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EvoMuse DCP Writeup

BRUstrong said:
Bump? Probably not a lot of input as my eating habits are pretty unusual. I have a strong stomach (all of my supplements are taken on an empty stomach) so I'll probably pull the trigger and try 1-2 caps at a time spaced out, with my last 2 coming before my feeding window
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It shouldn't affect your timing much at all.
 
Im going to have to try and split the doses up to 1 cap 6 times per day and see if that helps. The cap just destroys my weakling of a stomach. Lol
 
3clipseGT said:
Im going to have to try and split the doses up to 1 cap 6 times per day and see if that helps. The cap just destroys my weakling of a stomach. Lol
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You should be able to build up to it.

Did Vanillean bother you at all?
 
Is anybody else taking post workout? It's like it keeps the post workout endorphin euphoria going for another couple of hours. It may be my imagination but I don't care! :)
 
Tank999 said:
Is anybody else taking post workout? It's like it keeps the post workout endorphin euphoria going for another couple of hours. It may be my imagination but I don't care! :)
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You're the third person to mention it. Now I'm gonna have to try it.

So a dose preworkout and a dose post workout, or 1 and 1?
 
dsade said:
You're the third person to mention it. Now I'm gonna have to try it.

So a dose preworkout and a dose post workout, or 1 and 1?
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Same for me. I take a dose pre-fasted cardio and a second dose after. Seems to keep me from crashing after a hard session. Guessing it's the octopamine hcl but who knows. Either way I enjoy the effects.
 
GreenMachineX said:
I know this shouldn't effect it, but has anyone noticed any effects on blood pressure?
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It is possible for the capsaicinoids to cause an adrenergic reaction and cause a very slight increase in BP.

Sometimes if I over do it on the Thermogenesauce I'll get a slight raise in BP.
 
Started DCP, Epitome, and Eviscerate Smolder today. Crazy burning sensation around my abs. Normal? lol

Also, burning happened during my workout mostly. Especially after ab wheel.
 
Wimsicle said:
Started DCP, Epitome, and Eviscerate Smolder today. Crazy burning sensation around my abs. Normal? lol

Also, burning happened during my workout mostly. Especially after ab wheel.
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For Smolder? Of course.

Give the Eviscerate+ a try someday if you feel reckless.
 
dsade said:
For Smolder? Or course.

Give the Eviscerate+ a try someday if you feel reckless.
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And just when you think it stops and then all the sudden you start to stress out over something something work-related etc...and you start sweating and burning again around the stomach...its awesome how it kicks in from stress lol
 
DieselNY said:
And just when you think it stops and then all the sudden you start to stress out over something something work-related etc...and you start sweating and burning again around the stomach...its awesome how it kicks in from stress lol
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Awesome haha I love it!! Feels like I am just burning the fat away
 
Took 1 cap about 20 minutes before dinner last night, no issues. Going to go with 1 cap 3 times today too to ensure no cap issues before going to 3. My wife on the other hand wasn't so lucky...
 
so i went to 8 for the second time last night... First time ive gotten what you guys are getting.. IT SUCKS. My condolences to all of you, ill be sticking to 6-7.
 
DCP virgin, ( hasn't been delivered yet) so be gentle. What's the consensus as to the sweet spot?
I'll be in a deficit ( ~ 300 cal in food, plus 300 in cardio ) and not using any other supplement for fat loss.
Thanks
 
believer said:
DCP virgin, ( hasn't been delivered yet) so be gentle. What's the consensus as to the sweet spot?
I'll be in a deficit ( ~ 300 cal in food, plus 300 in cardio ) and not using any other supplement for fat loss.
Thanks
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Run it at the recommended dose.
 
Recommended dose is plenty lol. I've ran Vanilean, older DCP, DCP 2.0, original H.E.A.T

This version is insane compared to those. I had to walk into the factory portion of my work yesterday, I sweated so bad, I wanted to go home and change.
 
1 cap pre-meal has had no effect on me yet. I'll try 2 before dinner and see what that does. I'm looking forward to the results, as DCP 2.0 was excellent, but I'm not really looking forward to being hotter than I already am. You know that guy that just seems to sweat no matter the scenario? Yeah, that's me lol.
 
I'm only on day 2, taking reccomended dose - but not feeling any sweating. Stacking with Epitome (taking Epitome outside of 4 hr +/- window of workout)
 
I think the recommended dose of 6 caps per day should be plenty. 7 caps maybe. 8+ caps seems like you may be getting to the point where the sides outweigh the benefits.

