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Fat loss insan1ty with Sup3r-11 and Ignit3

I completely lost focus around day 7. I was just out of it like a zombie. Numerous people asked if I was sick haha. I can only imagine what it's like for you after this long. At some point I'd consider a longer diet break. Just so you could mentally reset for that last 10 lbs or so.

Honestly, I've gotten used to it. I have good days and bad days. I'd say 75% of the days, I barely notice it now. I think it is actually changing some of my eating habits, slowly - I just don't think about eating like I used to, and I have more control over my decisions. I'm sure I can slip back to the bad habits if I'm not careful, but for now, I feel more under control.

Once I hit about 165-170, I think I'm going to increase the calories to 1500/day, then to 2,000 a day and slowly ease down to that weight. I may take a couple day break in between to replenish. I may take a look at Lyle Macdonald's Ultimate Diet 2.0 a little more closely if I'm getting below 15% bodyfat too.
 
Honestly, I've gotten used to it. I have good days and bad days. I'd say 75% of the days, I barely notice it now. I think it is actually changing some of my eating habits, slowly - I just don't think about eating like I used to, and I have more control over my decisions. I'm sure I can slip back to the bad habits if I'm not careful, but for now, I feel more under control.

Once I hit about 165-170, I think I'm going to increase the calories to 1500/day, then to 2,000 a day and slowly ease down to that weight. I may take a couple day break in between to replenish. I may take a look at Lyle Macdonald's Ultimate Diet 2.0 a little more closely if I'm getting below 15% bodyfat too.

LMAO,
Macdonald's Ultimate Diet 2.0
Hahahaha!!!!
 
I'm almost 50 and survived without knowing him, hehe.
It just amuses me that a guy named Macdonald is a major diet-guru.

The humor is not lost on me :)

BTW, I probably was aware of Lyle's work since around 2000 - but I was 34 before I ever really read any of it in detail and understood it. And it is the bases of this diet that I am on...even though I don't follow it precisely because I'm a wimp.
 
The humor is not lost on me :)

BTW, I probably was aware of Lyle's work since around 2000 - but I was 34 before I ever really read any of it in detail and understood it. And it is the bases of this diet that I am on...even though I don't follow it precisely because I'm a wimp.

I wonder what else you should do -but not doing out of whimpyness following his diet...
May I recommend:
-3 x day sauna
-having sex only in advanced kamasutra positions
-go for a daily swim in winter like Russians do
-poking a wild bear 's nuts while he sleeps with a hot iron -then run for your life

LOL
 
UD 2.0 is intriguing but sounds so extreme in practice. The low cal glycogen depleting training and the crazy carb loading days. I think once you're under 15% you should try a more steady approach that can become a long term habit/practice. I've seen a lot of people get down to around 10% but never hold it long because they haven't built the habits to stay lean.
 
I wonder what else you should do -but not doing out of whimpyness following his diet...
May I recommend:
-3 x day sauna
-having sex only in advanced kamasutra positions
-go for a daily swim in winter like Russians do
-poking a wild bear 's nuts while he sleeps with a hot iron -then run for your life

LOL

Sauna...waste of time for me like doing 1 set to failure is for you.

Sex...more interested in the positions bighulksmash wants to be in with you.

I live near the ocean, I may have to try the polar bear swim this winter now that you there down.

Bears...I don't run. I am a stand and fight guy. I hate running that much, haha.

On the other hand, I did do the triceps challenge (turns out I am a wimp for sure by that gauge) and the deadlift challenge. So I may be a wimp, but I try not to admit it too often.
 
I wonder what else you should do -but not doing out of whimpyness following his diet...
May I recommend:
-3 x day sauna ass floss
-having sex only in advanced kamasutra positions
-go for a daily swim in winter like Russians do jerk off while backstroking
-poking a wild bear 's nuts while he sleeps with a hot iron -then run for your life or be d over n spread e.m

LOL


Wow !
 
Sauna...waste of time for me like doing 1 set to failure is for you.

Sex...more interested in the positions bighulksmash wants to be in with you.

I live near the ocean, I may have to try the polar bear swim this winter now that you there down.

