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brundel said:
Lol a little creaky is ok. Its the brutal joint pain I cant handle. The dose was set just under the point where most experienced issues.
Unfortunately some are sensitive.
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I'm no stranger to these issues, plus now that I think about it the weather is starting to change which can have the same effect for me. I would be tempted to say it was just the weather but it got significantly better when I cut back the dose so it's gotta be a combo of the two. I'm certainly getting my moneys worth, another stellar and strong product Brundel.
 
I'm using 1 cap a day to combat any nipple sensitivity from a triumphalis/4andro td run and its been solid so far. Halo lit my nips up like the 4th of July so I figured id preemptively use letrone on weakly androgenic compounds like triumph. I'm gonna roll thru pct maintaining my 1 cap dosage....
 
In my current PCT I feel 1 cap with 2 pumps of Exotherm is working great, keeping me dry and lean whilst eating slightly over maintenance calories and doing no cardio just heavy weight sessions 6-7 times per week.
 
My strength is also maintaining or even improving which is another major benefit. I cannot wait until i add in some Viron to further boost and free up test.
 
paul56778 said:
My strength is also maintaining or even improving which is another major benefit.
I cannot wait until i add in some Viron to further boost and free up test.
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Viron will make a nice addition to Letrone :biggthumpup:
 
Can you think of any other natty test boosting products that would work well, i am staying away from X-Gels and ARA.
 
Would Letrone be a good choice of ai for a Dmz / dermaTr3st cycle? And if Arimacare Pro is stacked too would that be overkill?
 
coryneto said:
Would Letrone be a good choice of ai for a Dmz / dermaTr3st cycle? And if Arimacare Pro is stacked too would that be overkill?
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I wouldn't advise anything less than a true pharma AI for a compound like Trest, it aromatizes far too potently to risk anything less.
 
coryneto said:
Would Letrone be a good choice of ai for a Dmz / dermaTr3st cycle? And if Arimacare Pro is stacked too would that be overkill?
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I think it would be enough. Both of those are pretty wet though so keep an eye on estro symptoms and up dose if needed.
 
Thanks for the rapid response guys. But now I am confused, cuz one of you said it's fine and the other said it's not. Again thanks for the reply.
 
coryneto said:
Thanks for the rapid response guys. But now I am confused, cuz one of you said it's fine and the other said it's not. Again thanks for the reply.
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People have used it during gear cycles and said it worked yet there is no "paper evidence" saying this so.....well yea that's it.
 
coryneto said:
Alright, got your point. Will give it a try, thanks
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FWIW, if youre going to experiment, have a contingency plan in place. Its a bit more of an initial expense, but if the OTC doesn't work the way you wanted then you have immediate backup. Hopefully this wont happen, but if it did, you are going to want the other pharma option anyway.

I'm running trest at the moment myself, have 2 bottles of Letrone but also have some exem in case its needed. If I don't end up needing it, cool, it wont go to waste (Ill use it another time down the track I'm sure).
 
coryneto said:
Thanks for the rapid response guys. But now I am confused, cuz one of you said it's fine and the other said it's not. Again thanks for the reply.
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I agree that its always good to have a heavy AI in your med cabinet when running any wet cycles just in case but I do think that 2 caps of Letrone will do the trick. In this case Im the person who developed the product and know the most about how it works in real life as we ran extensive testing. Ive seen multiple positive labs. In addition there are several positive labs posted on this forum now.
We also tested it on guys running 1000mg test and DMZ and others.
Often reps from competing companies will make negative statements. They must be taken with a grain of salt.
 
brundel said:
I think it would be enough. Both of those are pretty wet though so keep an eye on estro symptoms and up dose if needed.
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DMZ is not wet
 
How important is it to take these at the same times every day? My whole living pattern is a bit irregular at the moment so while I'm always taking both supps twice a day, the times have varied a fair bit. Is this a major issue? Always assumed that since serms and AIs are cumulative over time, it probably doesn't matter that much?
 
conkertheking said:
How important is it to take these at the same times every day? My whole living pattern is a bit irregular at the moment so while I'm always taking both supps twice a day, the times have varied a fair bit. Is this a major issue? Always assumed that since serms and AIs are cumulative over time, it probably doesn't matter that much?
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I believe it depends on the half life of each product. If you dose it at the same period of the day eg.each morning, you wont have a problem
 
GreekTheBrick said:
I believe it depends on the half life of each product. If you dose it at the same period of the day eg.each morning, you wont have a problem
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It depends on a few things we don't know yet I suspect. If Letrone is a suicidal inhibitor then it won't matter what the half life is, as it will permanently deactivate any aromatase it encounters and I don't think the body can replenish any significant amount in one afternoon.
The trouble is that I'm gigging at the moment and as such, "morning" can mean entirely different things from one day to the next ;)
 
I think so long as you take it daily and better yet twice daily you wont have anything to worry about.
 
