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Next PES Insider Deal???

kbayne said:
I believe he wasn't able to be on the forums near as much with his career and stop repping a good while ago.
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MidwestBeast said:
Bobby is doing well :)

Working with all those young hockey studs turning pro up north of the border ;)
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Ah ok, glad to hear he's in good health and doing well.

Life and family of course always takes priority, but it stinks when good members disappear for a while.

Another guy I really miss is Jason (ZiR RED)
 
Dirty Dan said:
Ah ok, glad to hear he's in good health and doing well.

Life and family of course always takes priority, but it stinks when good members disappear for a while.

Another guy I really miss is Jason (ZiR RED)
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Every few years zir shows up ha. Kinda like the og coop
 
Driven2lift said:
So after hearing more from up top, I'd like to excite people a touch by saying that this has less tolerance build than the OG

So, the energy in this should keep kicking daily, making it an even better Energy Drink option.

The HICA made sense for muscle preservation in a burner, but has no home in an energy drink, not a good enough fit to make customers pay more for this.

If muscle growth or maintenance is the goal we hope the more ideal product Ergonine is being used, which has your HICA.

Leucine was used here because it has additive effects. It appears that HICA does not past the dose we include in Ergonine.


I'm happy to take any questions by PM as well as anywhere here, if you have more to ask of us.
But let's not repeat ourselves to death here anymore haha.

Thanks for your time guys
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how is leucine fit for an energy drink vs hica having no place? what about a refractionary periods being important between mps spikes and applying generally to people that youre generally bringing this up to? i will spare you the response for saving peoples money on hica.

idk what this has to do with cns tolerance and build up which i feel like is how people will interpret that "exciting" statement, lower stimulant intake will take longer to build tolerance to but its not much more than that although.....------>
i think the applicable answer, is that its likely the theanine content that will keep kicking day in and day out, its an awesome addition.

overall i think a lot of people will really like such a simple, synergistic combination. assuming theanine dose is adequate. i really do think this will sell well, good for yall. hopefully more money to put into new projects for the forum bros.
 
squirtguns89 said:
how is leucine fit for an energy drink vs hica having no place? what about a refractionary periods being important between mps spikes and applying generally to people that youre generally bringing this up to? i will spare you the response for saving peoples money on hica.

idk what this has to do with cns tolerance and build up which i feel like is how people will interpret that "exciting" statement, lower stimulant intake will take longer to build tolerance to but its not much more than that although.....------>
i think the applicable answer, is that its likely the theanine content that will keep kicking day in and day out, its an awesome addition.

overall i think a lot of people will really like such a simple, synergistic combination. assuming theanine dose is adequate. i really do think this will sell well, good for yall. hopefully more money to put into new projects for the forum bros.
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I have an article coming out soon on why leucine was a better choice, but its based on the fact that leucine has better data and a small dose (similar to HICA) can have very beneficial (effects promotes skeletal muscle protein anabolism and spares endogenous protein). The theanine content is not low, otherwise we would not be able to make scientific claims on it. I have nothing against HICA; otherwise it wouldn't be in ergonine :)
 
Synapsin said:
I have an article coming out soon on why leucine was a better choice, but its based on the fact that leucine has better data and a small dose (similar to HICA) can have very beneficial (effects promotes skeletal muscle protein anabolism and spares endogenous protein). The theanine content is not low, otherwise we would not be able to make scientific claims on it. I have nothing against HICA; otherwise it wouldn't be in ergonine :)
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this isnt to you/your comment specifically, but i think my only nitpicking has to do with certain comments that are more besides the point to what the formula is intended for from my pov. although i think some of this is more marketing for the main stream audience so i do get that.

on another note, leucines role in optimizing certain pathways is very interesting, yet we know, that refractionary aspects behind mps has been keyed in on. never the less, thats the beauty of some of these ingredients.. sometimes there is merit to multiple uses, even if its not ideal in the traditional way of thought, that doesnt mean it cancels out other benefits (insert Forrest trees ect). or perhaps its use was not intended for those that micro manage such things, it will be interesting to hear your full thoughts on it and hope you touch base on some of that although i do see where youre going with what your brought up and its a valid point.

i did have some concern, of why other ingredients werent used (various adaptogens ect), but i get that this is supposed to be a regularly used pick me up and probably more ideal to use more fundamental ingredients perhaps you didnt want anything necessitating cycling off of among other factors im sure. but i do feel youre typically as straight forward as allowed to be and i do respect your thoughts immensely, i have learned a lot from you over the years, and thank you for that.
 
Do I stand a chance asking their CS to replace my Select flavor from blondie to PBC? Only blondie is on sale but I really want to try the PBC since this is my first Select. So far OL CS have been top notch when it comes to dealing with customers' requests. Not so sure about PES.
 
janson_kaniaz said:
Do I stand a chance asking their CS to replace my Select flavor from blondie to PBC? Only blondie is on sale but I really want to try the PBC since this is my first Select. So far OL CS have been top notch when it comes to dealing with customers' requests. Not so sure about PES.
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When did you place the order?
 
