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Best Natural T-Boosting ingredient?

jt75 said:
Are you saying that it won't or hasn't ever worked for anyone or just yourself?
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Well that depends on who you ask. The ones that didn't run bloods might say it worked for them. The ones that actually did the before and after bloodwork will tell you it doesn't work.
 
The few that have run bloodwork states it has done nothing for estrogen, and it seems to be more of a cortisol controller.
 
Volvo140G said:
Came in to say LJ100, among the many I've tried. It's my go to from here on out, along with DTP v2 (not single ingredient, obviously, but well worth a look)
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I don't understand why DTP V2 doesn't get more love....I have tried nearly all of the test-boosters to come out in the last 10 years and I keep going back to DTP V2. VERY UNDERRATED PRODUCT, IMO!!!
 
ELROCK said:
Well that depends on who you ask. The ones that didn't run bloods might say it worked for them. The ones that actually did the before and after bloodwork will tell you it doesn't work.
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This has been what I've seen. Haven't seen any bloodwork that suggests it control estrogen in humans. At dosages employed by most.
 
haiz69 said:
This has been what I've seen. Haven't seen any bloodwork that suggests it control estrogen in humans. At dosages employed by most.
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Interesting. I tried searching for blood work, but didn't see any. Can you link me to some? This is the first I've heard of bloodwork actually not showing any effect on test or estrogen in the standard dose of 50-100mg/daily.
 
Daycrawler said:
Interesting. I tried searching for blood work, but didn't see any. Can you link me to some? This is the first I've heard of bloodwork actually not showing any effect on test or estrogen in the standard dose of 50-100mg/daily.
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It's been a while since I have seen it, but I'll see if I can track it down.
 
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If you look at various posts, some people suggest tongkat ali, boron, 3,4 dinval and even ZMA, although that can be debated. AlphaMax XT contains most of the ingredients listed in this thread and at relevant doses. Well worth the money and it can be viewed as an all in one product.
 
Out of everything mentioned in here, the patented form of tongkat ali LJ100, is by far the ingredient with the most positive data, in clinical studies, in humans. Even of some of the other single ingredients mentioned here, if they do have clinical data, it's not as compelling.
 
Segansational said:
Out of everything mentioned in here, the patented form of tongkat ali LJ100, is by far the ingredient with the most positive data, in clinical studies, in humans. Even of some of the other single ingredients mentioned here, if they do have clinical data, it's not as compelling.
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LJ100 is definately a quality extract, but I wouldn't say it's the only legitimate/useful tongkat ali extract. For example, there are many studies using Physta (0.8-1.5% eurycomamone).

As for ingredients that have research supporting their use here, I'd say that the following are my personal favorites:
-ashwagandha (standardized for withanolides)
-tongkat ali (standardized for eurycomanone)
-forskolin

Besides just boosting test, these ingredients have research supporting other benefits, ranging from increased LBM and strength and improved body composition to reduced stress and anxiety.

Alphamax XT has all three of these ingredients at effective, research supported doses, as well as some other nice ingredients (those three just happen to be my favorites).
 
muscleupcrohn said:
LJ100 is definately a quality extract, but I wouldn't say it's the only legitimate/useful tongkat ali extract. For example, there are many studies using Physta (0.8-1.5% eurycomamone).

As for ingredients that have research supporting their use here, I'd say that the following are my personal favorites:
-ashwagandha (standardized for withanolides)
-tongkat ali (standardized for eurycomanone)
-forskolin

Besides just boosting test, these ingredients have research supporting other benefits, ranging from increased LBM and strength and improved body composition to reduced stress and anxiety.

Alphamax XT has all three of these ingredients at effective, research supported doses, as well as some other nice ingredients (those three just happen to be my favorites).
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Started with Alphamax XT yesterday so will see how it goes as a general well being supplement in next 4 weeks.

I'm surprised (except reps pimping it out hard and even they not try it yet), that no feedback here or any log for it cause ingredient's list is what made me have a try at it and it's being sold for over 2 weeks already.
 
Started Alphamax XT yesterday aswell and will run it for 8 weeks. Excited to see if I can get a nice recomping effect with it as the ingredients look as good as any I've seen in a supplement.
 
ahh123 said:
Started with Alphamax XT yesterday so will see how it goes as a general well being supplement in next 4 weeks.

I'm surprised (except reps pimping it out hard and even they not try it yet), that no feedback here or any log for it cause ingredient's list is what made me have a try at it and it's being sold for over 2 weeks already.
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If you look at my post history, you can see that I've been a HUGE fan of ashwagandha for a long time; it's one of my favorite ingredients and a staple for me. Tongkat ali is also my favorite ingredient for increasing libido, and I've had success with non-LJ100 extracts (not saying that LJ100 is bad, just that there are other quality extracts), and forskolin has promising research and has been a forum favorite for a while now. I've also been a fan of (and have been using) ferulic acid for over a year now. So yeah, I guess it's still pimping, but I am speaking from experience when I talk about a lot of these ingredients; it just works out nice when you're able to rep a supplement with good ingredients. :)
 
Alphamax XT is open label with plenty of proven ingredients that most people have tried either solo, or in other products. Of course we are excited about the formula, it's top notch.

That new 2017 Camero ZL1 isn't out yet, but I 100% guarantee I'd love to have one lol. And I own mustangs.
 
ahh123 said:
Started with Alphamax XT yesterday so will see how it goes as a general well being supplement in next 4 weeks.

