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Breaking into my first olympus uk product

3.00am wake up first thing I do is check that I'm still in ketosis. Can I sleep???? The next thing thinking... 45min till I can get ready for themgym....Ahh the con test mindset... The one thing on my mind right now is its leg day will I be able to do cardio after legs??? Should I do cardio first????? I don't know if I'm making sense. Oh exactly 7 weeks to go today.....
 
Received confirm last of the pre contest supps on their way..... gonna be a draining 10 days starting up tomorrow morning we will do a mini peak week and coach will see where we are really at 5 weeks out. Thats.just kind of our last check.point where any adjustments to diet.supps etc will be decided.because 5.weeks is basically one month we want to be on point 10 days out and cruise through peak week on au to pilot no added stress etc
 
Been a little tired last two days not sure if its gw and low carbs going to add on some brown rice and potatoes nothing crazy will stay under 100g carbs a day
 
So taking in about 10 to 15g of carbs a meal feeling full and less lethargic I will take that as a sign gw working. This morning was 5th dose at 30 osta 21 gw
 
I am heavily contemplating adding Cardar1ne to my log. May get a 2 pack and an extra bottle of RAD.
 
Day 6 endurashred splitting dosages see if anything changes one dose pre fasted 2nd dose pre weights back on clen low dosing enough t3 ro help with tren suspension. Starting up winny again wanted to give osta a little time to get working before winny.

So osta winny gw and clen let's see if we visit shred city these next 12 days...
 
Gw has kicked in two day break from fasted cardio today I breezed through 45 min throwing in some sprints and walking atvarious inclines up to max 15. 6oz sirloin for breakfast you can do all the cardio lift all you want take "supplements" but if diet not on point for YOUR BODY it won't matter
 
That's one big big point I'd like to address I don't know how many times people start threads and say diet is on point. I'm protein this % this much below maintenance etc. Honestly those are cookie cutter diets we got I think 10 athletes preparing for the show EVERYONE has a different diet plan cardio plan and supplement protocol. What it takes for me to get to 6% is world's different my partner might make it at 150 of carbs a day and two sessions of liss I need to cycle down to 15 and do fasted and hitt. To me diet on point means sub teen bf% year round 9 or 10% being ideal.
 
mixedup said:
That's one big big point I'd like to address I don't know how many times people start threads and say diet is on point. I'm protein this % this much below maintenance etc. Honestly those are cookie cutter diets we got I think 10 athletes preparing for the show EVERYONE has a different diet plan cardio plan and supplement protocol. What it takes for me to get to 6% is world's different my partner might make it at 150 of carbs a day and two sessions of liss I need to cycle down to 15 and do fasted and hitt. To me diet on point means sub teen bf% year round 9 or 10% being ideal.
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I did very little cardio during my prep, almost none... and I wasn't taking nearly as much compounds. Still out performed a lot of the juice heads on stage.

Contest prep is not that complicated lol
 
zman86 said:
I did very little cardio during my prep, almost none... and I wasn't taking nearly as much compounds. Still out performed a lot of the juice heads on stage.

Contest prep is not that complicated lol
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Umm not for nothing but can you go heads up with ronson Cornell Jay roos Sean Ahmed Dean Johnny remember those are the people we stand next to work with get on stage with... Ahmed had 3 overalls and next show took overall in vegas to turn pro Sean took san jose 2x got 4th call outs in vegas . Dean went to vegas at approx 183lbs. Prep for them and then say it's not that complicated every show we hit has people who have placed at a national level people on the verge of their pro card . Not putting you down I know you work hard but saying prepping to go up against the comp we do isn't complicated just kind of makes it seem like your saying you know more than ariel omar Johnny etc
All of their preps are complicated all are making weekly changes all have made alot of pros. Do you honestle think you not complicated prep is better than these pro makers
 
mixedup said:
Umm not for nothing but can you go heads up with ronson Cornell Jay roos Sean Ahmed Dean Johnny remember those are the people we stand next to work with get on stage with... Ahmed had 3 overalls and next show took overall in vegas to turn pro Sean took san jose 2x got 4th call outs in vegas . Dean went to vegas at approx 183lbs. Prep for them and then say it's not that complicated every show we hit has people who have placed at a national level people on the verge of their pro card . Not putting you down I know you work hard but saying prepping to go up against the comp we do isn't complicated just kind of makes it seem like your saying you know more than ariel omar Johnny etc
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It has more to do with genetics and overall musculature in terms of winning a pro card. Let me re-phrase Natty or semi-natty contest prep without pinning is not complicated. Even if I did Prop, tren and mast for my pre-contest cycle, I'd probably still wouldn't do much cardio. My problem is not conditioning, its overall muscularity I lack the pecs and back thickness to be top 5 Nationals quality and I'm gonna fix those problems using only SARMs and PH and I think I have the genetics to pull it off.