Woody said:
I thought that's why he left us here at AM... Without even saying goodbye.... Just... Gone......
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I knew he was studying, but didnt know he had completed med school. Good on him. Dude was knowledgeable
 
Would like to jump in on this insider and try the new alphamine out, lord knows I could use a quality energy drink to power me through my six days a week of work...but alas, no paycheck till the 15th.
 
That Carmaf guy is just honest to his opinion and makes it known what he comes to, great guy to have around on AM.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Would like to jump in on this insider and try the new alphamine out, lord knows I could use a quality energy drink to power me through my six days a week of work...but alas, no paycheck till the 15th.
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My gf is jumping last minute too, had her eyes on Sunrise Alphamine
 
Driven2lift said:
My gf is jumping last minute too, had her eyes on Sunrise Alphamine
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When does the insider end? Would like to still get it if it goes to the 15th but I doubt it lasts that long.
 
Driven2lift said:
I will look into the colourings used and get in touch here.
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Any word on this so I can place my order? I usually went with raspberry lemonade or cherry limeade for the OG, because neither had artificial coloring. Eyeing raspberry lemonade again for the new ver, but just want to confirm it still has no coloring before ordering. Would also consider other flavors if I can see the 'other ingredients' portion of the label for each.

Also, just making noise about this yet again, but would love to see an unflavored version. As simple as this new formula is, seems like an unflavored version would be great to mix into all sorts of other drinks. None of the included ingredients look to be all that unpleasant tasting, and should be nice and easy to mix into juice, a protein shake, a cup of tea, etc.

carmaf said:
2. I still think that the price point on the new Alphamine is an insult and a clear money grab. However, you caught me in an awkward situation, wherein I didn't agree with the principle of what you guys had done, but I have also been spending way WAY too much money on canned energy drinks
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I was thinking that too at first, but it does still have 84 servings, which is still huge relative to other options. That's like 30 cents per serving at insider price. Not that bad when you compare to RTD energy drinks or starbucks. Which, duh, is exactly the comparison made in the insider email, haha.
 
Here: warpyfunch

Synapsin said:
Strawberry Pina Coolada: Citric Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Acefulsame Potassium, Beet Root Concentrate

Cotton Candy: Citric Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Acefulsame Potassium, Beet Root Concentrate

Raspberry Lemonade: Citric Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Acefulsame Potassium, Beet Root Concentrate

Iced Tea: Citric Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Acefulsame Potassium

Sunrise: Citric Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Acefulsame Potassium, FD&C Yellow #6

Appletini: Citric Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Acefulsame Potassium, FD&C Yellow 5, FD&C Blue 1

Can't disclose theanine content
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Compared to an energy drink we win value for miles,

For those who want that.
 
Driven2lift said:
My man!

Looking forward to your thoughts, thanks for the support!
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So I've cracked them all open and I will say that I'm surprised that the iced tea is my favorite of the 3

Sunrise is good. It has an aroma that reminds me of banana runts but my only critique is that orange flavor wasn't bitey enough for me (8/10)

Cc is just as delicious as high volume (8/10)

Hands down, tea took the top spot for my wife and I. Smells great, tastes like Lipton's and is extremely refreshing (9/10)

As far as energy goes, I've accepted that it's not going to be like the original and that's OK... 2 scoops (250mgs of caffeine) is far cheaper than a monster (~160mg). Now, I will probably spend less money on energy drinks and carry a tub in my backpack to shoot some in between classes

kbayne said:
You must have got the super duper fast shipping method huh?
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Nope, regular shipping to California. You guys have always done work getting those insider packages out
 
Just got mine today!

Money, where are you ordering your syringes from? I think I'm going to shoot mine at work between meetings

I kid I kid :)
 
still salty some of my favorite supps were changed, but i must say that the chocolate select is supremely underrated. best chocolate protein powder of all time, imo
 
Big Papi said:
still salty some of my favorite supps were changed, but i must say that the chocolate select is supremely underrated. best chocolate protein powder of all time, imo
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I'm legit the only person who agrees lol. I think it tastes like hershey when I get the water amount just right (not much)
 
804 said:
Just got mine today!

Money, where are you ordering your syringes from? I think I'm going to shoot mine at work between meetings

I kid I kid :)
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Haha I don't think I've ever ordered syringes ...

I've been lucky enough to find a bunch by the dumpster outside the 7/11 whenever I need some
 
I would say PES select chocolate is definitely my favourite chocolate protein. But not my overall- currently that's select CPBC
 
CPBC is forever in my top 5, still switching places with #1 with a few others
 
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