Bears...I don't run. I am a stand and fight guy. I hate running that much, haha.

On the other hand, I did do the triceps challenge (turns out I am a wimp for sure by that gauge) and the deadlift challenge. So I may be a wimp, but I try not to admit it too often.

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UD 2.0 is intriguing but sounds so extreme in practice. The low cal glycogen depleting training and the crazy carb loading days. I think once you're under 15% you should try a more steady approach that can become a long term habit/practice. I've seen a lot of people get down to around 10% but never hold it long because they haven't built the habits to stay lean.

See, this is one of the mental issues with "dieting" that we tend to have at some point. Like our goal weight is a destination and once we "get there" the diet is over and we are done working. But being below even 15% bfn, for most people, is a lifelong challenge. Especially after years of over eating and the metabolic damage and additional fat cells that are created.

The rapid fat loss diet (like what I am kinda doing) and ultimate diet 2.0 are both great "getting there" tools. But you need staying there tools too.

On the other hand, having a goal and an end is also motivating in the "getting there" phase. Like you were saying about having just 12 days and at day 9 when it was bad, you knew you just had so much time left or a certain end point

So, having said that, I think there are three stages. Getting there, preparing to stay there, and staying there.

And I know cheeseburgers with bacon, a limited amount of fast food, take out, etc. Are going to be in my future here and there. I am thinking I need to be "on" 5 days a week and then maybe two days allow moderate cheating. Maybe my plan, knowing I will cheat, will be to calculate my calories for a week just below maintenance, and allow the calories from the cheats to push me into a slight surplus to fuel some slow muscle growth and hard workouts.

What habits do you think help "keep you there"?
 
Also, today's update. I was extremely slow and tired and had no motivation for working out so I took an extra day off. I will hit it again tomorrow. Can't go into back night half-@seed.

I had 2 scoops of protein powder and then had a cheat meal (chicken parm) for dinner.
 
Also, today's update. I was extremely slow and tired and had no motivation for working out so I took an extra day off. I will hit it again tomorrow. Can't go into back night half-@seed.

I had 2 scoops of protein powder and then had a cheat meal (chicken parm) for dinner.

Atleast your making progress! Good job !
 
Atleast your making progress! Good job !

Ty sir! Always slower than you would think, even eating under 1000 calories a day 6 days/week. But it eventually just happens
 
LMAO, too funny.

I usually don't talk about my ****-ups but I think it may be very valid for me to put this out there starting two days ago in the evening I was taking some diet pills plus some bronkaid and I just kept taking the bronkaid and ended up not eating for close to 16 hours my whole body felt like it was going to shut down it was horrible when I was younger I never experienced anything like this and I would go long periods of time without eating.

I spent most the day very weak incoherent rambling butt I was able to get up and eat some grilled chicken with a tortilla shell I did that 3 times throughout the day total probably 12 ounces of chicken three tortila.

So the moral of my miniature lecture / story is just stay on your study path try to get to the Finish Line to Quick you will fall.

I'm also in a sharp calorie deficit right now really trying to cut weight so far I probably lost 15 pounds in 3 weeks still not really showing very much but I'm going to spend the next six to eight months slowly getting down to 5 to 10% body fat again I miss those days.
 
I usually don't talk about my ****-ups but I think it may be very valid for me to put this out there starting two days ago in the evening I was taking some diet pills plus some bronkaid and I just kept taking the bronkaid and ended up not eating for close to 16 hours my whole body felt like it was going to shut down it was horrible when I was younger I never experienced anything like this and I would go long periods of time without eating.

I spent most the day very weak incoherent rambling butt I was able to get up and eat some grilled chicken with a tortilla shell I did that 3 times throughout the day total probably 12 ounces of chicken three tortila.

So the moral of my miniature lecture / story is just stay on your study path try to get to the Finish Line to Quick you will fall.

I'm also in a sharp calorie deficit right now really trying to cut weight so far I probably lost 15 pounds in 3 weeks still not really showing very much but I'm going to spend the next six to eight months slowly getting down to 5 to 10% body fat again I miss those days.

Lol, I have days like that! Sometimes I ramble even when not on the diet, haha. This diet does just suit me though. It is extreme, but so we're my over eating habits. I do need to get into a more steady situation before it is all over though.

