookie it would have very little protein which would come from the flour alone unless you added nuts and even than it would be very minor as to many nuts the cookies would not hold form.

This is a tried argument as is the "Low Quality Protein" comments

How about buy what you like and don't worry about how others choose to spend their money ;) also when you dunno much about baking just don't talk about it.
 
Let's break down to further give numbers on the most common cookie which is the Chocolate Chip for my comparison the most common idea behind this currently is the "Joy of Baking" which most are either borrowing its recipe ( packaged products such as chips or packages of flour may even use/borrow )

Ingredients

1 cup plus 2 tablespoons flour
1/2 teaspoon baking soda

1 stick butter
1/2 cup sugar
1/2 cup packed brown sugar

1 egg
1/4 tsp salt
1 tbsp vanilla extract

1 cup semisweet chocolate chips
1.5 cups chopped walnuts

Directions

Whisk flour and baking powder

Cream butter and sugars.

Add egg, salt and vanilla to creamed butter. Stir the flour into this mixture until well combined.

Stir in chocolate chips and walnuts.

Drop onto greased cookie sheets, about 2 inches apart. Bake at 375 for 8-10 minutes.

makes 24 medium cookies

Number of Servings: 24

Servings Per Recipe: 24
Amount Per Serving
Calories: 177.3
Total Fat: 11.2 g
Cholesterol: 20.4 mg
Sodium: 83.6 mg
Total Carbs: 18.6 g
Dietary Fiber: 1.1 g
Protein: 2.4 g

These are fairly small cookies ( in physical dimension compared to the L&L cookie which is massive ) so to get one the same size just in dimension not density ( gram weight ) so 2 small cookies just to stay within reason because to get tyhe same gram weight you would be looking at nearly 1000 calories to compare to the L&L cookie in weight...

So 2 small cookies here 354 calories / 4.8g protein and these include walnuts.. double that to get to what most would likely eat or 8x that to compare in weight to a single L&L cookie....
 
Fusion X Frame released

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After almost nine months, Fusion has finally moved its pump supplement Fusion XFrame into the release stage. As promised the brand has made the product available in September, with this week bringing the reveal of its label and a pre-order promotion.
 
The Solution said:
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BloodShred War Edition identical to Raw just without rauwolfia

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If I am remembering right there is 2 versions on the last page? one with and one without Rauw ( I am blind it even says that in the middle of the post hahaha ) ? either way this looks pretty good and I like that new J. Reg extract they ( OL ) had sent me some caps which found out later to be this new extract and it was pretty decent.
 
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I havent seen this mentioned but as far as new companies go and products the Momentum Nutrition brand is my current favorite. Do they have a rep or code on here? Those guys are really doing an awesome thing for the industry. I have no complaints at all and use all their stuff.

Also oif I am not allowed to mention non forum sponsors (like BB.coms rules) without being a rep please let me know. I am not affiliated with them just figured I could recommend what works for me.
 
The Solution said:
Fusion X Frame released

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After almost nine months, Fusion has finally moved its pump supplement Fusion XFrame into the release stage. As promised the brand has made the product available in September, with this week bringing the reveal of its label and a pre-order promotion.
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Nine months for this? Yowza.
 
Rob1882 said:
If I am remembering right there is 2 versions on the last page? one with and one without Rauw ( I am blind it even says that in the middle of the post hahaha ) ? either way this looks pretty good and I like that new J. Reg extract they ( OL ) had sent me some caps which found out later to be this new extract and it was pretty decent.
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Read the text :)

The Solution said:
BloodShred War Edition identical to Raw just without rauwolfia

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Fewer calories than a L&L Cookie you delusional misers:

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...but don't worry L&L are MUCH better...
 
LLN said:
Fewer calories than a L&L Cookie you delusional misers:

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...but don't worry L&L are MUCH better...
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This where we list things with less and more? do we also list time frames needed to compile it/form/make it or go get it? and time it lasts in a pantry?

Do we also list all the things "I would rather eat"

How about you list what you eat and I go 1 by 1 into how its poverty garbage my cat isn't even given to eat.. We talk about the roast AU Lamb I feed my dog? ;)

And the Duck Confit I gave my cat the other day..

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Look slightly less calories ;)


Get real... Worry about what you buy and I'll buy what I like.
 
Fat2Strong said:
I havent seen this mentioned but as far as new companies go and products the Momentum Nutrition brand is my current favorite. Do they have a rep or code on here? Those guys are really doing an awesome thing for the industry. I have no complaints at all and use all their stuff.

Also oif I am not allowed to mention non forum sponsors (like BB.coms rules) without being a rep please let me know. I am not affiliated with them just figured I could recommend what works for me.
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I just checked them out! Nice looking aminos and pre!
 
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OL inform me if this flavoring is good? Hawaiian Cooler? Who has had that flavoring from OL :)

Is this like coconut pineapple? wut do?
 
Rob1882 said:
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OL inform me if this flavoring is good? Hawaiian Cooler? Who has had that flavoring from OL :)

Is this like coconut pineapple? wut do?
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Only a couple of people in Mount O have tried it. My understanding is that it is more a tropical punch.
 
GNO said:
Only a couple of people in Mount O have tried it. My understanding is that it is more a tropical punch.
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I like the sound of that I still need to try the re-flavored Conq so I will prob pick both up at the same time in the near future
 
Rob1882 said:
How about you list what you eat and I go 1 by 1 into how its poverty garbage my cat isn't even given to eat.. We talk about the roast AU Lamb I feed my dog? ;)
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Don't worry. I know better than to argue with addicts. Enjoy your cookies in peace.
 
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