brundel have a look at my latest log post, my libido seems to have gone through the ceiling and not necessarily in a healthy way ;) Reckon this is a possible effect of the combo even though I'm just one week in, or do I not get to use that as an excuse for contemplating terrible decisions? :p
 
What dose of letrone is sufficent for some-one running 500mg Test E per week with gyno symptoms burning nipples to resolve the problem.
 
paul56778 said:
What dose of letrone is sufficent for some-one running 500mg Test E per week with gyno symptoms burning nipples to resolve the problem.
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Frankly it may not be strong enough if your on cycle and have flaring gyno. If you have it on hand try 3 caps for a week and see if it subsides. If not youll need to use a Pharma option.
If you started the AI before you started the test then 2 caps would be plenty to keep estro under control. Once its really high though and your still on cycle its a difficult situation to manage. :( This is why I always say to use an AI on cycle. Prevent the problem not treat it once it appears. Obviously its too late to prevent so. Again I think 3 caps letrone. If it doesnt do the trick youll need to hit it with a solid dose of Pharm grade AI.
 
brundel said:
I agree that its always good to have a heavy AI in your med cabinet when running any wet cycles just in case but I do think that 2 caps of Letrone will do the trick. In this case Im the person who developed the product and know the most about how it works in real life as we ran extensive testing. Ive seen multiple positive labs. In addition there are several positive labs posted on this forum now.
We also tested it on guys running 1000mg test and DMZ and others.
Often reps from competing companies will make negative statements. They must be taken with a grain of salt.
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How are we supposed to trust you? Based on your avatar - I would never encourage someone to take advice from ANYONE who is not in better shape than themselves, unless they have an unbelievable portfolio and some credentials, Do you have either? Not trying to get personal, but I wouldn't take financial advice from a broke person either. Nor would I trust a guy who's physique can't match near to mine . I say this on behalf of a lot of the new members here, we have a right to be concerned as your potential customers. Functional Market research would support this statement. PS - I have heard good reviews about this product. Nothing personal, I just need to be able to trust the person I am buying from based on them practicing what they preach . bloodwork can also qwel a consumer doubt :)
 
I can relate to that pov. It's hard to take advice from people that don't even look like they lift and don't share our lifestyle and dedication. Lol. I don't think his avatar looks even close to one of those people IMO. Brundel's a lifter and fitness minded person just like us.

Personally, I think these avatars hardly ever do anybody justice. I think mine doesn't capture my muscularity even with shirtless pics. Yours certainly looks yoked. However I know a lot of guys that have ripped 6 packs in their avi's but their current log pics look nowhere near as good. Then there's the guys who offer opinions all over about anything and everything who have never had a pic or log ever and refuse to post any. That always catches my attention. To me it's not about who has the best physique or is strongest but about who puts in work and really uses these products and gives actual real world feedback rather than regurgitating info.

You may not believe me because I'm a rep or my avi doesn't impress you, but I can honestly say I've used every BLR product now and been very satisfied at the results if not impressed on every single one. I've only been a rep since this past June. BLR is the only company I've ever even applied for because Brundel's products had already won my trust. Being inside now, I can say that I am even more impressed by BLR's way of conducting business and pursuing innovative and effective products that deliver. If you give it a shot I believe this product would impress you if used In the right plan with the right goals in mind. That's why I'm here to help. PM me or ask away if there's any questions I could help with. Cheers.
 
Jebrook said:
I can relate to that pov. It's hard to take advice from people that don't even look like they lift and don't share our lifestyle and dedication. Lol. I don't think his avatar looks even close toone of those people IMO. Brundel's a lifter and fitness minded person just like us.

Personally, I think these avatars hardly ever do anybody justice. I think mine doesn't capture my muscularity even with shirtless pics. Yours certainly looks yoked. However I know a lot of guys that have ripped 6 packs in their avi's but their current log pics look nowhere near as good. Then there's the guys who offer opinions all over about anything and everything who have never had a pic or log ever and refuse to post any. That always catches my attention. To me it's not about who has the best physique or is strongest but about who puts in the work and really uses these products and gives actual real world feedback rather than regurgitating info.

You may not believe me because I'm a rep or my avi doesn't impress you, but I can honestly save I've used every BLR product now and been very satisfied at the results if not impressed on every single one. I've only been a rep since this past June. BLR is the only company I've ever even applied for because Brundel's products had already won my trust. Being inside now, I can say that I am even more impressed by BLR's way of conducting business and pursuing innovative and effective products that deliver. If you give it a shot I believe this product would impress you if used In the right plan with the right goals in mind. That's why I'm here to help. PM me or ask away if there's any questions I could help with. Cheers.
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I respect your POV as well. I post pics frequently on ProMuscle. I have been on the boards since 2008. Can't wait to hear from the person I inquired with however. best wishes
 