15 pounds in 3 weeks is awesome man - faster than I am doing!

Part of my issue is I am behind a computer and in a car A LOT for my job. I don't have a lot of time left over for exercise and I am sedentary most of the day.

Great work man.
 
Oh, one last update. I did use up the rest of the sup3r 11 tonight. Will start pct in the morning. A week short of the 12 weeks planned. I am happy though. I think that I've lost about 30 pounds, taking in under 1000 calories a day most days, and using T3...I've seen no signs of muscle loss, maybe even pushing strength up a little in some cases. At 500 mg, I could tell my recovery abilities were dramatically increased, even in such a deficit.

I would like to thank OL and NewAgeMayan again for the extra bottle of Sup3r-11. Great product, I was very happy with it, I am sad to see it discontinued so soon...glad I at least have 3 bottles left still for another run.
 
I usually don't talk about my ****-ups but I think it may be very valid for me to put this out there starting two days ago in the evening I was taking some diet pills plus some bronkaid and I just kept taking the bronkaid and ended up not eating for close to 16 hours my whole body felt like it was going to shut down it was horrible when I was younger I never experienced anything like this and I would go long periods of time without eating.

I spent most the day very weak incoherent rambling butt I was able to get up and eat some grilled chicken with a tortilla shell I did that 3 times throughout the day total probably 12 ounces of chicken three tortila.

So the moral of my miniature lecture / story is just stay on your study path try to get to the Finish Line to Quick you will fall.

I'm also in a sharp calorie deficit right now really trying to cut weight so far I probably lost 15 pounds in 3 weeks still not really showing very much but I'm going to spend the next six to eight months slowly getting down to 5 to 10% body fat again I miss those days.

You have gotten to 5% bf previously? Would love to see some pics of that
 
See, this is one of the mental issues with "dieting" that we tend to have at some point. Like our goal weight is a destination and once we "get there" the diet is over and we are done working. But being below even 15% bfn, for most people, is a lifelong challenge. Especially after years of over eating and the metabolic damage and additional fat cells that are created.

The rapid fat loss diet (like what I am kinda doing) and ultimate diet 2.0 are both great "getting there" tools. But you need staying there tools too.

On the other hand, having a goal and an end is also motivating in the "getting there" phase. Like you were saying about having just 12 days and at day 9 when it was bad, you knew you just had so much time left or a certain end point

So, having said that, I think there are three stages. Getting there, preparing to stay there, and staying there.

And I know cheeseburgers with bacon, a limited amount of fast food, take out, etc. Are going to be in my future here and there. I am thinking I need to be "on" 5 days a week and then maybe two days allow moderate cheating. Maybe my plan, knowing I will cheat, will be to calculate my calories for a week just below maintenance, and allow the calories from the cheats to push me into a slight surplus to fuel some slow muscle growth and hard workouts.

What habits do you think help "keep you there"?

Habits like planning your cheats and working in foods you enjoy into your macros. Sure it can be tedious at times but it works, and after a while it either becomes 2nd nature or you actually gain the ability to eat instinctively without destroying progress. When you diet it can be a lot less to work with but with strategies like IF you can still enjoy food. It might not be tons of it but it'll help with the mental grind. To me, the ultimate goal would be finding a balanced place where you're also happy with your food choices. That just comes with practice, tweaking, and time; the preparing to get there stage you mentioned. Crash diets don't do the best job at that. Moderate flexible dieting for me at least has. Lyle may explain diet transition at length but putting it into practice is an entirely different thing. I know from both positive & negative experiences. I'm sure you already know what I'm saying. Good luck with your PCT btw.
 
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5ft 11 161 lbs HIT4ME
Thats the best I ever looked .
Then boom an accident set me back 3.5 yrs.

You will get back there man. You know you can, because you have already done it!

Although, that is a mental block sometimes for me. If I think something will be hard or near impossible, I work harder to make it happen...