I've been on this for a few days. I am noticing some heat, but these never seem to raise my body temp. I am pretty consistently below 98 degrees, and I have been running T3 for weeks and still below 98. Having said that, I had a little bit of a stall and took a diet break. The weight loss was slow and suddenly it seems to be picking up fast.
dsade, what are your thoughts on reverse T3? I have been taking up to 100 mcg T3 a day and notice NOTHING from it. I've been on a PSMF for 11 weeks. I started researching and it looks like reverse T3 may be the issue.

And I have a little theory. I am aware of studies showing capsaicin actually helps combat the metabolic decline seen in a 25% caloric deficit vs. control. I wonder if capsaicin may help reduce rT3...or something along those lines.

Yesterday and today, I've started to very mildly feel the T3. I've needed less sleep and my legs are a little "jittery". It's just strange that this all started within a few days of starting the DCP. From what I've heard, if my body clears the T3, it will be a sudden and drastic change...not gradual like I am feeling.

I am to stimulated to take my thermogum today even.
 
HIT4ME said:
I think the recommended dose of 6 caps per day should be plenty. 7 caps maybe. 8+ caps seems like you may be getting to the point where the sides outweigh the benefits.

I've been on this for a few days. I am noticing some heat, but these never seem to raise my body temp. I am pretty consistently below 98 degrees, and I have been running T3 for weeks and still below 98. Having said that, I had a little bit of a stall and took a diet break. The weight loss was slow and suddenly it seems to be picking up fast.
dsade, what are your thoughts on reverse T3? I have been taking up to 100 mcg T3 a day and notice NOTHING from it. I've been on a PSMF for 11 weeks. I started researching and it looks like reverse T3 may be the issue.

And I have a little theory. I am aware of studies showing capsaicin actually helps combat the metabolic decline seen in a 25% caloric deficit vs. control. I wonder if capsaicin may help reduce rT3...or something along those lines.

Yesterday and today, I've started to very mildly feel the T3. I've needed less sleep and my legs are a little "jittery". It's just strange that this all started within a few days of starting the DCP. From what I've heard, if my body clears the T3, it will be a sudden and drastic change...not gradual like I am feeling.

I am to stimulated to take my thermogum today even.
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Sounds more like you had bunk t3, more than anything. At 100mcgs a day even if your reverse t3 was insane high, you would be noticing the effects of t3.

Also rt3 usually doesnt raise when using t3. As most rt3 is made from t4.
 
rtmilburn said:
Sounds more like you had bunk t3, more than anything. At 100mcgs at day even if your reverse t3 was insane high, you would be noticing the effects of t3.
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Yes, that is what I thought at first. I bought RC T3 and dosed as high as 200 mcg with no effect at all.

Bought a well known foreign pharma brand from a trusted source and that's what I am using at 100 mcg.

I was also running Sup3r-11 and just finished up with that cycle. Machine Head pointed out that I may have had such low cortisol that it may have been inhibiting t3, which is a simpler solution so it is probably correct ...but who knows? It would explain why the T3 seems to be slowly becoming more effective over the past couple days. I may cut back to 50 mcg over the next few days to avoid a thyroid storm if either of these theories turns out to be true...
 
HIT4ME said:
I think the recommended dose of 6 caps per day should be plenty. 7 caps maybe. 8+ caps seems like you may be getting to the point where the sides outweigh the benefits.

I've been on this for a few days. I am noticing some heat, but these never seem to raise my body temp. I am pretty consistently below 98 degrees, and I have been running T3 for weeks and still below 98. Having said that, I had a little bit of a stall and took a diet break. The weight loss was slow and suddenly it seems to be picking up fast.
dsade, what are your thoughts on reverse T3? I have been taking up to 100 mcg T3 a day and notice NOTHING from it. I've been on a PSMF for 11 weeks. I started researching and it looks like reverse T3 may be the issue.

And I have a little theory. I am aware of studies showing capsaicin actually helps combat the metabolic decline seen in a 25% caloric deficit vs. control. I wonder if capsaicin may help reduce rT3...or something along those lines.

Yesterday and today, I've started to very mildly feel the T3. I've needed less sleep and my legs are a little "jittery". It's just strange that this all started within a few days of starting the DCP. From what I've heard, if my body clears the T3, it will be a sudden and drastic change...not gradual like I am feeling.

I am to stimulated to take my thermogum today even.
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You got pharma grade T3 ? It might be bunk or water retention from High BP,this problem is also very common
 
BP is in check...115/65 a couple weeks ago while on it.