Cutz and Ventura and other top teams has MANY clients, those that get highlighted on instagram and did well at shows are some of their top guys with superior genetics to begin with and willing to use and endure all the recommended compounds. Its sad to say most people will never be IFBB pros no matter how hard they try.

Let us see some pics bro, this is the only way we can tell if your prep and cycles are working.
 
I'm not going to argue if you think it's genetics over hard work than fine.. im going by proven methods dean has the genetics he does minimum 75 min cardio a day . Ahmad has genetics he'd pro He does 2x cardio a day if you are lucky enough to have better genetics than these two pros and don't need cardio all the power to you fact is most people no matter what they are on at that level need cardio. I'm not lucky like you at 42 I need cardio to burn the fat I don't have the metabolism of someone close to 20 years younger than me
 
mixedup said:
I'm not going to argue if you think it's genetics over hard work than fine.. im going by proven methods dean has the genetics he does minimum 75 min cardio a day . Ahmad has genetics he'd pro He does 2x cardio a day if you are lucky enough to have better genetics than these two pros and don't need cardio all the power to you fact is most people no matter what they are on at that level need cardio. I'm not lucky like you at 42 I need cardio to burn the fat I don't have the metabolism of someone close to 20 years younger than me
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Dang you 42? Yeah you def might have to do cardio. Are you doing the Master 35 and 40+ or open?

Hard work will win regional shows and maybe first or 2nd call out at Nationals.

Genetics+hard work=IFBB Pro Card. This is reality.
 
Yes I'm 42 I'm competing masters over 40+ depending how I do and peak my go to Culver City the next week for grand titans
 
tyga tyga said:
How many shows have you done mixedup? What have you placed?
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I did 2 local shows many many years ago before I fought pro.. being honest I wasn't that good I placed in 2nd show4th first show didn't place I didn't know anything about diet etc cutting weight for me was plastic suit in the sauna like wrestling and muay thai. I realized just like having a Gracie in my corner I would never do well without a good coach and team which is why I hired the people I did. Hope I don't disappoint saying I wasn't good but im not one to puff my ego it is what it is I have great coaches and the dedication to follow them exactly so I hope it's enough this time around to have a good showing
 
mixedup said:
I did 2 local shows many many years ago before I fought pro.. being honest I wasn't that good I placed in 2nd show4th first show didn't place I didn't know anything about diet etc cutting weight for me was plastic suit in the sauna like wrestling and muay thai. I realized just like having a Gracie in my corner I would never do well without a good coach and team which is why I hired the people I did. Hope I don't disappoint saying I wasn't good but im not one to puff my ego it is what it is I have great coaches and the dedication to follow them exactly so I hope it's enough this time around to have a good showing
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I thought about hiring a coach... then I looked at how much some of the top ones are charging... thats a lot of money that could be used to buy food, supplements and Olympus UK products lol. I rather just do my own research and prep and save the money for the goodies. Now unless a certain coach has the "ins" with the judges or some "political" sway then yeah I might consider donating some bread to that coach.
 
zman86 said:
I thought about hiring a coach... then I looked at how much some of the top ones are charging... thats a lot of money that could be used to buy food, supplements and Olympus UK products lol. I rather just do my own research and prep and save the money for the goodies. Now unless a certain coach has the "ins" with the judges or some "political" sway then yeah I might consider donating some bread to that coach.
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I started martial arts at 10 wrestler
High school and college another 10+ years with muay thai and grappling coaches. For me I just feel much more comfortable in that environment but it's not for everone
 
Day 8 I don't seem to be experiencing any help in the joint department to counter the winny I was hoping by now it would help
 
mixedup said:
Umm not for nothing but can you go heads up with ronson Cornell Jay roos Sean Ahmed Dean Johnny remember those are the people we stand next to work with get on stage with... Ahmed had 3 overalls and next show took overall in vegas to turn pro Sean took san jose 2x got 4th call outs in vegas . Dean went to vegas at approx 183lbs. Prep for them and then say it's not that complicated every show we hit has people who have placed at a national level people on the verge of their pro card . Not putting you down I know you work hard but saying prepping to go up against the comp we do isn't complicated just kind of makes it seem like your saying you know more than ariel omar Johnny etc
All of their preps are complicated all are making weekly changes all have made alot of pros. Do you honestle think you not complicated prep is better than these pro makers
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WUUUSAI my brother... He may very well know more than these people, you really don't have a clue what he knows. The fact he does not have a stable of champions behind him does not mean he know less than people who do. You know that your guys know there stuff and that is awesome but the rest of the posturing is completely unnecessary.