Habits like planning your cheats and working in foods you enjoy into your macros. Sure it can be tedious at times but it works, and after a while it either becomes 2nd nature or you actually gain the ability to eat instinctively without destroying progress. When you diet it can be a lot less to work with but with strategies like IF you can still enjoy food. It might not be tons of it but it'll help with the mental grind. To me, the ultimate goal would be finding a balanced place where you're also happy with your food choices. That just comes with practice, tweaking, and time; the preparing to get there stage you mentioned. Crash diets don't do the best job at that. Moderate flexible dieting for me at least has. Lyle may explain diet transition at length but putting it into practice is an entirely different thing. I know from both positive & negative experiences. I'm sure you already know what I'm saying. Good luck with your PCT btw.

Great thoughts on this. Knowing what to do and actually doing it are very different things! When I was in college I was in decent shape, worked out a lot and had lost a lot of weight in my early teens and kept it off. When I got into the real world I ballooned up to almost 300 pounds. People would be on diets and fads and I would give them advice on how to adjust things and I know they were looking at this fat ass thinking I knew nothing. Truth is, I knew quite a bit about weight loss compared to the average person...I just didn't implement it.

The thing that gets me now...a pet peeve...is when people see me and they are like , "holy sh1t, you've lost a ton of weight....what did you do?"

Like they are looking for that ONE change that made all the difference. And that one change is I stopped eating. The second change is I lift weights. That's it. But they want to hear how it was a low carb diet or this one thing that no one knows about .

The clip from the Rock's new movie cracks me up. About 40 seconds in, the rock says how he lost weight, "I just did one thing"

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Today's weigh in:

Bodyweight: 183
Tanita Bodyfat %: 25%
Waist: 39.75"
 
So, New routine today and it is going to take some getting used to. Lots of new pills and liquids to take. Haha.

I took 5 Sup3r-PCT pills this morning with 50 mcg T3, 3 Ignite, 1 combustion. I forgot the DCP and Brite in the morning. I also applied 1 pump of Exotherm and took a 20 mg bombarded.

This afternoon around 2 I took another 50 mcg T3, 2 ignite, 1 combustion. Then I realized I forgot the DCP and Brite so I took 3 DCP and 3 pumps Brute, another 10 mg nolvadex and 1 pump exotherm and 5 more Sup3r PCT.

I had 1 scoop isomorph, 1.5 oz of beef jerky this afternoon (235 calories, 47 g pro), another scoop of Isomorph post workout, 7 oz. Chicken and a bag of broccoli for dinner. I will have another scoop of Select and half package pudding tonight. Totals will end up being around 800 calls and 145 grams protein.

I applied a third pump exotherm after my shower post workout.

My workout went fairly well. Back.

Deadliest:
1 x 8 x 225
Drop Set
1 x 405 (almost got a second but failed half way)
2 x 375 (+1 rep)
4 x 345 (+2 reps)
4 x 315 (-1 rep)

Pull Ups
1 x 7 x bw (+1 rep)
1 x 3 x bw (same)

Bent Over Rows
4 x 175 (+1 rep)
3 x 175 (+1 rep)

Under handed pull downs:
Drop Set
5 x 135 (same)
2 x 120 (same)
2 x 105 (same)

Strength is inching up slowly still.
 
what I want is help with adrenal fatigue and slow metabolism lol

Lol, sleep and exercise!

awesome work out man ~!~ T3 made me shake like a drunk pirate props on that dose !

Yeah, if I didn't get this from a reliable pharma source I would wonder if it is junk. I tried research chem T3 in the beginning of this log and thought it just lost potency. But this is pharmacological grade and I notice nothing from it. Maybe it just doesn't work for me? I have no idea. You would think 100 mcg would have fat falling off with this diet.
 
Lol, sleep and exercise!



Yeah, if I didn't get this from a reliable pharmacological source I would wonder if it is junk. I tried research chem T3 in the beginning of this log and thought it just lost potency. But this is pharmacological grade and I notice nothing from it. Maybe it just doesn't work for me? I have no idea. You would think 100 mcg would have fat falling off with this diet.

that's the issue . did u run a tsh panel b4 running t3 >?>
 
Nope. Not ideal I know.
 
dude I ran way worse without bloods . No worrys just asap grab a tsh and be honest with your doctor about the T3 . If you do find your thyroid is hypo or hyper a small dose of levothyroxine usually helps .just please see the doc asap .

a little excerpt from an article I read .



