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GDA for carb cycling

Hockeyaus33

Hockeyaus33

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Im on a cut and am trying carb cyling + caloric deficit. Should I use a GDA? Which one is the best and how/when would I dose it
Carb cycle looks like this

Sat- high carb
Sun- low carb
Mon- low carb
Tues- low carb
Wed- high carb
Thurs-low carb
Fri- low carb
 
You could look into SlinMax, its one of the only fully open GDAs available, completely proven ingredients at full dosages and can be found for a pretty good deal. Pretty much every sinlge review has been stellar except for 1 single review. Also pretty unique because it contains 750mg Agmatine per serving, 1500mg/day so should keep you nice and pumped throughout the day ontop of the GDA effect!

I would do 2 caps twice per day on your high carb days and 1 cap up to 4 times per day(just as many carb meals as you have that day) on your low carb days!

Here is just a few, but as you can see there is a common theme, leaning out and feeling pumped all day!

iThrow said:
Other Miscellaneous features 5/5 The fact that I was able to eat anything I want, not get fat(er), have a great nights sleep, and look and feel pumped all the time makes this an easy 5/5 I also love that it is just 4 caps per day and you can space them out anyway you want. Personally i tried it all and id have to say i love 2 caps with my biggest carb meal and 2 right before bed fasted. Without a doubt my favorite GDA i have ever taken. If anyone has any questions please feel free to ask and I will elaborate further since I feel i missed some information throughout the log i cant think of.
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john.patterson said:
Final Rating: 5/5

Slinmax is a very well rounded nutrient paritioning product that really gave me the freedom to eat more carbs and stay lean. I felt that I was able to be far more flexible with my diet while using Slinmax while not having to worry about excessive weight gain. Granted, I did overdo it a few times with my diet during this log, but for the most part Slinmax was able to keep me in check and keep me looking lean and mean, while continuing to gain size and strength. I was very pleased with this product and I would definitely recommend it!
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money0351 said:
Effectiveness: In my log, I noted both food pumps as well as overall a full an vascular look in the month I used Slinmax. I was so impressed, I lined up another bottle of it to take in order to continue my run. Another thing I will note is that I look like I have leaned out quite a bit in these 5 weeks. My shoulders have became more vascular and my waist has tightened up a bit.
This is interesting mainly because two reasons: 1) I did not lose much scale weight (~1lb given normal fluctuations) and 2) no real changes were made other than slightly increasing periworkout carbohydrates.
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nfmejia0486 said:
Final Rating: 5/5

Slinmax is a very well rounded nutrient paritioning product that really gave me the freedom to eat more carbs and not fear them. I felt that I was able to be far more flexible with my diet while using Slinmax while not having to worry about excessive weight gain. I granted had cheat meals once a week in which i doubled my carb intake to 450-550 g, but still saw no bloating or water retention even on these ramp up days. While I didn't see any reduction in weight on the scale I also didn't see any increase at all.
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Doing a very similar carb cycling plan with slinmax right now and loving it. I'm backloading those carbs as well, so even the medium days dinners are pretty carb-a-locious! Slinmax has been clutch!

Also...can't wait to get into Defuse when my Calories come back up and shtuff gets realz!
 
Came in to say slinmax but it seems Adizzle got you covered on it.

SlinMax contgains both Na-R-Ala and Berberine which are two very good ingredients that help regulate the release of insulin and make the carbs have less of an impact on your body. Have you tried any GDA's yet?
 
Quads_of_Stee said:
Came in to say slinmax but it seems Adizzle got you covered on it.

SlinMax contgains both Na-R-Ala and Berberine which are two very good ingredients that help regulate the release of insulin and make the carbs have less of an impact on your body. Have you tried any GDA's yet?
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I have never used a GDA before.
 
GDA's can be beneficial. GDA's would be best to be taken pre-workout or pre-bed (with larger carb meals). Or you could roll with a bulk NA-R-ALA as your GDA to keep things basic. Berberine you could take upward to 500mg with starchy carb meals or upward to 1000mg if you included a massive free meal.

I remember Mr Cooper quoted this for NA-R-ALA
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300mg Na-R-ALA + 1g Agmatine + 1g ALCAR in the AM with a high carb meal.
300mg Na-R-ALA + 1g ALCAR in the PM with a high carb meal."

Since you only have 2 high days, it may not be worth the investment. You could possibly put that money towards Forskolin, Yohimbine, or other fatloss ingredients, but it really is personal preference.
 
If you're cycling, it doesn't make much sense to dose something daily... you'd be better off with just acute doses. For me, slinmax was ok, but only after dosing daily and after a buildup period. My personal favorites for acute benefits are Recompadrol (RIP), SNS Glycophase (prob the cheapest option), and AP.