Thing is, if this stuff is bunk...it seems to be kicking in since I stopped the Sup3r-11 and started the DCP. And it's pharma grade tiromel and looks like it should. From a well regarded company that has been gtg on other things I've ordered (like asthma inhalers for my gf)
 
HIT4ME said:
Yes, that is what I thought at first. I bought RC T3 and dosed as high as 200 mcg with no effect at all.

Bought a well known foreign pharma brand from a trusted source and that's what I am using at 100 mcg.

I was also running Sup3r-11 and just finished up with that cycle. Machine Head pointed out that I may have had such low cortisol that it may have been inhibiting t3, which is a simpler solution so it is probably correct ...but who knows? It would explain why the T3 seems to be slowly becoming more effective over the past couple days. I may cut back to 50 mcg over the next few days to avoid a thyroid storm if either of these theories turns out to be true...
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Yes i would try to add adrenosurge (if you can find it) and some pregnenolone, while reducing dose to 50mcgs. Also if you can source it switch to desiccated porcine thyroid, like amour thyroid or thyriod-s, as they usually come with less side effects and are more effective.
 
PSMF and t3? Damn dude. Overkill or you aren't giving your all on the diet...
 
DieselNY said:
PSMF and t3? Damn dude. Overkill or you aren't giving your all on the diet...
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Lol. I get where you are coming from. I am not looking to compete, just get to where I want to be. I was on Sup3r-11, T3, Brite, and PSMF. I am just a fat boy. I started out working out 3 years ago just so I was able to move, after a coupke months of lifting I weighed myself and I was 290. About a year and a half later I was at 250 with no dieting. Then I started a PSMF, got to 178, stopped, grew back to 215 because I adopted the same bad habits, and this morning I am back to 180. Goal is 160 as I am 5'8'' and I think I will be right around 10% bf there.

T3 hasn't been having any real effect on me at all....so I thought it was bunk....but I am thinking now it is something else going on. Tonight while working out I definitely noticed my heart rate was up and more forceful. I am dropping to 50 mcg tomorrow. It seems to be kicking in now that I am off the S11 and I wonder about the DCP if that is helping.

Since starting the DCP I feel like I am cruising.

Oh, and I don't claim to be the hardest dieter, but I am pretty extreme and put effort in that is appropriate for myself. I am not an athlete or doing shows. Just doing this for me. So there are people on here working much harder than me. But I'm getting a good return in my investment. I've dropped 32 pounds in 11 weeks and really just barely seen any decrease in strength.
 
HIT4ME said:
Lol. I get where you are coming from. I am not looking to compete, just get to where I want to be. I was on Sup3r-11, T3, Brite, and PSMF. I am just a fat boy. I started out working out 3 years ago just so I was able to move, after a coupke months of lifting I weighed myself and I was 290. About a year and a half later I was at 250 with no dieting. Then I started a PSMF, got to 178, stopped, grew back to 215 because I adopted the same bad habits, and this morning I am back to 180. Goal is 160 as I am 5'8'' and I think I will be right around 10% bf there.

T3 hasn't been having any real effect on me at all....so I thought it was bunk....but I am thinking now it is something else going on. Tonight while working out I definitely noticed my heart rate was up and more forceful. I am dropping to 50 mcg tomorrow. It seems to be kicking in now that I am off the S11 and I wonder about the DCP if that is helping.

Since starting the DCP I feel like I am cruising.

Oh, and I don't claim to be the hardest dieter, but I am pretty extreme and put effort in that is appropriate for myself. I am not an athlete or doing shows. Just doing this for me. So there are people on here working much harder than me. But I'm getting a good return in my investment. I've dropped 32 pounds in 11 weeks and really just barely seen any decrease in strength.
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I would really consider my suggestion i made. I think they would make a real difference. As pregnenolone can turn into cortisol but only tends to do so when the body is deficient, and has NUMEROUS of benfits even before any conversion. Adrenosurge helps adrenals run more optimally, and also has tons of other benfits. Those being the biggest. Lastly switching to desiccated porcine thyroid(such as armour thyriod and thyriod-s) i think might help as well, as user reports show less side effect and and a stronger overall effect. Issue with desiccated porcine thyroid is sourcing legit stuff.
 
rtmilburn said:
I would really consider my suggestion i made. I think they would make a real difference. As pregnenolone can turn into cortisol but only tends to do so when the body is deficient, and has NUMEROUS of benfits even before any conversion. Adrenosurge helps adrenals run more optimally, and also has tons of other benfits. Those being the biggest. Lastly switching to desiccated porcine thyroid(such as armour thyriod and thyriod-s) i think might help as well, as user reports show less side effect and and a stronger overall effect. Issue with desiccated porcine thyroid is sourcing legit stuff.
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Yes, I am hearing you. I'm going to look into it a bit more. Long term dieting, it seems, can increase rT3 levels - which is a possible explanation for "starvation mode". Taking T3 and shutting down TSH will stop the creation of T4, which is needed to create rT3 - so you will deplete your rT3 stores. But it could take up to 12 weeks! This may make it better in some cases to use T3 straight.

