Trest cycle help/advices

indapowa

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Hey,

im from germany, so im not a native speaker but i hope you can understand everything, otherwise just ask or correct me.

I want to start a trest cycle ( Dermatrest from OL).

The basics:
100mg ed Dermatrest
25-50mg ed transdermal Formestane
50mg ed P5P (in case of prolactin sides)

PCT:
nolva
ostarine 10mg ed
test booster (some advices?)

I want to do this cycle for 8-12 weeks.

Now there are different options and questions.

What do you think about taking ostarine at 20-25mg ed for 8 weeks BEFORE i start my trest cycle? My idea is to make the cycle as long as possible, because muscles need a long time to be built (i dont want just glycogen or water).

Next question: Should i stack? I know the risks and problems that can occur on a cycle, but i want it to be almost safe and keep the sides low. I dont want to be too harsh with my body. In a german forum a member wrote that he use 1-2 times a week another ph like dimethandrostenol to boost his hormonal levels. What do you think about it?

Do i need an extra on cycle product?

And what about mk677? I think it is quite effective in such a cycle.

I hope some member here can give me good advices.

Thx
 
welcome to the forums bro.

Dermatrest is can be stacked with a mild oral anabolic if you wanted to.

Starting with a 6-8 week Osta cycle is not a bad idea, and then bridging into the Trest. I did this last year.

I would get some Tudca & NAC to run on cycle for Liver Support even though both are not harsh on the liver.

I would also get some Hawthorne Berry for blood pressure support, because both Trest & Osta, can raise BP.

You could look into CEL Cycle Assist, it has Nac & Hawthorne Berry in it, so you wouldn't have to buy it separate.


For test boosters looking to Black Lion Viron. Its has the only clinically proven ingredient to boost libido
in men with hypogadism.
 
I'd run clomid for your PCT. Trest will shut you down hard. First time I ran it I used formestane as my AI and did fine. Next time around, I'm getting aromasin to be safe (based on feedback from these forums). Otherwise you look set. Enjoy your run!
 
Don't run Ostarine in PCT. If you want you can start your cycle with Ostarine at 15-20 for 8 weeks, then go into your Trest cycle as planned, then PCT with a SERM. I'd suggest toremifene. Either that or the other way around, but add Dermacrine...Like so, do your cycle as planned, when finished go on Ostarine and add Dermacrine for a test base and continue the formestane but at a lower dosage....then pct.
 
Yeah, definitely DON'T run Osta in your pct. It is the opposite of what you want to be running in PCT. If you are worried about prolactin sides look into Inhibit P as well.

People around here usually run Reduce XT starting week 3 of PCT which is nice for cortisol control if you have the extra funds.
 
Would any OTC AI (like BSL Letrone or Inhibit-E) be enough for Trest? Also I would run the reformulated Ar1macare Pro as My Cycle Support. I am unable to use a RC AI due to my job.
 
The Whizard said:
Would any OTC AI (like BSL Letrone or Inhibit-E) be enough for Trest? Also I would run the reformulated Ar1macare Pro as My Cycle Support. I am unable to use a RC AI due to my job.
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I think the answer is going to be a resounding "NO." Trest is no joke and you need a quality AI. I managed a cycle with formestane, but most guys who are in the know on these boards will tell you even that is risky.

Ar1macare Pro is what I run for support. You should be fine there. But, IMHO, you will need a stronger AI. I am going to run a second cycle this winter and get aromasin. Just out of curiosity, why can't you run an rc AI because of your job, but you are able to run trest?
 
Mr.Whizard you should start your own thread if you have questions about your cycle. It's a bit rude to be asking questions in another persons personal thread about their own cycle.
 
Thanks a lot for the many responses and your welcoming.

I know the Cel cycle assist and it treated me well on my first cycle (mechabol). But i think i get the new ar1macare pro, because there are so many proofen ingredients in it and i also want something in case of prolactin sides (so i can save the p5p or inhibit p).

Is this in combination with my formestane enough for trest? I want to be safe because i know that methyl estrogen is very strong!