Prep is simple, but very hard. It is also very individual. Jon Meadows preps people all the time with no or very little cardio. In my opinion you were behind when you first started prep and have had to really crush 2 a days to get in shape quick enough for the show. You have done a very impressive job of catching up. However you would not have needed it if you started earlier or were leaner when you originally started. Your coaches have you doing exactly what you need to do in the time frame you have to get ready. However for your coaches setting up your prep is pretty simple. Everyone falls into certain areas for nutrition. You can determine what these areas are with proper questions. Then start them on a plan that plays into their characteristics. Once you have them on general plan for that you begin to make minor tweaks based on the results they are getting.

Balancing nutrition to maintain muscle mass and lose fat is not that hard. The most complicated part of prep is getting the peak week right. Yet if you are a true 4% going into peak week you really don;t have to do much other than limit water the night before and walk on stage. There are tons of ways to get someone peeled and in amazing condition. When you get into manipulating things too much is when you play the flat or spilled over Russian Roulette. You can come in peeled, dry and full, flat as a pancake or spilled over and it all depends on how your body reacts to the peak week that time. Even a practice peak week where you are not almost show ready is not going to tell you how your body will respond on peak week a few weeks later.
mixedup said:
Day 8 I don't seem to be experiencing any help in the joint department to counter the winny I was hoping by now it would help
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It takes a while to see the effects of that, it only helps by increasing collagen. It can not undue what winny does to to your connective tissue in a week. Winny makes your connective tissue grow but it grows with the fibers out of alignment, making them brittle and dry. It takes a while for that to correct itself. GH helps with healing not so much inflammation. Sure as things heal they get less inflamed but the pain you are feeling is from inflammation. Have you thought about using any Cissus?
 
MrKleen73 said:
WUUUSAI my brother... He may very well know more than these people, you really don't have a clue what he knows. The fact he does not have a stable of champions behind him does not mean he know less than people who do. You know that your guys know there stuff and that is awesome but the rest of the posturing is completely unnecessary.
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Actually we have a good natured back and forth. I have been very supportive in his goals and take his comments in good nature. But you are correct I went on a little rant lot of tren coupled with low carbs has me a little edgy... so I do apologies if some of my posts are rough. I appreciate all the comments critiques etc
 
Yeah, I feel you plus you SHOULD feel protective of your coach. You shouldn't let anyone shake your confidence in your coach. I knew you were probably "geared up" from the tren and feeling protective of what is now "family."
 
I really think that olympus gw must be quite stronger or just dosed correctly I find since about day 5 I get quite sluggish if I don't add in more carbs. This didn't happen on previous run with rc gw at same dose
 
From my experience with their products: when OL say or write that something is in the bottle, you can be sure it is, and it's properly dosed. That might not always be the case with RC, although I'm sure there are great RC companies out there as well. RE: Ostarine -- I had this chronic pain in my left wrist that Ostar1ne took care of; but it took around 4 weeks for that to happen. Honestly, the product was worth the money for that effect alone.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah, I feel you plus you SHOULD feel protective of your coach. You shouldn't let anyone shake your confidence in your coach. I knew you were probably "geared up" from the tren and feeling protective of what is now "family."
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Wasn't trying to bash on his coach or team, their knowledge and experience are well-founded. But nothing they know are anything new or special, the science is out there and there are many trials and errors done by many bodybuilders to solidify what works well and what don't. Everyone reacts differently to different compounds obviously, I do my own research and know my body better than anyone else. But like mixedup said, he feels comfortable to be in a environment with great support, which is good enough.

But I'm just gonna be brutally honest, his coach should of extended his prep and not push a client physically and chemically so hard just for some local qualifying show. A lot of coaches just want to make money and aren't being too honest, many won't to tell a client "hey I don't think you should compete at all this year and should take the next 8 months just to bulk", because they know that potential client will walk away and try to find another coach who can work 'magics' lol.
 
We need to see pictures to see where he's at. Every bodies 10-12% Bf on the interwebz. It'd be nice to see why he's dieting and training so hard. Are you that behind mixedup?

What does a typical day of eating look like?
 
Z I appreciate your honesty. But as for my coach he's not making any money this prep because last prep I tore my pec and had to get surgery.

