The New Product Release Thread

[The Solution]

edited above

 

[rtmilburn]

Norton's New Supplements Info:
off his periscope announcement:

- Premise of line are

Non-Stim Pre-workout coming out

- Citrulline Malate (6g)
- Creatine Mono ( 2.5g)
- Betaine (2.5g)
- LCLT (1g)
- HICA (Unknown amount)

Nootropic Blend:
Alpha GPC, Huperzine A, (Unknown Amounts)

450mg Cocoa Powder

Recovery Product:

8g BCAA (4g Leucine) 2:1:1 Ratio
LCLT (1g)
3g Citrulline Malate
Tart Cherry Extract (Decrease Muscle Soreness + Increase Strength Recovery)


Flavors :
- Fruit Punch
- Cran Grape
- Blueberry Pomegranate

I'm guessing the cocoa powered is for epi??

 

[kbayne]

I'm guessing the cocoa powered is for epi??

Increased blood flow

 

[rtmilburn]

Increased blood flow

Ya but have read people saying the only reason why cocoa powder works for increasing blood flow is because of its contains epi

 

[Adizzle1]

SlinMax formula should be released by next week, I believe it will launch directly from Performax Labs website and will be sending out MAJOR discount codes to users signed up for our news letter!

 

[kbayne]

Ya but have read people saying the only reason why cocoa powder works for increasing blood flow is because of its contains epi

450mg of cocoa powder isn't remotely close to the dose needed for the amount of -(-)epi people are using -(-)epi for.

85% dark chocolate at 30grams only gives 75mg -(-)epi

 

[rtmilburn]

SlinMax formula should be released by next week, I believe it will launch directly from Performax Labs website and will be sending out MAJOR discount codes to users signed up for our news letter!

Thats sounds awesome!

 

[Auslifter]

SlinMax formula should be released by next week, I believe it will launch directly from Performax Labs website and will be sending out MAJOR discount codes to users signed up for our news letter!

What's the profile?

 

[bbartsche]

SlinMax formula should be released by next week, I believe it will launch directly from Performax Labs website and will be sending out MAJOR discount codes to users signed up for our news letter!

This could be good

 

[The Solution]

Ya but have read people saying the only reason why cocoa powder works for increasing blood flow is because of its contains epi

This is what Layne Wrote:

"thanks Bob. small correction, it will have 3g of creatine monohydrate (should be sufficient for most people, though it may take a few days/week longer to saturate for those who aren't loading).

Also the pre will have 450mg of cocoa powder which to the best of my knowledge is the only ingredient I've ever seen that can increase blood flow in HEALTHY individuals. So should be a multi-phase attack: increase cognitive function, improved performance, and increased blood flow. Additionally, it's not completely stim free as there is 27mg of caffiene as a byproduct of the cocoa extract, but that amount of caffiene is so tiny even people very sensitive to it are unlikely to notice negative effects.

I appreciate everyone's interest."

 

[AntM1564]

What's the profile?

This could be good

Profile should be revealed next week. You guys will truly enjoy this. I do believe if one likes a GDA type supplement, that this will be there go to.

 

[Tiocfaidh]

450mg of cocoa powder isn't remotely close to the dose needed for the amount of -(-)epi people are using -(-)epi for.

85% dark chocolate at 30grams only gives 75mg -(-)epi

its not about effectiveness, its about profit margins. remember, this is bb.com we're talking about.

 

[Jiigzz]

This is what Layne Wrote:

"thanks Bob. small correction, it will have 3g of creatine monohydrate (should be sufficient for most people, though it may take a few days/week longer to saturate for those who aren't loading).

Also the pre will have 450mg of cocoa powder which to the best of my knowledge is the only ingredient I've ever seen that can increase blood flow in HEALTHY individuals. So should be a multi-phase attack: increase cognitive function, improved performance, and increased blood flow. Additionally, it's not completely stim free as there is 27mg of caffiene as a byproduct of the cocoa extract, but that amount of caffiene is so tiny even people very sensitive to it are unlikely to notice negative effects.

I appreciate everyone's interest."

Nitrates dont increase blood flow in healthy humans? Color me intrigued

 

[The Solution]

Nitrates dont increase blood flow in healthy humans? Color me intrigued

I am just quoting what he wrote on another board. You can email him if you want further verification.

 

[Aleksandar37]

Nitrates dont increase blood flow in healthy humans? Color me intrigued

I'm not arguing with Willy Wonka on the magical powers of cocoa, but to say that it is the only ingredient that is beneficial in healthy individuals is false. A quick search pulls up multiple studies published this year alone. So color me intrigued as well.

