Epic help!

Zariph

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Hello - Just discovered those epic producst like FOllidron and Ep1c Unleashed and I've got some questions

1. Which product would you prefer?
2. For how long can these be run?
3. Can I stack these with ABE+X factor+Pa?
4. Any side effects?

Would really appreciate the help!
 
I can't really help you there iv never taken it but from what I read from everyone it's a amazing product good choice
 
Not sure you could go to wrong with most of the products on the market with that main ingredient (CEL, BLR, and Olympus all seem to have quality feedback).

As far as stacking it, there is not inherent issue with those other products you mentioned, but you may be better served running them at separate times. Too many all at once will have diminishing returns (can only make so much improvement in a given time) and it'll make it easier to tell how effective the product is for you.
 
Zariph said:
Hello - Just discovered those epic producst like FOllidron and Ep1c Unleashed and I've got some questions

1. Which product would you prefer?
2. For how long can these be run?
3. Can I stack these with ABE+X factor+Pa?
4. Any side effects?

Would really appreciate the help!
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1. I've used Follidrone and am currently in my 5th week of Ep1c Unleashed (caps). Can't go wrong with either. OG Ep1c was inferior to Follidrone (I used that too), but Ep1c Unleashed is a big improvement.

2. 8-12 weeks for best results (however, I think some people run them indefinitely)

3. YES - (-)Epi stacks well with those products. I like to take it with X-Gels

4. Nope. Major difference I see is increased endurance and recovery, but no negative sides.
 
^^^Agreed with everone above. Great advice and tips. I am partial to BLR's Follidrone. It is an amazing staple in my arsenal. The purity of the (-)-Epi extract in it is unmatched.
 
CEL Epi-Plex is getting some really great feedback, and is very competitively priced. As far as I know, you can run it indefinitely.

Would stack nicely with PA, ArA, ABE.

No sides, just increased endurance, vascularity, etc.
 
Zariph said:
Hello - Just discovered those epic producst like FOllidron and Ep1c Unleashed and I've got some questions

1. Which product would you prefer?
2. For how long can these be run?
3. Can I stack these with ABE+X factor+Pa?
4. Any side effects?

Would really appreciate the help!
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1. Follidrone has almost pure Epicatechin 99+% and has TONS of great feedback.
2. You can run Follidrone year round with no problems.
3. Yes It stacks well with those and pretty much any other product.
4. 0 side effects except for a wicked pump in the gym.
 
brundel said:
1. Follidrone has almost pure Epicatechin 99+% and has TONS of great feedback.
2. You can run Follidrone year round with no problems.
3. Yes It stacks well with those and pretty much any other product.
4. 0 side effects except for a wicked pump in the gym.
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This. And it would stack greatly with everything you mentioned.
 
Yea follidrone is awesome! One of my all time fav products and I always have it in stock and use it often.
 
Def can stack those

I'd stack it with one of those for 8 weeks and take the other product and stack it with xgels .. Complete 16weeks beat non hormonal :)
 
Wow thx guys for the replies...!

Atm I got ABE, Xfactoradvanced, PA on hand....I see that it my be stupid to stack it all at once...so if I get some Follidrone, then how would you stack and run these supplemments;)?

Should I go like Week1-8 XFA+Folli+PA and then week 9-16 ABE+PA? and could I keep on running FOlli or should it be cycles as XFA and ABE?

Ohh, also got an unoppened bottle of DS activate xtreme and lean xtreme...not thought of using these but would they be good adding to anything?
 
I haven't taken PA or ABE, so I can't comment on the stacking of everything, but I like to run ArA products (i.e., X-Factor) at 1.5 grams pwo on lifting days only, for 50 workouts. So, if you lift 4-5 times/week, your run may be longer than 8 weeks
 
Zariph said:
Wow thx guys for the replies...!

Atm I got ABE, Xfactoradvanced, PA on hand....I see that it my be stupid to stack it all at once...so if I get some Follidrone, then how would you stack and run these supplemments;)?