Even you estimated my pic at approx 11% that still puts me in range to come in at under 6% not bad.for 40+ masters.

Maybe I am pushing hard but that's my choice. I've been competing in one form or another for 20+ years pushing hard is nothing new.
 
tyga tyga said:
We need to see pictures to see where he's at. Every bodies 10-12% Bf on the interwebz. It'd be nice to see why he's dieting and training so hard. Are you that behind mixedup?

What does a typical day of eating look like?
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Honestly we will just have to see when the time comes. Kleen estimated 10 to 12% from last week's pic and I've been coming down .75 to 1% each week. Will I come in at 3 to 4 % probably not but I should be legit under 6%
 
mixedup said:
Z I appreciate your honesty. But as for my coach he's not making any money this prep because last prep I tore my pec and had to get surgery.

Even you estimated my pic at approx 11% that still puts me in range to come in at under 6% not bad.for 40+ masters.

Maybe I am pushing hard but that's my choice. I've been competing in one form or another for 20+ years pushing hard is nothing new.
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Ive never taken that many compounds, so I wouldn't know and I've never seen anyone drop 4-5% BF within 6 weeks. My prep was over 5 months long, slow and steady. It's ok to push yourself physically but chemically it's a toll you have to pay later on.

After your 2 shows, you need a good off season to work on your delts and upper chest, they are lacking a little. I've seen some huge 40+ year old guys at NPC Universe with great muscle maturity from decades of lifting. They put a lot of young guys to shame haha.
 
tyga tyga said:
We need to see pictures to see where he's at. Every bodies 10-12% Bf on the interwebz. It'd be nice to see why he's dieting and training so hard. Are you that behind mixedup?

What does a typical day of eating look like?
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tyga tyga here is the pic he posted up in another thread I said was between 10-12% by my estimation. Of course you can only see his core here so hard to tell.
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A little flat from t3

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zman86 said:
Ive never taken that many compounds, so I wouldn't know and I've never seen anyone drop 4-5% BF within 6 weeks. My prep was over 5 months long, slow and steady. It's ok to push yourself physically but chemically it's a toll you have to pay later on.

After your 2 shows, you need a good off season to work on your delts and upper chest, they are lacking a little. I've seen some huge 40+ year old guys at NPC Universe with great muscle maturity from decades of lifting. They put a lot of young guys to shame haha.
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I agree things are going way faster in his prep than I would be comfortable with. However the only prep I have done was just like yours, I was Natural, and did a 5 month long cut bringing me down to this without any water manipulation. At 8 weeks out I was already 6% and I was actually worried about coming in lean enough.

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Shredded brah. Yours pecs are great, I need to bring my pec game up
 
MrKleen73 said:
tyga tyga here is the pic he posted up in another thread I said was between 10-12% by my estimation. Of course you can only see his core here so hard to tell.





I agree things are going way faster in his prep than I would be comfortable with. However the only prep I have done was just like yours, I was Natural, and did a 5 month long cut bringing me down to this without any water manipulation. At 8 weeks out I was already 6% and I was actually worried about coming in lean enough.

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**** man looking lean af!
 
Totally agree chest is lagging I had a completely ruptured pec that took two surgeries to reattach last year so definitely behind. I did think my delts were pretty capped here's a cold pic from this morning no gym no pumpInvalid Link Removed
 
Any Updates?
 
zman86 said:
Wasn't trying to bash on his coach or team, their knowledge and experience are well-founded. But nothing they know are anything new or special, the science is out there and there are many trials and errors done by many bodybuilders to solidify what works well and what don't. Everyone reacts differently to different compounds obviously, I do my own research and know my body better than anyone else. But like mixedup said, he feels comfortable to be in a environment with great support, which is good enough.

But I'm just gonna be brutally honest, his coach should of extended his prep and not push a client physically and chemically so hard just for some local qualifying show. A lot of coaches just want to make money and aren't being too honest, many won't to tell a client "hey I don't think you should compete at all this year and should take the next 8 months just to bulk", because they know that potential client will walk away and try to find another coach who can work 'magics' lol.
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I've seen coaches put guys on drugs like epistane and the guy was like "epistane is just a supplement not a drug" I was like wowwwww that is nuts. But seriously I've seen guys simply take drugs because the coach told them to. They had no idea what they were taking or why.....they just wanted results. This happens so often
 
JG93 said:
My chest lags the same way. After I broke my ribs.
Best exercise to peel them right up?
That is what I can't seem to figure out.
Advice?
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Lots of Incline presses(db and barbells) and chest dips. FST7 on your last exercise, cable flys would be a good one.
 
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