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Best Natural T-Boosting ingredient?

Eradicater

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What is in your opinion the best natural(legal) testosterone booster ingredient? (ingredient you can find in a supplement from like GNC etc.)

Tribulous?
DAA?
ZMA?

Any others?
 
Zma....never really heard much about that being very potent. Maybe for a vitamin definciency of one of the ingredients included it would help. Trib....i think u have to MEGA dose it from some of the things ive read but i doubt you'll see a lot.
DAA.... Im trying it now. But any of the things your looking to get into i don't think ANYTHING has gear-like effects no matter what. I think daa could help to optimize an older guys levels or libido depending on situation....but a guy with normal ranges i doubt would feel much....MAYBE from daa. But trib and zma i doubtfully think would do much in terms of radiating test noticeably.
 
OL LJ100. Concentrated extract of Tongkat Ali. Modulates SHBG and maximizes free test levels. Huge libido boost as well.
 
As Jebrook mentioned, Tongkat Ali is one of the only ingredients with clinical research in humans
to show it helps offset hypogonadism

I would also recommend BLR Viron as well..

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Are you looking only for single ingredient? If you search the forums you will see a lot of love for Tongkat Ali and 3,4 Divanill.

The new Alphamax XT contains both Tongkat Ali and 3,4 divanill. As well as Boron, L-Dopa, F95, etc. It is a very well rounded product, providing full doses of those ingredients.

It can be found on presale for a great price as well.
 
^^^ Haha thats funny stuff right there.

But i would give my vote to BLR Viron. If you want a cheap stack I would go with tribulus and fenugreek.
 
^^^ Haha thats funny stuff right there.

But i would give my vote to BLR Viron. If you want a cheap stack I would go with tribulus and fenugreek.

Funny, yes... but apparently true :)

Watching sexually arousing films (porn), or just being sexually aroused, can increase testosterone secretion in men[7][8] watching 4 minutes of erotica can also increase subsequent performance on a 3 rep squat.[9]

The increase when sexually aroused is minor and transient, with 25.2+/-6.3nmol/l in the sexually aroused group and 22.2+/-5.6 nmol/l in control. The arousal does not need to be great, as testosterone increases are seen even after social interaction with attractive females.[10][11] After a 5 minute conversation with an attractive woman, male testosterone levels can increase up to 30% from baseline (relative to an increase of 13% for conversing with males).[11] This degree of testosterone increase is unlikely to exert any anabolic effect on muscle tissue, but can contribute to neurology.

Interestingly, the level of interest females show does not seem to matter in regards to testosterone increases (as measured by flirtatious v. aloof confederates) nor does the female's perception of how the male may have reacted to their advances.[10][11]

It should be noted that although the testosterone increase from sexual perception diminishes shortly after sexual appetite is diminished, it is not reduced; Ejaculation does not adversely affect testosterone levels.

Seo Y, et al Plasma concentration of prolactin, testosterone might be associated with brain response to visual erotic stimuli in healthy heterosexual males . Psychiatry Investig. (2009)

Stoléru SG, et al LH pulsatile secretion and testosterone blood levels are influenced by sexual arousal in human males . Psychoneuroendocrinology. (1993)

Cook CJ, Crewther BT Changes in salivary testosterone concentrations and subsequent voluntary squat performance following the presentation of short video clips . Horm Behav. (2012)

Roney JR, Lukaszewski AW, Simmons ZL Rapid endocrine responses of young men to social interactions with young women . Horm Behav. (2007)

Behavioral and hormonal responses of men to brief interactions with women

:D :D
 
Personal experience: generally for muscle building purposes, not only test

Legit TA
Boron at 10mg+ a day, dirt cheap
Forskolin at 100mg a day
Homemade Pine Pollen tincture
Homemade maral root tincture
Ecdysterone (Turkesterone or overdosing cheap Suma root or Cyanotis Vaga)
Soy Lecithin Granules
 
Single Ingredient: Quality Tongkat Ali. Lj100 is great, but there are some other quality extracts as well.
 
Are you looking only for single ingredient? If you search the forums you will see a lot of love for Tongkat Ali and 3,4 Divanill.

The new Alphamax XT contains both Tongkat Ali and 3,4 divanill. As well as Boron, L-Dopa, F95, etc. It is a very well rounded product, providing full doses of those ingredients.

It can be found on presale for a great price as well.

3,4 divanill is an anti androgen.
 
In the sense that urtica doica can lower the conversion of testosterone to DHT sure however its been shown in vitro to increase free testosterone as well as in humans in a pilot study done at Wright State University showing an increase in Free Testosterone to a stastically significant degree, an average increase of 98%, in healthy adult males. It has years of positive anecdotal feedback with countless bloodworks proving its effeciency to increase free testosterone.
 
Came in to say LJ100, among the many I've tried. It's my go to from here on out, along with DTP v2 (not single ingredient, obviously, but well worth a look)
 
Longjack aka tongkat ali

tribulus- may help libido that is it
daa- pretty worthless esp if its not sodium daa
zma-also kinda worthless for test
 
In the sense that urtica doica can lower the conversion of testosterone to DHT sure however its been shown in vitro to increase free testosterone as well as in humans in a pilot study done at Wright State University showing an increase in Free Testosterone to a stastically significant degree, an average increase of 98%, in healthy adult males. It has years of positive anecdotal feedback with countless bloodworks proving its effeciency to increase free testosterone.

