*Beware of Iforce Nutrition. Shady Business ITT* (PICS)

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muddschell

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**I was told to contact their CEO directly. CEO has been emailed multiple times, not a single response in over a month. They are scared/dodging. Action must be taken.**

Short and sweet version:

1. I bought multiple bottles of the same iForce products
2. Received a spiked product (the 2 compounds are nowhere near the same color/consistency)
3. Received a zero quality controlled product (powder that is solid as a brick)

i.imgur.com/XIX7qH1.jpg
i.imgur.com/XiSqhNI.jpg
i.imgur.com/LHzj8XE.jpg
i.imgur.com/elCUoKE.jpg
i.imgur.com/Mm2zsTf.jpg

*cant post links yet, somebody link them please.

You have been warned.
 
strange how such a thing could happen with a company like iForce.
I remember the same thing a long time ago when I bought DS Activate Xtreme, I opened a capsule and its contents were completely hardened like a stone, but I do not know if the effectiveness of the product it was compromised.
but the fact that the same product has a different color, makes me suspicious ...
 
Joined 4 years ago & this is your 1st post..?
 
You made this exact thread multiple times on bb.com, were told to stop, didn't, and got banned. Now you're doing it here?
 
Snort the white stuff, see how the gains are.
 
topcop8p8 said:
You made this exact thread multiple times on bb.com, were told to stop, didn't, and got banned. Now you're doing it here?
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Why shouldn't he post it here? BB.com is like Nazi Germany so the fact that mods told him to stop means pretty much nothing. They will do anything to quiet anyone who can harm their sales (not saying that this guy is legit, but at least let him post).
 
warbird01 said:
Why shouldn't he post it here? BB.com is like Nazi Germany so the fact that mods told him to stop means pretty much nothing. They will do anything to quite anyone who can harm their sales (not saying that this guy is legit, but at least let him post).
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Because the iforce reps answered his questions, looked up the lot numbers and explained why they looked different, even offered him replacements. He continued to make the exact thread multiple times everyday to the point it was being considered spamming. Mods asked him to stop making the same thread over and over and he didn't.
 
topcop8p8 said:
Because the iforce reps answered his questions, looked up the lot numbers and explained why they looked different, even offered him replacements. He continued to make the exact thread multiple times everyday to the point it was being considered spamming. Mods asked him to stop making the same thread over and over and he didn't.
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This. No need for this thread.
 
This is strange, iforce is a reputable company. I emailed them one month ago about their product conquer and they answered me super fast! As far as i am concerned, and based on previous experiences very legit products with solid reviews.
 
topcop8p8 said:
Because the iforce reps answered his questions, looked up the lot numbers and explained why they looked different, even offered him replacements. He continued to make the exact thread multiple times everyday to the point it was being considered spamming. Mods asked him to stop making the same thread over and over and he didn't.
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What was their reasoning behind the drastically different looking powders? Is the thread up? locked?deleted now?
 
I've been buying force products for years and just cracked open another tub of hemavol today actually. Never once had a QC issue with them for what it's worth
 
muddschell said:
**I was told to contact their CEO directly. CEO has been emailed multiple times, not a single response in over a month. They are scared/dodging. Action must be taken.**

Short and sweet version:

1. I bought multiple bottles of the same iForce products
2. Received a spiked product (the 2 compounds are nowhere near the same color/consistency)
3. Received a zero quality controlled product (powder that is solid as a brick)

i.imgur.com/XIX7qH1.jpg
i.imgur.com/XiSqhNI.jpg
i.imgur.com/LHzj8XE.jpg
i.imgur.com/elCUoKE.jpg
i.imgur.com/Mm2zsTf.jpg

*cant post links yet, somebody link them please.

You have been warned.
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Crazy. The different Intimidate contents would certainly spike my cautionary radar as well.

As for the Testabolan, you are likely good to go. I have bought prob 6 bottles of the stuff and 3 of them were hardened like that. I got them on sale and were close to expiration. The hardening is likely the result of moisture/air getting in. IForce's sealing of bottles isn't the best and they don't typically use a moisture absorber inside of the bottles.

I contacted Vaughn on another board and he checked it out for me. As for results, the hardened Testabolan I used worked just as well as the fresh powdered ones.

Hope that helps and hope you can get some resolution from them.
 
TyMan14 said:
I've been buying force products for years and just cracked open another tub of hemavol today actually. Never once had a QC issue with them for what it's worth
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Same here.

I've had hardened Testabolan like that though. Worked just fine though and no issues.