How T3 Can Promote Weight Loss

The only mechanism by which T3 promotes weight loss is by increasing metabolic rate.

Although it is a one-trick weight loss solution, that one trick is pretty remarkable. T3 increases basal metabolic rate by increasing the rate at which the body breaks down all food groups. It unlocks significant energy for the body to use, and it can produce very dramatic results especially in overweight people with diagnosed or silent hypothyroidism.

When the amount of thyroid hormones produced in the body falls, the rate of metabolism falls with it. In this regard, the amount of circulating T3 is more important than that of T4.

Because of the reduced metabolic rate, low thyroid functioning results in difficulty in reducing body weight. When overweight individuals adopt healthy, low caloric diets and take up regular exercise but still cannot shed weight, the most likely reason is low metabolic rate caused by low T3 levels.

Even a 10% reduction in metabolic rate can make weight loss very difficult. However, available clinical data suggest that most people who find it difficult to lose weight have 15 – 40% reduction in metabolic rate.

For this group of people, T3 is the magic remedy for losing weight.

The ability of T3 to prompting weight loss does not really depend on adopting a low caloric diet. In fact, the usual response to a low-carbohydrate diet is a reduction in the body’s metabolic rate. By supplementing with T3, the body keeps up a high rate of metabolism even with the amount of calories in the diet is reduced.

Exercise, on the other hand, has a more significant effect on the result of T3 supplementation in weight loss. In fact, T3 increases the amount of available energy, and practically encourages the user to exercise.

Unlike stimulants like caffeine and synephrine, T3 increases the rate of metabolism without such side effects as jitters. It does not make the user “hyper”. Instead, it simply energizes the user without the crash that comes from overstimulation with stimulants.

When taking T3 for weight loss, the aim is to increase the levels of T3 to the edge of the upper limit while not stepping over and setting off hyperthyroidism.

To do that, it is important to closely monitor the plasma levels of T3 while taking the supplement.

Where this is not possible, clear signs of hyperthyroidism such as irregular, rapid heartbeats should be the indication to stop T3 supplementation.

In most cases of abnormal weight gain even in the face of dieting and exercise, there is an impairment in the enzymes responsible for converting T4 to T3. Since most of the circulating T3 in the body comes from T4, such impairment makes it important to find another source of T3. This can be done through drugs and supplements that increase T3 levels.

I tried this after my car accident I went from 161 cut and solid to 341 suicidal useless feelings were all I had all day . its been 5 yrs since that I managed to rehab and get down to 217 . still got a spare tire iam not proud but I did change diet and focus on cardio and heavy lifts ! good luck bro !
 
dude I ran way worse without bloods . No worrys just asap grab a tsh and be honest with your doctor about the T3 . If you do find your thyroid is hypo or hyper a small dose of levothyroxine usually helps .just please see the doc asap .

a little excerpt from an article I read .



How T3 Can Promote Weight Loss

The only mechanism by which T3 promotes weight loss is by increasing metabolic rate.

Although it is a one-trick weight loss solution, that one trick is pretty remarkable. T3 increases basal metabolic rate by increasing the rate at which the body breaks down all food groups. It unlocks significant energy for the body to use, and it can produce very dramatic results especially in overweight people with diagnosed or silent hypothyroidism.

When the amount of thyroid hormones produced in the body falls, the rate of metabolism falls with it. In this regard, the amount of circulating T3 is more important than that of T4.

Because of the reduced metabolic rate, low thyroid functioning results in difficulty in reducing body weight. When overweight individuals adopt healthy, low caloric diets and take up regular exercise but still cannot shed weight, the most likely reason is low metabolic rate caused by low T3 levels.

Even a 10% reduction in metabolic rate can make weight loss very difficult. However, available clinical data suggest that most people who find it difficult to lose weight have 15 – 40% reduction in metabolic rate.

For this group of people, T3 is the magic remedy for losing weight.