Lets start with first my Avi has been squashed so I look thin. Im 235 lean in that picture at 5'9. Not sure how it happened but it changed when they fixed the code on the site.
If your that much bigger then congrats. It took me 10 years to get there.
The real thing is credibility but frankly we are talking about science questions not training questions or diet questions so I dont understand your logic. MOST scientists are not in very good shape. If we go by your theory then we should DEF not listen to Patrick Arnold who is arguably the pioneer of modern supp science. But hes not bigger than you so hes not credible? Your logic is SERIOUSLY flawed......period.
I think the half decade I have been releasing some of the best products in the industry is credibility enough.
I think maybe introducing 2 new ingredients to the industry in the last year might help. Epicatechin alone is now being used by dozens of companies and Atractylodes has now been third party tested by half a dozen people all with positive results.
Ultimately I dont need validation though.
 
brundel said:
Lets start with first my Avi has been squashed so I look thin. Im 235 lean in that picture at 5'9. Not sure how it happened but it changed when they fixed the code on the site.
If your that much bigger then congrats. It took me 10 years to get there.
The real thing is credibility but frankly we are talking about science questions not training questions or diet questions so I dont understand your logic. MOST scientists are not in very good shape. If we go by your theory then we should DEF not listen to Patrick Arnold who is arguably the pioneer of modern supp science. But hes not bigger than you so hes not credible? Your logic is SERIOUSLY flawed......period.
I think the half decade I have been releasing some of the best products in the industry is credibility enough.
I think maybe introducing 2 new ingredients to the industry in the last year might help. Epicatechin alone is now being used by dozens of companies and Atractylodes has now been third party tested by half a dozen people all with positive results.
Ultimately I dont need validation though.
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Speaking like the Boss you are! brundel *drops mic*
 
I believe brundel has offered a lot to the supplement industry and it seems that he is willing and capable to offer more. His work is novel and not a copycat. Even if his avi looked like a grandma I cant say otherwise.

PS. I dont know the guy at all. I just say what I believe. I always do.
 
I personally do not mind the physical appearance of the owner of a company, what matters is that it is able to conceive innovative products, and are of high quality.
Nobody ever said that if you run a cycle with Follidrone and Letrone become as Ronny Colemann (as with any other supplement on the market)
I personally have used many products BLR and have never been disappointed. There are other companies out there, who do not always have an owner like Arnold Schwarzenegger ...
having said that, I do not understand the logic behind this comment.
 
Can't judge a book by its cover.. Take a look at some of the trainers that train ifbb pro's most aren't in the best shape. But can tell u how to get in shape. Hell roelly winklar trainer is a little old lady they call grandma...
 
Are we seriously having a debate about someone's avatar as the ultimate indicator of a company's products' effectiveness?

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One thing I noticed on letrone is very good sleep I like it alot. Also my hunger is up pumps in the gym is amazing. And I am having joint discomfort I'm taking 2 caps a day 1 in the a.m with breakfast and 1 pre workout. So far so good
 
bert45 said:
One thing I noticed on letrone is very good sleep I like it alot. Also my hunger is up pumps in the gym is amazing. And I am having joint discomfort I'm taking 2 caps a day 1 in the a.m with breakfast and 1 pre workout. So far so good
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+1 on the sleep, I reckon I slept for about 12 hours last night when I had no reason today to set an alarm, woke up and drifted back to sleep several times and feel epic after it. Of course, I was drinking last night so.... ;)

For joint pain, I haven't been getting that except in my left shoulder, which I believe to be a minor sprain or tendinitis rather than AI related. Try taking a cod liver oil and glucosamine pill with your breakfast each day, I'm inclined to credit this with my lack of joint issues on Formestane despite a lab-proven plummeting of E2, and it's probably the same for my current Letrone run. Stuff is very cheap and does wonders!
 
Can a person with normal test levels benefit from rebirth? Or is it for shutdown only?
 
Cjg said:
Can a person with normal test levels benefit from rebirth? Or is it for shutdown only?
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Rebirth is most suitable for recovery in PCT, but since it is not a steroidal / pharma Serm, it can also run standalone to improve the hormonal environment, ie test / estro ratio.
 
bert45 said:
Of course it will help lower estrogen and increase test levels for natty lifters
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Without an AI, would it not raise both test and E2? Since an increase in test will naturally increase E2 as long as there's sufficient aromatise to keep them in the hypothalamus's preferred ratio?
 
Serm's modulate estrogen receptors selectively, thus regulates estrogen ratio. If estrogen is low, it increases them, if they are high lowers them. By obtaining a proper balance of estrogen, you get a positive level of testosterone.
 
in fact, an AI is more appropriate during a cycle (mainly prohormones), rather than during the PCT, in order to keep low estrogen that rise dramatically with prohormones or any steroidal compounds.
in the recovery phase (PCT) you need a SERM, to regulate hormonal imbalances, and thus accelerate recovery.
sorry for my english :icon16:
 
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