As a test booster many people suggested activate extreme, but i also looked into the profil of viron, it seems interesting but i want to do a lil bit more research into the ingredients.

You suggested clomid and toremifene. Why not nolva? I know it supresses strongly the igf production, but are there other points i need to take care of?

I am suprised that many of you said that i should not use osta in my pct. There are pct products that use it. In my researches i learned that 10mg of osta are not supressive (in some cases it it, but not that much), and in other forums people recommend it.

My idea is that i want to secure my new muscle after the cycle, because when i finished trest my estrogen is very high, but my test is low and of course my cortisol is high and in most cases the muscle gets "burned". I want to prevent it with osta, so my test levels can get back to a normal level and osta secures my muscle in this time. After that process i want to end osta.

What do you think about taking 2gr of vitamin c in pct?

And what about mk677?

thx a lot for your help
 
I would just get some aromasin. It's cheaper than BSL Letrone. You don't wanna **** around with estrogen sides. Gyno is a bitch and expensive to deal with!

You could run inhibit e with a more mild compound though.
 
warbird01 said:
I would just get some aromasin. It's cheaper than BSL Letrone.
You don't wanna **** around with estrogen sides. Gyno is a bitch and expensive to deal with!

You could run inhibit e with a more mild compound though.
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BSL doesnt make Letrone. Black Lion Research makes Letrone. :bigok:
 
indapowa said:
Hey,

im from germany, so im not a native speaker but i hope you can understand everything, otherwise just ask or correct me.

I want to start a trest cycle ( Dermatrest from OL).

The basics:
100mg ed Dermatrest
25-50mg ed transdermal Formestane
50mg ed P5P (in case of prolactin sides)

PCT:
nolva
ostarine 10mg ed
test booster (some advices?)

I want to do this cycle for 8-12 weeks.

Now there are different options and questions.

What do you think about taking ostarine at 20-25mg ed for 8 weeks BEFORE i start my trest cycle? My idea is to make the cycle as long as possible, because muscles need a long time to be built (i dont want just glycogen or water).

Next question: Should i stack? I know the risks and problems that can occur on a cycle, but i want it to be almost safe and keep the sides low. I dont want to be too harsh with my body. In a german forum a member wrote that he use 1-2 times a week another ph like dimethandrostenol to boost his hormonal levels. What do you think about it?

Do i need an extra on cycle product?

And what about mk677? I think it is quite effective in such a cycle.

I hope some member here can give me good advices.

Thx
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Hey mate im also from germany and have run both TD trest and osta several times. Both give good strength gains but none of them gave me longlasting or massive mass gains. osta is more of a cutting compound and trest serves as a Kind of "test" base. Im not sure if i would run TD trest solo again as the gains mainly were water and glycogen. Formestane at 100mg per day is more than enough for 100mg per day of TD Trest. Prolactin control on TD trest shouldnt be necessary.I would recommend clomid for trest PCT as it gives the best recovery with the least sides. One pack with 20 tablets is enough. Nolva is inferior and more toxic than clomid. I also bridged osta into Trest, a very good idea. Stupid thing to take other ph along trest only one or two times a week.if you stack the trest run it continously. Some say epi goes well with trest as a very dry and a very wet compound are combined here. If You have further questions pm me your Skype Name and we can chat in Herman about your cycle
 
thanks for your answers.

I often read that people are not satisfied with their results on a trest solo cycle, but then there are also others who claim that it is the best compund they have ever run.

I think i just give it a go and have something at side, if i notice that i need something extra.

uubiduu

I also thought about to add epi, i think i just order a bottle.

schön noch einen anderen deutschen hier im forum anzutreffen :D hab leider kein skype, aber vielen dank für dein angebot!
 
vujade said:
For test boosters looking to Black Lion Viron. Its has the only clinically proven ingredient to boost libido
in men with hypogadism.
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Not even close to true my friend, come on now.

The following are clinically proven to do the same:

maca
fenugreek
ashwaghanda
l-dopa

I can go on...
 
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