The ability of T3 to prompting weight loss does not really depend on adopting a low caloric diet. In fact, the usual response to a low-carbohydrate diet is a reduction in the body’s metabolic rate. By supplementing with T3, the body keeps up a high rate of metabolism even with the amount of calories in the diet is reduced.

Exercise, on the other hand, has a more significant effect on the result of T3 supplementation in weight loss. In fact, T3 increases the amount of available energy, and practically encourages the user to exercise.

Unlike stimulants like caffeine and synephrine, T3 increases the rate of metabolism without such side effects as jitters. It does not make the user “hyper”. Instead, it simply energizes the user without the crash that comes from overstimulation with stimulants.

When taking T3 for weight loss, the aim is to increase the levels of T3 to the edge of the upper limit while not stepping over and setting off hyperthyroidism.

To do that, it is important to closely monitor the plasma levels of T3 while taking the supplement.

Where this is not possible, clear signs of hyperthyroidism such as irregular, rapid heartbeats should be the indication to stop T3 supplementation.

In most cases of abnormal weight gain even in the face of dieting and exercise, there is an impairment in the enzymes responsible for converting T4 to T3. Since most of the circulating T3 in the body comes from T4, such impairment makes it important to find another source of T3. This can be done through drugs and supplements that increase T3 levels.

I tried this after my car accident I went from 161 cut and solid to 341 suicidal useless feelings were all I had all day . its been 5 yrs since that I managed to rehab and get down to 217 . still got a spare tire iam not proud but I did change diet and focus on cardio and heavy lifts ! good luck bro !

Thank you for that info. I don't really have any healthcare but I will see what I can do. I am wondering if I just have an issue absorbing it or something. Pretty much everything I take has little effect and I have to take larger doses than normal.

Sorry to hear about your accident and the aftermath bro. Glad you kept fighting. Truly
 
Thank you for that info. I don't really have any healthcare but I will see what I can do. I am wondering if I just have an issue absorbing it or something. Pretty much everything I take has little effect and I have to take larger doses than normal.

Sorry to hear about your accident and the aftermath bro. Glad you kept fighting. Truly

thanks man , If theres anything you need let me know ! You can do this !
 
bighulksmash

You have learned me some things. It seems that there may actually be a mechanism for slowing the metabolism by thyroid hormones. Conversion of t4 to t3 can be modified to create reverse t3 which will attach to the receptor but have no effect on activating the receptor. High levels of rt3 can blockade receptors causing t3 to be ineffective. Long periods of dieting can increase rt3 and thus make t3 ineffective.

Rt3 levels can take 12 weeks to clear the system. If this is the case, reducing tsh through t3 supplementation may actually be beneficial.
 
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bighulksmash

You have learned me some things. It seems that there may actually be a mechanism for slowing the metabolism by thyroid hormones. Conversion of t4 to t3 can be modified to create reverse t3 which will attach to the receptor but have no effect on activating the receptor. High levels of rt3 can blockade receptors causing t3 to be ineffective. Long periods of dieting can increase rt3 and thus make t3 ineffective.

Rt3 levels can take 12 weeks to clear the system. If this is the case, reducing tsh through t3 supplementation may actually be beneficial.
 
bighulksmash

You have learned me some things. It seems that there may actually be a mechanism for slowing the metabolism by thyroid hormones. Conversion of t4 to t3 can be modified to create reverse t3 which will attach to the receptor but have no effect on activating the receptor. High levels of rt3 can blockade receptors causing t3 to be ineffective. Long periods of dieting can increase rt3 and thus make t3 ineffective.

Rt3 levels can take 12 weeks to clear the system. If this is the case, reducing tsh through t3 supplementation may actually be beneficial.

You are supplementing exogenous T3...
 
You are supplementing exogenous T3...

Yes. So, I've been dieting though and my body may have been converting t4 to rt3 to slow my metabolism, so my receptors are full of rt3. So now, taking exogenous t3 doesn't work. But, exogenous t3 should reduce tsh, which will reduce t4, which will limit the supply of new rt3, so I can clear the receptors, which may take 12 weeks. All just a theory of course, no bloods on my part.
 