I'm going to look up Adrenosurge and DPT as soon as I have time tonight. I don't have a lot of funds right now, but I am listening and will look into it deeply.

The preg is also something that got my interest. Great suggestion.
 
Can this be stacked with rauwolscine?

I take Alpha Burn with caffeine pill 30 mins prior to running. I'm thinking of adding DCP dose to that. Is it ok or no? Please advise.
 
DSADE, I would also like to add another question. Is there anything in this that would cause an individual who works for the government to pop hot on a drug test. Most of These ingredients look so foreign to me.

Quite silly I ask this question because I've already got 2 bottles on hand and I've already started dosing them.
 
rtmilburn said:
Sounds more like you had bunk t3, more than anything. At 100mcgs a day even if your reverse t3 was insane high, you would be noticing the effects of t3.

Also rt3 usually doesnt raise when using t3. As most rt3 is made from t4.
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I had results of 25mcg of T3 and never needed to go over 50mcg, so i agree sounds like bunk, non legit T3.
 
Anyone stack this with EBF Recompadrol, Defuse and Baiba,

also would mixing with Lipomorph be overkill and more beneficial to use the Baiba.
 
has anyone that was having troubles with their stomach seem to be doing better ? my stomach is still on fire after each dose ? i looked at the caps to make sure they havent been broken its just too strong for me.
 
luckylefty811 said:
has anyone that was having troubles with their stomach seem to be doing better ? my stomach is still on fire after each dose ? i looked at the caps to make sure they havent been broken its just too strong for me.
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My issues have subsided. They aren't 100% gone but they are tolerable. For some reason it's actually worse when I wake up when I haven't taken it in over eight hours. I've been waking up with a hurting stomach.

Are you just taking one cap?
 
rtmilburn said:
Yes i would try to add adrenosurge (if you can find it) and some pregnenolone, while reducing dose to 50mcgs. Also if you can source it switch to desiccated porcine thyroid, like amour thyroid or thyriod-s, as they usually come with less side effects and are more effective.
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AdrenoSurge release under EvoMuse is slated for November.
 
I see the new DCP has some new substances now dsade

But I'm in the UK (Predator) and I only could find some Epitome and some Eviscerate/ Abs. Abliderate maybe...

I would like to try the Epitome + Rebirth combo.
OR some Epitome + Brite
OR even some Epitome + AMMO

Is there another Evomuse retailer in the UK?

I could find in another shop some older BPS DCP 2.0 version, is it still worth it to mix with Epitome? OR better some Epi + Eviscerate?

THANKS
 
luckylefty811 said:
has anyone that was having troubles with their stomach seem to be doing better ? my stomach is still on fire after each dose ? i looked at the caps to make sure they havent been broken its just too strong for me.
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My stomach has become more used to it. I have a yogurt in the morning then take it. Then I have a protein shake after I workout and take it. I took one pill every couple hours for a while, but I'm good with 2 now. I didn't think I'd get used to it, but I did. Give it about a week, eat some yogurt, and single dose when you have pain
 
HIT4ME said:
My issues have subsided. They aren't 100% gone but they are tolerable. For some reason it's actually worse when I wake up when I haven't taken it in over eight hours. I've been waking up with a hurting stomach.

Are you just taking one cap?
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Yea one cap every 3 hours
 
I wouldn't hesitate to drop to 4 a day if you aren't tolerant, if it is really bad. It isn't like this product is under dosed in any way. I think it is the only fat burner I've ever bought that I haven't even considered double dosing. 4 pills will still be effective I bet until you become tolerant.
 
I've been taking 6-8 caps per day starting 7/14 without any issues until today's second dose. Pretty bad capsaicin burn and indigestion
 
paul56778 said:
Anyone stack this with EBF Recompadrol, Defuse and Baiba,

also would mixing with Lipomorph be overkill and more beneficial to use the Baiba.
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I would advise dropping the Lipomorph or saving it for later if you're taking DCP. The double-dose of Octopamine, fucoxanthin, and menthol is redundant and could have unpleasant side-effects. Better off adding Baiba to DCP.
 
mechka_grizli said:
So is the consensus that its okay to take DCP with food?
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Should be fine to take with food. I wouldn't advise over-eating if you take your dose with food as the capsaicinoids might "burp-up" and that would be somewhat unpleasant, lol.
 
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