I really like alphamax, ive taken it twice and will be trying the new formula, there was just a study i saw stating that 3,4 divanill reduced dht via 5ar inhibition. The reduction in dht causes a boost in test and this is good, but dht is an important male hormone as well. Not trying to knock alphamax, really like it, i just feel like there may be a better ingredient you guys could use to lower shbg instead of the 3,4 divanill. Have you guys ever considered putting longjack in alphamax?
 
Yep, that lowering of DHT was exactly what I referred to in my post and should not be significant enough to effect any androgenic effects as it seems to be fairly specific to prostate and scalp tissues.

New Alphamax Xt now contains Tongkat Ali(longjack) std. to 2% eurycomanone which is the main quassinoid responsible for testosterone production as well asashwagandha(5%), boron citrate, DHAA and Fuerlic Acid, making it a far more complete formula then the original!
 
Yep, that lowering of DHT was exactly what I referred to in my post and should not be significant enough to effect any androgenic effects as it seems to be fairly specific to prostate and scalp tissues.

New Alphamax Xt now contains Tongkat Ali(longjack) std. to 2% eurycomanone which is the main quassinoid responsible for testosterone production as well asashwagandha(5%), boron citrate, DHAA and Fuerlic Acid, making it a far more complete formula then the original!

Ah okay well that makes sense to me. Very excited to give the new formula a try...thinking of stacking with LGI's new test booster and ARA lol, gonna be badass
 
3,4 divinil.. I get mine from testabolan. Tongkat Ali if you get the right kind, is legit also. Both help free up bound testosterone.
 
In the sense that urtica doica can lower the conversion of testosterone to DHT sure however its been shown in vitro to increase free testosterone as well as in humans in a pilot study done at Wright State University showing an increase in Free Testosterone to a stastically significant degree, an average increase of 98%, in healthy adult males. It has years of positive anecdotal feedback with countless bloodworks proving its effeciency to increase free testosterone.

Can you link me to this study? Aside from the Thermolife analysis of a ton of 3,4 Div not being as pure as claimed by a lot of places, there's very little data on it for Testosterone.

Urtica dioica for treatment of benign prostatic hyperplasia: a prospective, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover study.

Serum PSA and testosterone levels were unchanged in both groups.

I looked on your product page for references, checked PubMed and tried Google - no go on the Wright State study.
 
Can you link me to this study? Aside from the Thermolife analysis of a ton of 3,4 Div not being as pure as claimed by a lot of places, there's very little data on it for Testosterone.



I looked on your product page for references, checked PubMed and tried Google - no go on the Wright State study.

It was a study done on the original Mass FX which contained I believe just 2 ingredients, Urtica Doica Extract and 25r-doil, its very unlikely IMO that 25r-doil had any sort of testosterone boosting effect so I would attribute a majority of the results to Urtica Doica. I pulled up the abstract and while there was a stastically signifcant increase in muscular strength I was mistaken on the fact that they stated the increase in free testosterone was not statistically significant, haven't looked at it in years, however in the full text I believe it states a 98% increase in free-testosterone over placebo. What is interesting about this study was the placebo group noticed drastic drops in free + total testosterone and I believe the authors attributed it to the training regimen that was prescribed which essentially led to over training and a subsequent drop in testosterone levels, however the MFX group doing the same training actually showed an improvement in free + total testosterone so its likely to assume that if over training was not involved that the results may have been more significant.

From the abstract:
"Using ANCOVA, the groups were significantly different for the Bench Press outcome; whereas using the independent samples t-test, the two groups were significantly different for Bench Press and Free Testosterone"

"Mean difference (Post-Pre) in total and free testosterone concentrations exhibited apparent increases in the Mass FX group, in contrast to Placebo in which reductions in both mean difference total and free testosterone concentrations were observed."
 
Thanks, link?

I think I found it, but hopefully at Adizzle1 can confirm for you.