Yes. So, I've been dieting though and my body may have been converting t4 to rt3 to slow my metabolism, so my receptors are full of rt3. So now, taking exogenous t3 doesn't work. But, exogenous t3 should reduce tsh, which will reduce t4, which will limit the supply of new rt3, so I can clear the receptors, which may take 12 weeks. All just a theory of course, no bloods on my part.

Blood work would be ideal pre and post . Access or none ?
 
No access. I will have to get some done through a lab soon...short of funds right this moment ...rent, car payments, electric coming up.
 
Yeah, what sucks apparently is that other people are saying the rt3 can clear quickly, so it will suddenly be gone and then the t3 will have full effect. So you are going along 1 day at 150 mcg t3 and feeling nothing and the next day it destroys you.

I mean, this is a crazy diet, and I am doing this for science, so here we are. My original hypothesis was that the law of thermodynamics rules entirely, and now I'm seeing some signs that support some form of mechanism for metabolic slowdown in the fact that T3 is having such a small effect.

If anything, it may be a good idea to try to shut down tsh a little before a long and harsh diet to reduce rt3 levels going into the diet...if you are that hardcore. Or, coming off the diet, these rt3 levels should be considered.
 
Today's weigh in:

Bodyweight: 181.5
Tanita Bodyfat %: 24%
Waist: 39.5"

Woke up early morning with a slight stomach ache. The capsaicin in the DCP is well dosed and takes some getting used to, but I took 2 DCP along with all the other stuff I am taking about 2 hours ago and no issues yet...so I seem to tolerate 2 alright.

Liquid Nolva has to be the worst tasting stuff ever.
 
Today's weigh in:

Bodyweight: 181.5
Tanita Bodyfat %: 24%
Waist: 39.5"

Woke up early morning with a slight stomach ache. The capsaicin in the DCP is well dosed and takes some getting used to, but I took 2 DCP along with all the other stuff I am taking about 2 hours ago and no issues yet...so I seem to tolerate 2 alright.

Liquid Nolva has to be the worst tasting stuff ever.

Lol @ the liquid nolva . The liquid clomid gave me the shyts bad !
 
Man, it is horrific ...and it sticks in the back of your throat with this stinging feeling for over an hour.
 
Try liquid exemstane man. I thought nolva was bad till i tried that. Now i use the nolva to get the exemestane taste out of my mouth. Liquid rc still has its uses if you want/need it in 3 days instead of 3 weeks
 
I thought I updated this yesterday, but I guess I didn't submit or something.

It is funny, since bighulksmash brought up the large dose of T3 and the discussion of it not working, it seems to be kicking in. Ive needed less sleep than I've been needing and last night during my workout my heart was beating hard and fast - not so bad I was having issues, but I was noticing it.

Another possibility that machinehead brought up is that the Super 11 reduced cortisol to the point it was interfering with T3 entry into cells. This would explain why I seem to be gradually sensitizing to it again as my Cort levels are coming up.

If this theory is true, then it speaks to S11's effectiveness at cortisol control. 509 mg was a strong dose. It also reminds me that Patrick Arnold used to say that low doses of 11-oxo were better for fat loss and higher doses were better for bulking. My experience is that the anabolic effects of 11-KT definitely become more pronounced with larger doses, but to be honest - at 500 mg. My weight loss completely stalled even in this deficit.

Today's weigh In:
Bodyweight: 179.5
Tanita Bodyfat %: 24%
Waist: 39.5"

I will update my workout from last night later this evening when I get home and can look at my log.
 
Great insight. This information is very useful in case I gonna use 11-KT for a cut- or bulk!
 
Sorry for the lack of updates guys. This weekend was pretty crazy and I just didn't have much time to do this. This morning's weigh in:

Bodyweight: 177.5 pounds
Tanita Bodyfat%: 23%
Waist: 39.25"

I have to say that since coming OFF of the Sup3r-11, my weight loss seems to have become consistent and I feel like I am cruising. I don't think that the Sup3r-11 was hindering fat loss per se, but it was hindering weight loss. At 500 mg especially, it "felt" more anabolic and I was definitely holding weight. I am guessing part of the reason I feel like I am cruising now is because I was retaining water weight and that is coming off now.