Should I go like Week1-8 XFA+Folli+PA and then week 9-16 ABE+PA? and could I keep on running FOlli or should it be cycles as XFA and ABE?

Ohh, also got an unoppened bottle of DS activate xtreme and lean xtreme...not thought of using these but would they be good adding to anything?
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I would stack all of them if possible. Follidrone will help offset some of the inflammation sides from XFA.
Follidrone
XFA
PA
ABE

The combination should be pretty incredible. Follidrone can be run year round with no negative sides. I would for sure cycle XFA.
 
okay thx man tjhink I will do this
Weeks 1-8: ABE + ArA
Weeks 4-8: ABE + ArA + PA
Weeks 8-12: PA + ArA

Follidrone would be run from day 1
 
brundel said:
I would stack all of them if possible. Follidrone will help offset some of the inflammation sides from XFA.
Follidrone
XFA
PA
ABE

The combination should be pretty incredible. Follidrone can be run year round with no negative sides. I would for sure cycle XFA.
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Why so sure on the cycling of xfa? Aside from the bottle saying it.
 
I pmd you the response. If I publicly posted it there would be hatred from those who sell it.
 
I did a log for CEL epi plex and it worked very well for me. I stocked up because it's cheap and effective. If you'd like to look over my log it's "Matt's epi plex log" in the sup log section
 
Matthandyo said:
I did a log for CEL epi plex and it worked very well for me. I stocked up because it's cheap and effective. If you'd like to look over my log it's "Matt's epi plex log" in the sup log section
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Glad you liked it. For the quality and price it can't be beat
 
Matthandyo said:
I did a log for CEL epi plex and it worked very well for me. I stocked up because it's cheap and effective. If you'd like to look over my log it's "Matt's epi plex log" in the sup log section
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Definitely worth every penny. Glad you enjoyed your run!
 
Ep1c unleashed is legit. best supp ive ever used by far. Next best for me would be magnitropin but ep1c unleashed is better. Cant speak for follidrone never used it. But i can say i have never heard of a none responder to ep1c unleasshed were as follidrone it happens quite a bit(not a quality issue, the quality is some of the best out there, but rather an absorption issue which they are releasing a newer which will take care of the absorption issue.)
 
brundel said:
1. Follidrone has almost pure Epicatechin 99+% and has TONS of great feedback.
2. You can run Follidrone year round with no problems.
3. Yes It stacks well with those and pretty much any other product.
4. 0 side effects except for a wicked pump in the gym.
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Do you have any post production labs showing 99%. I'm certain that either a typo or outright lie
 
Zariph said:
Hello - Just discovered those epic producst like FOllidron and Ep1c Unleashed and I've got some questions

1. Which product would you prefer?
2. For how long can these be run?
3. Can I stack these with ABE+X factor+Pa?
4. Any side effects?

Would really appreciate the help!
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1. EP1C Unleashed will change your training for life
2. Year round I'm running 3 weeks on 1 off.
3. It stacks very well with ArA, ABE is more diet dependent and goal dependent but won't hurt a bit, PA hhmmmm I don't see a reason why not but I haven't personally and I haven't seen results of a real world benefit within a log YET to say.
4. Side effects: impressive endurance boosts, recomp effects, and increased vascularity. All these things attribute to an impressive boost to exercise endurance, quality, and recovery time. Bottom line with EPIC Unleashed you can go wrong. Yea it's going to sound biased but it's where I've spent my very own money so take it for what it's worth.
 
TheMovement said:
1. EP1C Unleashed will change your training for life
2. Year round I'm running 3 weeks on 1 off.
3. It stacks very well with ArA, ABE is more diet dependent and goal dependent but won't hurt a bit, PA hhmmmm I don't see a reason why not but I haven't personally and I haven't seen results of a real world benefit within a log YET to say.
4. Side effects: impressive endurance boosts, recomp effects, and increased vascularity. All these things attribute to an impressive boost to exercise endurance, quality, and recovery time. Bottom line with EPIC Unleashed you can go wrong. Yea it's going to sound biased but it's where I've spent my very own money so take it for what it's worth.
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PA is awesome but at much higher doses i was using 7 tablespoons of fearn and it work wonders.
 