Bulk agamatine (SNS makes this as well and it can be found very cheap as theres always a sale) is also good and you could use it daily for its gda and regular benefits as well
 
Tylerclee said:
Anyone tried slin-trol max?
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Never even heard of it... Just looked it up. It's like one of the OG gda's ha. Where'd you do that up from? Everything I saw was from like 2012 or earlier.

That said, the formula is eh. There's many better options today (see most of those listed above)
 
Instead of making a new thread ill post this question here

I am 225 lb and my maintance calories is about 3200-3500 depending on the workout I do. Based on that info and the carb cycle schedule I have in the OP, is 150-200g of carbs considered low? Before this carb cycle I was taking in about 400 g of carbs daily on my bulk.

Also, how many carbs then should I be taking in on my "high" carb days?

Thanks
 
Hockeyaus33 said:
Instead of making a new thread ill post this question here

I am 225 lb and my maintance calories is about 3200-3500 depending on the workout I do. Based on that info and the carb cycle schedule I have in the OP, is 150-200g of carbs considered low? Before this carb cycle I was taking in about 400 g of carbs daily on my bulk.

Also, how many carbs then should I be taking in on my "high" carb days?

Thanks
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The "low carb" days will vary per person. If your normal intake is 400g, then yeah 150g would be low for you. I always approach it with high, moderate, and low carb days. My moderate carb days are my normal carb intake days. I shoot for the 40p/40c/20f macro breakdown, so I usually do 40% of my total daily calories from carbs on a moderate carb day. From there I increase and decrease by 100-200g for high and low days depending on my calorie intake.

It will take you some time to learn how your body responds to carb cycling, and you'll be able to determine what feels right after a few weeks if you are consistent with it. If you're cutting, I'm assuming you're going to be in a deficit. Have you determined your daily calorie intake for starting your cut?
 
Thank you for the info!

Yes, I started my cut last week on thursday right at 3500 cals (the high end of my maintance) because I was at 3800-4000 cals during my bulk, with the exception of monday which is my off day from the gym and on that day I lowered my cals to 2800 and only took in about 100 g of carbs. I noticed that on the fourth day of my cut I rapidly lost 4 lb of body weight (went from 228lb down to 224 lb) so I bumped my cals back up to 3400 because im trying to shoot for a 1-2 lb loss a week. Looking back I think the 4lb might have just been water weight since I significantly cut carbs and also started drinking a half gallon more water a day. In about two weeks from today I plan on being at about 2900-3000 cals per day
 
Yes water weight from less carbs. I recently cut and lost about 4lb on day 4.
3500 calories = 1lb roughly
 
Hockeyaus33 said:
Instead of making a new thread ill post this question here

I am 225 lb and my maintance calories is about 3200-3500 depending on the workout I do. Based on that info and the carb cycle schedule I have in the OP, is 150-200g of carbs considered low? Before this carb cycle I was taking in about 400 g of carbs daily on my bulk.

Also, how many carbs then should I be taking in on my "high" carb days?

Thanks
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I always reference a specific article when it comes to carb cycling. Read it and it will offer you a starting point. I follow this and have been for years now. Not right to the T, I modified it for myself.

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In terms of a GDA, I have to echo SlinMax for the simple fact that, in this thread and other similar threads, people often suggest 3 ingredients. Berberine, Na-R-Ala and Agmatine. SlinMax contains all three at generous doses. I personally carb cycle and when I use SlinMax, I do not feel bloated or even full after a carb heavy meal. I feel like I can eat more, even when the meal has more than 100 grams of carbs.
 
Just throwing this out there ( and I could be way off) but could a GDA possibly be counterproductive on a carb cycling diet? I only say this because the higher carb days would increase leptin and a GDA could maybe negate that. Or would the whole leptin thing not be an issue since there are always at least some carbs in the diet?
 
Glycophase and Recompadrol have been my favorite. Was not a fan of AP.
 
AntM1564 said:
I always reference a specific article when it comes to carb cycling. Read it and it will offer you a starting point. I follow this and have been for years now. Not right to the T, I modified it for myself.

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Great article. This is the one I always reference for carb cycling as well. Brings back memories (it's a really old article).
 
Try carb cycling without a GDA first and see what you notice, after 2-3 weeks id suggest adding one in. You might find you respond well without one.

If you do opt for one, I have found that glycophase works pretty damn well on a cut. Be mindful that some GDAs will block carb absorption so it not work in your favor
 
Jiigzz said:
Try carb cycling without a GDA first and see what you notice, after 2-3 weeks id suggest adding one in. You might find you respond well without one.

If you do opt for one, I have found that glycophase works pretty damn well on a cut. Be mindful that some GDAs will block carb absorption so it not work in your favor
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^^^THIS! Carb cycling is a different beast and takes some trial and error for certain folks. It's best to ease into carb cycling to gauge how your body reacts before you start throwing tons of supplements down the hatch.
 
As plenty of others have said, carb cycling takes some trial and error.

I would use Glycophase as it's inexpensive and effective.
 
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