I'm surprised (except reps pimping it out hard and even they not try it yet), that no feedback here or any log for it cause ingredient's list is what made me have a try at it and it's being sold for over 2 weeks already.
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The XT version was just released, give it 4-6 weeks before people can comment on the product.

I loved original Alphamax, but this looks to be better.
 
p5sky said:
The XT version was just released, give it 4-6 weeks before people can comment on the product.

I loved original Alphamax, but this looks to be better.
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I definitely agree with the bolded part. The reason why I applied to become a rep for Performax was because I logged AlphaMax and enjoyed my run with it. As much as I love the old formula, this is a better formula. When the reps saw the label for the first time, I think we all felt similar to that.
 
Pre sales started 2 weeks ago but retailers just received units last week, so its only been shipping to customers this past week or so. Feedback will start coming in 4-6 weeks.

We also have a loggin op in the company promo section!
 
Take clomid from a research site
 
Tongkat Ali is does not increase testosterone where it is within normal limits. There is not a single herbal preparation that would do it. In healthy people, which is important. With herbal supplements you can somewhat reduce cortisol and increase libido, but does not upgrade testosterone if he was OK. All active substances with the evidence base, sooner or later fall into the rank of medicines and sold through pharmacies or the black market. Exclusion from the part comprise only prohormones.
 
Working list
Tongkat Ali 400mg
Funegreek 1g+
Boron 6mg+

Not sure list
Fadogia ( I tried about 1.3g of omega t force for about 12 days but I didn't feel any benefits at all, maybe not suited for me)
Forskohlii ( today was my first dose 500mg I'll continue using it for 14 days and I'll update)
Vitamin MK4 ( I started taking 1mg I'll update)

Maybe good but I didn't try list
Bulbine
Al
 
Vidosick said:
Tongkat Ali is does not increase testosterone where it is within normal limits. There is not a single herbal preparation that would do it. In healthy people, which is important. With herbal supplements you can somewhat reduce cortisol and increase libido, but does not upgrade testosterone if he was OK. All active substances with the evidence base, sooner or later fall into the rank of medicines and sold through pharmacies or the black market. Exclusion from the part comprise only prohormones.
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lol...hormones in livestock, mainly estrogen used to fatten cattle and pigs, who the hell knows what they put in factory raised chicken....plastic containers used in microwaves, now they are saying even plastic water bottles can break down and raise estrogen in turn decreasing test. certain medications can lower test, and can you really be sure about the chemicals being used in water plants???

define healthy.....
 
Tongkat Ali boosts the testosterone level of men in their fifties who have low testosterone production – by a small amount.
_ergo-log.com/tongkat-ali-raises-testosterone-levels-in-over-fifties.html
 
I read a lot about Fadogia, but I don't seem to find a solo Fadogia that works.... Fundamental nutrition Fadogia users what can you say?
 
619sss said:
I read a lot about Fadogia, but I don't seem to find a solo Fadogia that works.... Fundamental nutrition Fadogia users what can you say?
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Apparently FN uses the same source as Omega T Force.

I loved Omega T Force.
 
Daycrawler said:
Apparently FN uses the same source as Omega T Force.

I loved Omega T Force.
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I read a lot from users of omega t force they say it does not work much, and I say the same thing I saw in pharmaresourcesint that they had Fadogia But im not sure if I'm going to buy from them. It's stem powder
 
619sss said:
I read a lot from users of omega t force they say it does not work much, and I say the same thing I saw in pharmaresourcesint that they had Fadogia But im not sure if I'm going to buy from them. It's stem powder
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My blood work showed an increase of 70-80 ng/mL for Free Testosterone so works for me
 
619sss said:
I read a lot about Fadogia, but I don't seem to find a solo Fadogia that works.... Fundamental nutrition Fadogia users what can you say?
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the best fadogia I ever used was I-force fadogia-500, that stuff was incredible...since I-force quit making it I haven't found anything even close...t-force was a waste of money for me, not even close to what I got from fadogia-500.
 
619sss said:
Nice, test is affected by everything, mood, stress, food, sx and training.
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Yeah, 70-80 points is just normal fluctuation that happens daily. But, I do appreciate anyone that runs bloods. Sometimes I feel I am the only one who runs them. Most supp companies don't even bother with running bloods during their testing.
 
In terms of stuff with a lot of clinical data I like:

KSM-66 ashwaganda
100:1 Tongkat Ali
Boron (though I've noticed increased irritability maybe due to estradiol and some joint dryness)
 
Justlooking5 said:
In terms of stuff with a lot of clinical data I like:

KSM-66 ashwaganda
100:1 Tongkat Ali
Boron (though I've noticed increased irritability maybe due to estradiol and some joint dryness)
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Great list right there.

Alphamax XT is packing all 3 of those, with 200:1 Tongkat Ali. And of course all the other components.
 
ELROCK said:
Yeah, 70-80 points is just normal fluctuation that happens daily. But, I do appreciate anyone that runs bloods. Sometimes I feel I am the only one who runs them. Most supp companies don't even bother with running bloods during their testing.
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This was an increase in free test in pg/mL units. Not ng/mL I misspoke earlier.

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Daycrawler said:
This was an increase in free test in pg/mL units. Not ng/mL I misspoke earlier.

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That is a decent improvement then since it was free T numbers. I am a big fan of Fadogia. Thanks for sharing!
 
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