TheMovement said:
1. EP1C Unleashed will change your training for life
2. Year round I'm running 3 weeks on 1 off.
3. It stacks very well with ArA, ABE is more diet dependent and goal dependent but won't hurt a bit, PA hhmmmm I don't see a reason why not but I haven't personally and I haven't seen results of a real world benefit within a log YET to say.
4. Side effects: impressive endurance boosts, recomp effects, and increased vascularity. All these things attribute to an impressive boost to exercise endurance, quality, and recovery time. Bottom line with EPIC Unleashed you can go wrong. Yea it's going to sound biased but it's where I've spent my very own money so take it for what it's worth.
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Whats this cycling business!?! You are restricting yourself of enhanced gainzzzzzz every forth week?
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Whats this cycling business!?! You are restricting yourself of enhanced gainzzzzzz every forth week?
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I actually found myself pushing thing too far and found myself having nagging new injuries that just didn't make sense. Having used Epi for over a year I can say for me my 3on1off not only works wonders but keeps me humble as well. Touey ran his similar
 
TheMovement said:
I actually found myself pushing thing too far and found myself having nagging new injuries that just didn't make sense. Having used Epi for over a year I can say for me my 3on1off not only works wonders but keeps me humble as well. Touey ran his similar
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Ahh yes, understandable. Nothing worse than striding 3 steps forward get a nagging injury and having to take two steps back...
 
brundel said:
1. Follidrone has almost pure Epicatechin 99+% and has TONS of great feedback.
2. You can run Follidrone year round with no problems.
3. Yes It stacks well with those and pretty much any other product.
4. 0 side effects except for a wicked pump in the gym.
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Another side effect would be pounds upon pounds of lean muscle mass with a heavy calorie surplus and a good training routine.
 
rtmilburn said:
PA is awesome but at much higher doses i was using 7 tablespoons of fearn and it work wonders.
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PA is deff one of the BEST natty products.
I bet with the right dosage there would not be non responders.
It will activate mTOR signaling and increase Glycogen retention.
 
I have used the Follidrone and agree with the statements below

1. Follidrone has almost pure Epicatechin 99+% and has TONS of great feedback.
2. You can run Follidrone year round with no problems.
3. Yes It stacks well with those and pretty much any other product.
4. 0 side effects except for a wicked pump in the gym
 
mw1 said:
Do you have any post production labs showing 99%. I'm certain that either a typo or outright lie
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I really doubt its 99+% .
People who have no clue about testing methods would maybe believe it.
Like I have said many times. Who want to pay a vendor 2-3x more just to get from 95% to 98% . That seems not logical at all. And supplements would cost 100$ bottle and not 30-40.
 
Zariph said:
Well as far as I can see, the follidrone>Ep1c unleashed?
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Disagree big time. Its not like i am a rep for OL pushing EP1C Unleashed either. I am just a customer providing my honest opinion. If you haven't notice MOST of the people recommending follidrone in THIS thread are reps. If you haven't tried EP1C Unleashed you wont regret it. Also like i said before i have not heard of a non responder with EP1C Unleashd. Were as with follidrone it is fairly common.
 
rtmilburn said:
Disagree big time. Its not like i am a rep for OL pushing EP1C Unleashed either. I am just a customer providing my honest opinion. If you haven't notice MOST of the people recommending follidrone in THIS thread are reps. If you haven't tried EP1C Unleashed you wont regret it. Also like i said before i have not heard of a non responder with EP1C Unleashd. Were as with follidrone it is fairly common.
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There are just as many reps from the other (-)-Epi brands promoting their products as well. Several of the people preferring Follidrone are not affiliated with BLR. They are simply satisfied customers. Remember, Follidrone was the first dedicated (-)-Epi product. It is still the same kickass product that brought (-)-Epicatechin into the spotlight. Everyone has their own version now and almost all are good based on a stellar ingredient. At BLR we are also working on bringing a newer, more powerful version of Follidrone to the market in the near future. That being said, Follidrone is still a heavyweight contender among (-)-Epi products:)
 