 

[Driven2lift]

But Layne said so.

Geeze.

 

[Jiigzz]

I am just quoting what he wrote on another board. You can email him if you want further verification.

Oh im aware. Was questioning his logic not our own for relaying information. Just an interesting and bold statement

 

[carmaf]

But Layne said so.

Geeze.

DON'T EVER QUESTION THE DR. LAYNE ****IN' NORTON!

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Nitrates dont increase blood flow in healthy humans? Color me intrigued

I brought something similar up on another forum and haven't gotten an answer yet. I suppose that him saying "to the best of my knowledge" technically doesn't mean that there isn't anything else, just that he claims he's not aware of it.

Pomegranate extract increases blood flow in healthy, highly active individuals as well:

In conclusion, ingestion of PE in close proximity to an exercise bout led to enhanced vessel diameter, blood flow, and delayed fatigue in highly active participants. These effects are likely attributed to PE’s high nitrate and polyphenol content, which have been shown to increase nitric oxide production and enhance exercise efficiency.

The effects of pomegranate extract on blood flow and running time to exhaustion

 

[Rocket3015]

There are other forum's ????

 

[muscleupcrohn]

There are other forum's ????

Yes, but I think I prefer this one. If you know what other forum I'm taking about, I'd say that there's a lot better advice here, as opposed to "use this product, it's great bro!" when someone asks about something.

 

[The Solution]

 

[rugger48]

its not about effectiveness, its about profit margins. remember, this is bb.com we're talking about.

what does Bb.com have to do with it? some of their supplements are priced fairly.

 

[pyrobatt]

I brought something similar up on another forum and haven't gotten an answer yet. I suppose that him saying "to the best of my knowledge" technically doesn't mean that there isn't anything else, just that he claims he's not aware of it.

Pomegranate extract increases blood flow in healthy, highly active individuals as well:

The effects of pomegranate extract on blood flow and running time to exhaustion

Which is why pom is in permaswole chaos and pain haha.

Bob was just quoting .

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Which is why pom is in permaswole chaos and pain haha.

Bob was just quoting .

Yeah, I was talking about Layne supposedly not knowing of any other supplements that increase blood flow in healthy individuals, not Bob.

I do like the CherryPURE that's properly dosed though.

 

[Tiocfaidh]

what does Bb.com have to do with it? some of their supplements are priced fairly.

their house brands are generally overpriced and under dosed.

 

[rugger48]

their house brands are generally overpriced and under dosed.

ok, but I'm not sure how this effects Nortons line.

Not many details have been made public so far, but the line should debut sometime in October. One fact that Norton did confirm is that all the supplements will have completely open labels with clinically efficacious doses. Apparently, Norton was a hot commodity on the market and three other companies reportedly contacted him about creating his own line. He said these were possibly more lucrative than the BB.com offer, but something about them, “just felt right.”

 

[Tiocfaidh]

ok, but I'm not sure how this effects Nortons line.

he's one of the house brands now. its exclusive to them because they are funding it. he's probably just getting a royalty.

 

[rugger48]

he's one of the house brands now. its exclusive to them because they are funding it. he's probably just getting a royalty.

I don't think its quite going to work out that way you think it will, but you never know. Ill give Norton the benefit of the doubt, he has a little more of a different reputation then your average Bodybuilder or Bb.com trainer.

 

[Tiocfaidh]

I don't think its quite going to work out that way you think it will, but you never know. Ill give Norton the benefit of the doubt, he has a little more of a different reputation then your average Bodybuilder or Bb.com trainer.

actually, thats probably what will happen since they do it with other companies. their business model has changed from supporting everyone they sell, to the few they have direct financial interest in. mike mccandless posted about this on their forum. he's already hinted to the cost being higher.

 

[rugger48]

actually, thats probably what will happen since they do it with other companies. their business model has changed from supporting everyone they sell, to the few they have direct financial interest in. mike mccandless posted about this on their forum. he's already hinted to the cost being higher.

price will probablyt be more because of the way its being distributed, but Ill give Norton benefit of the doubt, right now.

 

[Tiocfaidh]

price will probablyt be more because of the way its being distributed, but Ill give Norton benefit of the doubt, right now.

price will be more because they have an extra hand to pay in the process. this isn't anything new with them. ask any company here that deals with them who they push and who they don't. its their brands now, and their pattern is more expensive, less ingredient. see, the new buzz words are clinical dosage.