I have cut my T3 back to 50 mcg and I'm not sure...maybe the stuff is junk, although it's a legit pharma source that I got it from so I would have to have bad luck if this is the case.

My supplement routine, again, is as follows:

Morning: 25 mcg T3, 2 DCP caps (new version), 2 squirts of Brite, 5 Sup3r-PCT and 0.5 ml of Nolvadex (10 mg), plus 1 pump of Exotherm. I also take an unnamed fat burner that IDL sent me as a sample to try for a while. I dropped the Ignit3 while I'm using this burner. The burner has DMHA, forskolin, green tea, green coffee bean.

Afternoon (around 2): 25 mcg T3, 2 DCP caps, 2 squirts brite, 0.5 ml Nolvadex and 1 pump exotherm. I've also added in IDL's fat burner, a second pill, a couple times now. This burner is pretty long-lasting and the second pill hits harder than the first, but it's a pretty smooth and subtle energy. I feel pretty good on it.

Nighttime (around 8-9): 2 DCP caps, 2 squirts Brite, 1 pump exotherm, 5 Sup3r-PCT capsules.

Yesterday I took a second IDL fat burner around 3 (label says not to exceed 2 per day) and I felt great. At midnight however, I was still wide awake and having trouble falling asleep. I was up until about 1, and then woke up again at 4 and kept falling asleep and waking up, falling asleep and waking up. I'm honestly not sure if it was IDL's burner that caused this or the T3 may be kicking in now and I need less sleep?

When I got up to get ready for work, I was pretty tired so I thought, "What the hell, it's for science" and I took 2 of IDL's fat burner caps together this morning. About 20-30 minutes later I felt some very mild jitters, shakes, etc. and what I'll call stimulant mouth. Not unpleasant, but I was certainly stimulated and awake and ready to roll. I am VERY stim tolerant though, so I wouldn't recommend anyone try this at home because I can imagine you may regret it and there is no way to "un-take" a pill really.

A few hours later and I feel very energized and awake and good. DMHA is different feeling than DMAA. It's maybe not as hard hitting, but long lasting and subtle. I'm can take 60-75 mg of DMAA at a time and I'm sure if I doubled that it would hit me very hard.

The fat burner also seems to make me a lot more "tolerant". Some say euphoria and I don't know that I would call it that, but I don't get upset as easily and some of the drama that has crept into my life in the past couple years, I'm just dealing with better. It's a nice side effect, especially on a diet.

I did legs on Saturday and it was an OK workout, didn't improve a lot but a little. I took a sample Dynadrene pack that IDL sent me as a pre-workout before the leg workout. I was dead tired on that day because I had 11 hours of sleep the previous two nights (total). By the time I was supposed to do legs, I was considering not even trying I was so wiped out. But I took the Dynadrene, which has DMAA, and 30 minutes later I was focused and alert and working out. The thing that I did notice while using the Dynadrene was that my perception of effort was decreased. After I did my drop set of squats, I moved onto leg extensions and I did 2 reps and then had to check to make sure I put all the plates on that I intended to because it just felt so light. I only got 1 more rep than last week (8 instead of 7) so I wasn't THAT much stronger, but it felt easier.

All in all, IDL was very kind to send me these samples and I am very happy with them. They do what they say they will do, and if these effects are what you're looking for, IDL can deliver the goods. I will update more as I use the product. I know some stims are great off the bat and you build up a tolerance quickly. I'm not sure about that part yet, but will keep updating. They sent me 40 pills so it will last a while.
 
Another morning weigh in:

Bodyweight: 178
Tanita Bodyfat %: 24%
Waist: 39"

Had a cheat meal last night - a burger, fries and some onion rings. Other than that I ate 2 oz. beef jerky (160 calories) and a Select shake (120 calories) during the day. I didn't work out two nights ago because I had pulled a muscle in my back/chest and didn't want to hurt it. I didn't work out last night because I was honestly feeling pretty sick. I thought it was the DCP upsetting my stomach, but now I think it is the Nolvadex based on the fact that if I take the DCP without the Nolva I am fine and then when I add the nolva in during the day, I get upset stomach. Not surprising since the stuff tastes like stomach bile and burns like it too.
 
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