Ecdysteroids from quinoa

NoAddedHmones said:
The future is potentially looking bright for a number of things which has awesome data but terrible oral absorption. Keep an eye out ;)
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I posted in the OL request thread something about ecdy but no one ever got back to me about it, not that it bothers me. Glad you guys are cooking up tons of new stuff!
 
chedapalooza said:
EBol was good, as was isatest and Anabol x by pinnacle

Most wanted did nothing for me even at 3 caps for 8 weeks. Only thing I noticed from it personally way better sleep and slight improvement in chronic hip joint injury I have-- but that's more from the laxo than the ecdy
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Ebol was a great idea and it was made of good source/raws BUT very underdosed. Turk and ecdy was underdosed. But they used raws from ICPS
 
storm 011 said:
even if it is, that I can not know. But it was on the list along with natadrol, PR-XT and many others .. (which I also used) had found steroids in it, they were heavily spiked
the PR-XT contained even 7 different compounds (heavy stuff)
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Interesting bc MAN just rereleased that and I grabbed a bottle. I'd never used it before but I like the profile. Not sure when I'll be using it but I had a discount code so I grabbed it lol
 
Danes said:
Lets say Most Wanted is 98% HPLC tested . With that purity, the price is not bad at all. Complexing with cyclodextrin is not cheap either.
People want cheap supps but you get what you pay. No chance in this world you will find a top quality ecdy product which is dosed high for just 30-40$. No way.
And if it cost just 30$ , it would definitely be underdosed or low quality.and if underdosed, that means you need 10+ caps daily and that would not be so cheap either
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Amen.

People don't understand how expensive the real McCoy is. And that's before you go about maximizing absorption, adding complimentary ingredients etc.
 
Hey Danes, Tonvara is good to go, right? Which of those, and how much, would you take? They recco 4 caps/day of either Turk or Ecdy - is there a benefit to using both?
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Hey Danes, Tonvara is good to go, right? Which of those, and how much, would you take? They recco 4 caps/day of either Turk or Ecdy - is there a benefit to using both?
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Tonvara Turk is 100% legit and its from ICPS. Personaly, I would go 10caps of Turk and 10 of Ecdy. It is VERY expencive :( , but I would not run lower tbh
 
Danes said:
Tonvara Turk is 100% legit and its from ICPS. Personaly, I would go 10caps of Turk and 10 of Ecdy. It is VERY expencive :( , but I would not run lower tbh
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Damn! I'm out then. I thought 8 weeks at 4 caps/day was pushing it as far as justifying the cost... Oh well. THANKS for the info!

Edit: Just so everyone has the info - 10 caps of Tonvara TrueTurkTM would be 100mg of Turkesterone per day. 8 weeks at 10 caps = $265. Adding Ecdy would double that = $530! Danes thinks less than that isn't worth it.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Damn! I'm out then. I thought 8 weeks at 4 caps/day was pushing it as far as justifying the cost... Oh well. THANKS for the info!

Edit: Just so everyone has the info - 10 caps of Tonvara TrueTurkTM would be 1 Gram of Turkesterone per day. 8 weeks at 10 caps = $265. Adding Ecdy would double that = $530! Danes thinks less than that isn't worth it.
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Ajuga turkestanica from ICPS (sold by Tonvara) contain 10% turkesterone. It means 10 caps daily is just 100mg pure turkesterone. No one has higher % turk than ajuga turkestanica from ICPS.

2-4 caps could have some health benefits (such as adaptogen properties) but if you want more anabolic effects, higher doses are needed.
 
Danes said:
Ajuga turkestanica from ICPS (sold by Tonvara) contain 10% turkesterone. It means 10 caps daily is just 100mg pure turkesterone. No one has higher % turk than ajuga turkestanica from ICPS.

2-4 caps could have some health benefits (such as adaptogen properties) but if you want more anabolic effects, higher doses are needed.
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Yeah, I was just going off total cap content, but thanks for the extract amount total.
 
drswsdc said:
Okay has anyone seen this yet? Thoughts? Invalid Link Removed
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I still know ecdysteroids NEED absorption/bioavailability enhancers. Russian scientists knew that many decades ago. Right now I am close to get 100% legit information about best absorption/bioavailability enhancers to optimize the effects of ecdysteroids in humans
 
Danes said:
I still know ecdysteroids NEED absorption/bioavailability enhancers. Russian scientists knew that many decades ago. Right now I am close to get 100% legit information about best absorption/bioavailability enhancers to optimize the effects of ecdysteroids in humans
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Awesome! I look forward to hearing about that and it seems that it is affordable from Powder City!
 
Danes said:
I still know ecdysteroids NEED absorption/bioavailability enhancers. Russian scientists knew that many decades ago. Right now I am close to get 100% legit information about best absorption/bioavailability enhancers to optimize the effects of ecdysteroids in humans
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With all due respect. Eta?
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Estimated Time of Arrival
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Aah thank you :) still learning lol

To answer this question, it depends on answers from scientists. Those scientists and Docs who gave ecdysteroids with absorption enhancers to russian athletes.
Honestly, it has been a long journey and i am crossing the finish line soon :)
 
No prob, I speak ZERO other languages :) Well, a little Iraqi Arabic I guess... It'd be cool if you can do with Ecdy/Turk, what MerivaTM did with Curcumin.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Don't thank me, you paid me well via tax dollars :) I was private security for a civillian company. I got off active duty in '02.
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PMC. Nice I wanted to apply but my wife wouldn't allow but mainly no military background
 
I was taking Maral root at HIGH doses for a couple months. Like 4-5 grams daily. As far as anti-catabolism goes, it's awesome. I haven't lost an ounce of muscle when dieting, and never missed a beat when in a super low hormonal environment. It was expensive. Worth it? Was to me at the time.

I did often take with AstraGin. I have no idea if that helped absorption at all but the results were well-being, muscles felt full, endurance increase, even when total test was well below range. I would love to see someone develop something that really stands out as far as simple supplementation that does not break the bank.

I did like Most Wanted as well but I dosed it pretty high which at the time made it VERY expensive so I didn't run it long. I believe the initial price has come down a little. But It was after transitioning into raw Maral root that I noticed the most benefit.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Damn! I'm out then. I thought 8 weeks at 4 caps/day was pushing it as far as justifying the cost... Oh well. THANKS for the info!

Edit: Just so everyone has the info - 10 caps of Tonvara TrueTurkTM would be 1 Gram of Turkesterone per day. 8 weeks at 10 caps = $265. Adding Ecdy would double that = $530! Danes thinks less than that isn't worth it.
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Might want to ensure Red Blood Cell count doesn't get TOO high, as that can be problematic (blood gets too thick)

You see this with high dose/long duration test. Your iron levels can get too high too. Most anabolic steroids will do this (increase RBC production), Turk is unique among Ecdy's at doing it best. If it is high, consider taking a baby aspirin daily and giving blood every few months.
 
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