I like their Testabolan (I respond well to 3,4 divanil), and their Hemovol tastes AWESOME. Too bad they discontinued Adipoxil though....
 
warbird01 said:
Why shouldn't he post it here? BB.com is like Nazi Germany so the fact that mods told him to stop means pretty much nothing. They will do anything to quite anyone who can harm their sales .
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Quoted for truth. Reps for life.
 
T-Bone said:
I don't see what is wrong with the products?. Did he even try them?. Or just open up the capsules to see what it looked like inside?.
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That looks like 2 different ingredients to me...

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topcop8p8 said:
Because the iforce reps answered his questions, looked up the lot numbers and explained why they looked different, even offered him replacements. He continued to make the exact thread multiple times everyday to the point it was being considered spamming. Mods asked him to stop making the same thread over and over and he didn't.
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Cool story bro, except for the fact that this is a different forum. Rather than hate on the guy, how about you put their replies here?
 
topcop8p8 said:
Because the iforce reps answered his questions, looked up the lot numbers and explained why they looked different, even offered him replacements. He continued to make the exact thread multiple times everyday to the point it was being considered spamming. Mods asked him to stop making the same thread over and over and he didn't.
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Stating that the issue was solved would have put this threat to rest. Thanks for the update.
 
BeardedBreast said:
Bill didn't email you back? Over what period of time?
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Its been over a month and multiple emails send to his personal inbox

warbird01 said:
Stating that the issue was solved would have put this threat to rest. Thanks for the update.
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The issue was NOT resolved. Reps just trashposted basic facts about supplements themselves, never answering the real questions

T-Bone said:
Could have been from different suppliers, but the exact same thing.
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There is ABSOLUTELY no way that is the same ingredients. brassaiopsis glomerulata is a plant that grows out of the ground, there is no way a company is going to spend their money bleaching a BROWN HERB to a white powder.

T-Bone said:
I don't see what is wrong with the products?. Did he even try them?. Or just open up the capsules to see what it looked like inside?.
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Yes, they white has a sour taste to it, chemical like. And the brown tasted like what you expect any herb/natty test booster to taste like, dirt.

Afi140 said:
What was their reasoning behind the drastically different looking powders? Is the thread up? locked?deleted now?
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They said it was rice powder, LOL. He said they sometimes use brown or white rice powder. And then I immediately debunked their claims. Their is 500mg of of brassaiopsis glomerulata in a pill, there is 720mg of contents (total amount available) to be put inside the pill itself. More than 75% of the pill should be brassaiopsis glomerulata, and the "extra" rice powder. It shouldnt be 1 solid color if this is true. They are just trying to cover up my claims.


I'm just waiting for them to respond and admit they spiked a product, intentional or not.
 
muddschell said:
Its been over a month and multiple emails send to his personal inbox



The issue was NOT resolved. Reps just trashposted basic facts about supplements themselves, never answering the real questions



There is ABSOLUTELY no way that is the same ingredients. brassaiopsis glomerulata is a plant that grows out of the ground, there is no way a company is going to spend their money bleaching a BROWN HERB to a white powder.



Yes, they white has a sour taste to it, chemical like. And the brown tasted like what you expect any herb/natty test booster to taste like, dirt.



They said it was rice powder, LOL. He said they sometimes use brown or white rice powder. And then I immediately debunked their claims. Their is 500mg of of brassaiopsis glomerulata in a pill, there is 720mg of contents (total amount available) to be put inside the pill itself. More than 75% of the pill should be brassaiopsis glomerulata, and the "extra" rice powder. It shouldnt be 1 solid color if this is true. They are just trying to cover up my claims.


I'm just waiting for them to respond and admit they spiked a product, intentional or not.
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Their answer is probably correct. Different manufacturers can use different forms of fillers that can change the color...or taste.
 
mw1 said:
Their answer is probably correct. Different manufacturers can use different forms of fillers that can change the color...or taste.
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So you're saying that the herb or the rice powder is different color?

See what I mean? Either way, its false

One pill is a brown herb powder (brassaiopsis) with a few white specs inside (N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid). The other is a completely white powder........

Also, have you ever seen a sourced raw herb bleached to a fine white powder? Companies dont and wont do that, just wouldn't make sense.
 
muddschell said:
So you're saying that the herb or the rice powder is different color?

See what I mean? Either way, its false

One pill is a brown herb powder (brassaiopsis) with a few white specs inside (N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid). The other is a completely white powder........
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see if Patric Arnold will test it for you..
 
Take your customer issues to them.
 
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