 

[rugger48]

price will be more because they have an extra hand to pay in the process. this isn't anything new with them. ask any company here that deals with them who they push and who they don't. its their brands now, and their pattern is more expensive, less ingredient. see, the new buzz words are clinical dosage.

and again, I will give him the benefit of the doubt, from what I'm reading he basically saying he has control over whats in it the dosing, and some other things. Its not like I'm going to run out and buy his products, I'm just saying layne and how he has developed over the years is a little more than your average joe blow who just wants to pump out products with his name on it. Has that changed? IDK, but I'm not going to dump on his line because BB.com is involved. Have you read anything that he has said about it?

 

[Tiocfaidh]

and again, I will give him the benefit of the doubt, from what I'm reading he basically saying he has control over whats in it the dosing, and some other things. Its not like I'm going to run out and buy his products, I'm just saying layne and how he has developed over the years is a little more than your average joe blow who just wants to pump out products with his name on it. Has that changed? IDK, but I'm not going to dump on his line because BB.com is involved. Have you read anything that he has said about it?

ok, you won't. but that doesn't mean others won't based on what they already do. yeah, i've read it. i've heard him say quality ingredients cost money. in others words, its more expensive. and i believe its bb.com, not him. you honestly think layne norton is sourcing, formulating and dealing with the legal aspects of formulation? come on. you can give him the benefit of the doubt all you want, but you aren't convincing me of anything. he's cashing in. nothing wrong with that, but i call how i see it. my opinion.

 

[Tiocfaidh]

saw it. $35 for 20 servings. meh.

 

[LLN]

The preworkout is priced as the high margin category product that it is, but his BCAA product is in line with Xtend while including some extras.

Don't see a reason to buy either however.

 

[Adizzle1]

Full 5g Creatine Monohydrate and Magnesium Creatine Chelate evenly split, 2.5g Betaine, 2.5g LALG, 1g of each Taurine, Glycerol and COP, huge dose and first company im aware of to use 90% Amentoflavone and full electrolyte complex. Ive been using this for past couple weeks and the strength and endurance are amazing!!

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Full 5g Creatine Monohydrate and Magnesium Creatine Chelate evenly split, 2.5g Betaine, 2.5g LALG, 1g of each Taurine, Glycerol and COP, huge dose and first company im aware of to use 90% Amentoflavone and full electrolyte complex. Ive been using this for past couple weeks and the strength and endurance are amazing!!

Wouldn't a higher % extract of Amento just make even less of it absorbed?

 

[Adizzle1]

Wouldn't a higher % extract of Amento just make even less of it absorbed?

When we began testing we were using much higher dose of a 20% extract, upon switching to 90% we noticed absolutely no loss in effectiveness but dramatically easier to deal with in terms of mix ability and flavoring and overall less material needed. For a powdered product it made a whole lot more sense with no major drawbacks noticed.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

When we began testing we were using much higher dose of a 20% extract, upon switching to 90% we noticed absolutely no loss in effectiveness but dramatically easier to deal with in terms of mix ability and flavoring and overall less material needed. For a powdered product it made a whole lot more sense with no major drawbacks noticed.

Thats cool, amento 20% extract tastes fkn putird.

 

[Adizzle1]

Agreed, it would turn the whole powder a dark gray, was hard to flavor over and disrupted the mix ability of the product. With 90% we had 0 issues, and even with our unflavored version we simply used a small amount of masking agent and its perfect to mix with any other product!

 

[tyga tyga]

I haven't bought cremax xt, but I am now. The profile has me for life. Betaine + amento is a winner.

 

[cubsfan815]

I haven't bought cremax xt, but I am now. The profile has me for life. Betaine + amento is a winner.

Thanks man. We are all really excited about this one. Pretty damn solid for technically a creatine product.

 

[tyga tyga]

Thanks man. We are all really excited about this one. Pretty damn solid for technically a creatine product.

Point me in the direction to buy a few bottles

 

[cubsfan815]

Point me in the direction to buy a few bottles

About 2 weeks out.

 

[cubs1987]

Nice profile. Would run

 

[Auslifter]

How much glycerol in it? Wondering if i could stack w high volume. But don't want to much GMS

 

[Rocket3015]

Looks promising!!

 

[cubsfan815]

How much glycerol in it? Wondering if i could stack w high volume. But don't want to much GMS

1g
Adizzle1 has been running 2 scoops HyperMax XT plus 1 scoop CreMax XT. So 3g GMS.

 

[bbartsche]

Full 5g Creatine Monohydrate and Magnesium Creatine Chelate evenly split, 2.5g Betaine, 2.5g LALG, 1g of each Taurine, Glycerol and COP, huge dose and first company im aware of to use 90% Amentoflavone and full electrolyte complex. Ive been using this for past couple weeks and the strength and endurance are amazing!!

This has great potential gonna give it a shot