Jebrook said:
There are just as many reps from the other (-)-Epi brands promoting their products as well. Several of the people preferring Follidrone are not affiliated with BLR. They are simply satisfied customers. Remember, Follidrone was the first dedicated (-)-Epi product. It is still the same kickass product that brought (-)-Epicatechin into the spotlight. Everyone has their own version now and almost all are good based on a stellar ingredient. At BLR we are also working on bringing a newer, more powerful version of Follidrone to the market in the near future. That being said, Follidrone is still a heavyweight contender among (-)-Epi products:)
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This^. Not a rep and love follidrone. See OL reps starting stuff with brundel all the time but hey everyone's always trying to knock the king off the hill. Try a month of epic and a month of follidrone, let the products do the talking and then make a decision.
 
Jebrook said:
There are just as many reps from the other (-)-Epi brands promoting their products as well. Several of the people preferring Follidrone are not affiliated with BLR. They are simply satisfied customers. Remember, Follidrone was the first dedicated (-)-Epi product. It is still the same kickass product that brought (-)-Epicatechin into the spotlight. Everyone has their own version now and almost all are good based on a stellar ingredient. At BLR we are also working on bringing a newer, more powerful version of Follidrone to the market in the near future. That being said, Follidrone is still a heavyweight contender among (-)-Epi products:)
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Im not discrediting BLR, follidrone or any of their reps. I think that BLR is a great company and follidrone is a good product but for the time being is inferior to EP1C Unleashed. I am excited to see the new version of follidrone and i will probably be picking up a bottle of it to test it
 
pfresh said:
This^. Not a rep and love follidrone. See OL reps starting stuff with brundel all the time but hey everyone's always trying to knock the king off the hill. Try a month of epic and a month of follidrone, let the products do the talking and then make a decision.
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Just hard to see a product with a lower dose being more efficacious, especially without any absorption enhancers.

Also, that 99+% claim......:rolleyes:
 
BTW Ep1c unleashed is the better version from Olympus labs? Since they also got a product just named Ep1C
 
Misfit28 said:
Just hard to see a product with a lower dose being more efficacious, especially without any absorption enhancers.

Also, that 99+% claim......:rolleyes:
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Fair enough but OL GMP claim seems silly too. That's why i say let the products do the talking, try both, ignore the labels and see which one you like. Keep an open mind and enjoy, no point in being a fanboy
 
pfresh said:
Fair enough but OL GMP claim seems silly too. That's why i say let the products do the talking, try both, ignore the labels and see which one you like. Keep an open mind and enjoy, no point in being a fanboy
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Have you tried EPIC Unleashed?
 
Zariph said:
BTW Ep1c unleashed is the better version from Olympus labs? Since they also got a product just named Ep1C
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Ep1c unleashed is the newer version that provides -epi with enhanced absorption.

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pfresh said:
Fair enough but OL GMP claim seems silly too. That's why i say let the products do the talking, try both, ignore the labels and see which one you like. Keep an open mind and enjoy, no point in being a fanboy
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, IMO.
 
rtmilburn said:
Disagree big time. Its not like i am a rep for OL pushing EP1C Unleashed either. I am just a customer providing my honest opinion. If you haven't notice MOST of the people recommending follidrone in THIS thread are reps. If you haven't tried EP1C Unleashed you wont regret it. Also like i said before i have not heard of a non responder with EP1C Unleashd. Were as with follidrone it is fairly common.
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Didnt you just post that you cant comment on Follidrone because you havent tried it yet? So why are you now comments on it lol
 
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