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2. (-)-3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran (DVTHF)
(-)-3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran (DVTHF) is an extract from the stinging nettle
root (Schöttner et al., 1997). DVTHF exerts its effects by acting on testosterone transport
proteins. Testosterone in the human body exists either in a free circulating form or in
inactive form bound to transport proteins. The transport proteins to which testosterone
binds are albumin and sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) (Neischlag et al., 2004).
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DVTHF binds with very high affinity to SHBG (Ka = 3.2 +/- 1.7 x 10(6)M-1) (Schöttner
et al., 1998). It is hypothesized that by binding to SHBG, DVTHF will increase the
concentration of free testosterone. Due to the anabolic nature of testosterone, a higher
concentration of free testosterone should translate into enhanced exercise performance
manifested by an increase in muscle mass and strength. Also, it is hypothesized that
DVTHF might positively influence body composition by increasing muscle mass and
reducing body fat levels. This positive influence on muscle tissue is due to the higher rate
of protein synthesis that occurs due to more availability of free testosterone binding to the
androgen receptors on skeletal muscle tissue. Studies have shown that DVTHF binds to
SHBG, however no studies have been conducted to show that more free testosterone will
be available.
Notable benefits associated with the plant in which DVTHF is extracted include
effective treatment protocols for benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) (Schöttner et al.,
1997). Another benefit of Urtica dioica extracts is its blood glucose lowering effect. It
has been used as a hypoglycemic for centuries in Persia as it has been noted in writings of
Avicenna (981-1037), a prominent Persian medical scholar (Farzami et al., 2003). Its
therapeutic blood sugar balancing effects are a result of enhancement of insulin secretion
by Islets of Langerhans (Farzami et. al., 2003) and by reduction of intestinal glucose
absorption (Bnouham et. al., 2003). In addition to its hypoglycemic effects, Urtica dioica
is used in traditional medicine to treat hypertension (Testai et al., 2002). Urtica dioica’s
antihypertensive effects are attributed to vasorelaxing effects due to an upregulation of
nitric oxide production in endothelial cells (Testai et al., 2002). Finally, Urtica dioica
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exhibits antioxidant, antimicrobial, antiulcer, and analgesic properties (Gulcin et al.,
2004).
 
Yep, that lowering of DHT was exactly what I referred to in my post and should not be significant enough to effect any androgenic effects as it seems to be fairly specific to prostate and scalp tissues.

New Alphamax Xt now contains Tongkat Ali(longjack) std. to 2% eurycomanone which is the main quassinoid responsible for testosterone production as well asashwagandha(5%), boron citrate, DHAA and Fuerlic Acid, making it a far more complete formula then the original!

Original Alphamax I didn't want to try cause of arimistane but this XT version I ordered cause of new ingredients added - mainly tongkat that my body responds greatly if quality extract is used.

I used different products containing many ingredients you have in this XT version that worked to some degree and I've been recommending on this forum to use tongkat + AI so hopefully this DHAA will make this XT work longer (than 10 days then back to baseline like with most OTC test boosters I've tried).

How come no logs yet here for Alphamax XT which is weird to start selling product with 0 logs?
 
I like Tongkat Ali.
My experience suggests Tribulus helps with libido and quality of erections, but that's all it has going for it. DAA did nothing for me. ZMA is good for sleep, maybe.
 
my 4th day of 3gm daa.
Gotta say i dunno im not one for placebo effect but im feeling much more aggressive and sexually interested. Which has been my biggest issue since being given my initial blood results of low t. I just had blood work done again before taking daa so ill what it was last Saturday. Going to run daa core a few weeks and get blood drawn again to compare. But.....looking the edge im feeling for sure
 
alphamax was the best ive used, not single ingredient but well versed. dtpv2 is great as well
 
HAVENT SEEN IT, TOOK TIME OFF OF THE INDUSTRY...NOT UP TO DATE WITH THINGS

Welcome back!

Here's the label, think you will enjoy the changes.
 

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Original Alphamax I didn't want to try cause of arimistane but this XT version I ordered cause of new ingredients added - mainly tongkat that my body responds greatly if quality extract is used.

I used different products containing many ingredients you have in this XT version that worked to some degree and I've been recommending on this forum to use tongkat + AI so hopefully this DHAA will make this XT work longer (than 10 days then back to baseline like with most OTC test boosters I've tried).

How come no logs yet here for Alphamax XT which is weird to start selling product with 0 logs?

Anyone currently logging this?

Not yet. I doubt anyone has received their order for it yet. It was only up for presale last week. However, we are going to open up a logging opportunity on Monday!
 
Fadogia, bulbine, arimistane are my top 3


Not yet. I doubt anyone has received their order for it yet. It was only up for presale last week. However, we are going to open up a logging opportunity on Monday!

Nice. I will be giving the new one a try in the near future.
 
Fadogia, bulbine, arimistane are my top 3




Nice. I will be giving the new one a try in the near future.

Fadogia and bulbine are good suggestions as well as tongkat ali/LJ. But, arimistane is not going to do anything to estrogen levels and damn sure will not do anything for T levels.
 
Fadogia and bulbine are good suggestions as well as tongkat ali/LJ. But, arimistane is not going to do anything to estrogen levels and damn sure will not do anything for T levels.

A suicidal AI doesn't do anything to estrogen levels?
 
Elrock has there been new info released on arimistane that you want to enlighten us with?
 
A suicidal AI doesn't do anything to estrogen levels?

Please get your bloodwork while using arimistane then report back. You will see this particular ingredient Will not effect you hormone panel in any way. I have tried it many times because I "felt" like it was lowering my estrogen levels. Sadly, I was wrong in thinking the slight leaning effect and joint pain it caused was not related to my e2 numbers.
 
It's been studied a lot I'm guessing to be included as an ingredient in countless supplements.
 
Elrock has there been new info released on arimistane that you want to enlighten us with?

I don't have new studies on the particular ingredient. But, I will tell you from real world experience it is not a viable AI.
 
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