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BLACK LION RESEARCH NEW (-)-EPICATECHIN

I'm in for a bottle of the TD, maybe two when it launches.
 
I like the label also!!
 
Jebrook said:
Nice!!! I was just thinking red lettering would look good the other day. Glad it has nothing cheesy like flames. Of course that's not how we roll at BLR. Serious products for those that want sick results!
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Incinderine has flames and it doesn't look lame ;)
 
I want that!

(from Napoleon Dynamite)
 
Jebrook said:
Lol. I'd always seen a plain white label on the supp sites. Just looked up the other one. You're right it doesn't look cheesy at all. :)
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Yeah we have the white label up at strong so I can see the confusion
 
I tried flames and all kinds of things but ultimately the low level inner and outer glow worked much better.
Incinderine has flames on the bottle but not flame text. It looks cheesy IMHO to have funky text. I can think of a few labels I have seen like this and they look very unprofessional or like they are being marketed to children. It can be hard to draw the line between getting peoples attention and dressing it up like Ronald Mcdonalds pimp cup. Clean almost always works but I like to have at least some graphic on there.
 
brundel said:
I tried flames and all kinds of things but ultimately the low level inner and outer glow worked much better.
Incinderine has flames on the bottle but not flame text. It looks cheesy IMHO to have funky text. I can think of a few labels I have seen like this and they look very unprofessional or like they are being marketed to children. It can be hard to draw the line between getting peoples attention and dressing it up like Ronald Mcdonalds pimp cup. Clean almost always works but I like to have at least some graphic on there.
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The right font is an important part of graphic
Design and Logo creation.

I've been in marketing for 25 years and almost
Never but a product if I think their branding
Is lame.
 
True dat ^ ;)
 
brundel said:
I tried flames and all kinds of things but ultimately the low level inner and outer glow worked much better.
Incinderine has flames on the bottle but not flame text. It looks cheesy IMHO to have funky text. I can think of a few labels I have seen like this and they look very unprofessional or like they are being marketed to children. It can be hard to draw the line between getting peoples attention and dressing it up like Ronald Mcdonalds pimp cup. Clean almost always works but I like to have at least some graphic on there.
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For what it's worth, I really like the consistency of the molecular/DNA type graphics that most all of the products have.
 
Pre-sale is up for exotherm guys. Fast shipping just like we did with letrone ;) we should have it by mid next week but i can promise as soon as it hits our warehouse we will ship. It's nice because we have a warehouse in so cal and BLR is based out of so cal so we receive the product very quickly.

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Afi140 said:
Pre-sale is up for exotherm guys. Fast shipping just like we did with letrone ;) as soon as it hits our warehouse we ship. It's nice because we have a warehouse in so cal and BLR is based out of so cal so we receive the product very quickly.

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Just fyi. Exotherm hasnt even been manufactured yet so the listing is a bit premature. Product will be ready for shipping on mon tues.
 
brundel said:
Just fyi. Exotherm hasnt even been manufactured yet so the listing is a bit premature. Product will be ready for shipping on mon tues.
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sounds good :) edited post to reflect
 
TGB Supplements should have it by Monday or Tuesday next week...

Orders should be shipping out to customers by next Thursday or Friday..!

Get it on Pre-Sale @ TGB Supplements....

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Alot going on. Really we just need to pull the trigger. I dont have a release date yet though. Ill keep everyone posted.
 
brundel said:
Alot going on. Really we just need to pull the trigger. I dont have a release date yet though. Ill keep everyone posted.
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Now that Letrone and exotherm have been released, any timetable when the new epi will be released?
 
halfhuman said:
A lot of work is being done. I won't say anytime soon but soon. I'll try n get a more accurate answer
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I want to try this now. The pumps I've gotten off epi have been incredible. The stuff makes me so damn hungry. I've gone up 10 pounds in 7 weeks. I upped my protein considerably at the same time. I put on all this weight while following carb backloading and doing full body workouts every other day. Meaning only eating carbs post work out every other day. My weight went from 196- 198 to 208 to 211
 
10 pounds in 7 weeks? how much of a caloric surplus were you taking in?
 
Matthandyo said:
10 pounds in 7 weeks? how much of a caloric surplus were you taking in?
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From my eating previous to the epi start i was doing a cyclo keto diet to shred up. So i was only carbing up once a week. On non carb days i added in about 50 grams protein and about 15 grams fat but on carb backload days easily an additional 250 grams of carbs. So that would be haha about an extra 750 to 1000 grams carbs a week and an additional 350 grams protein a week and fat would then be an extra 105 grams
 
pfresh said:
From my eating previous to the epi start i was doing a cyclo keto diet to shred up. So i was only carbing up once a week. On non carb days i added in about 50 grams protein and about 15 grams fat but on carb backload days easily an additional 250 grams of carbs. So that would be haha about an extra 750 to 1000 grams carbs a week and an additional 350 grams protein a week and fat would then be an extra 105 grams
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I'd like to add that body fat gains have been minor and unnoticeable but i think this could be contributed to factors outside of epi.
 
nice, thats good that it was a relatively lean gain. The reason i asked is because my results were somewhat similar. I gained 5 pounds in 4 weeks supplementing with -epi
 
Matthandyo said:
nice, thats good that it was a relatively lean gain. The reason i asked is because my results were somewhat similar. I gained 5 pounds in 4 weeks supplementing with -epi
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I'm going to stay on for another 5 weeks then I'm gonna drop it and go back to cyclo keto. For a month then probably do another 3 month recomp run. That'll get rid of any body fat i have put on recently and i think I'm going to throw in erase pro and see If i can keep up the lean gains. I ran eliminate for the last 7 weeks with this but in a week I'm going to drop it. Don't want to stay on anti e too long. Really hoping the new epi product is out before my next run of follidrone
 
pfresh said:
I'm going to stay on for another 5 weeks then I'm gonna drop it and go back to cyclo keto. For a month then probably do another 3 month recomp run. That'll get rid of any body fat i have put on recently and i think I'm going to throw in erase pro and see If i can keep up the lean gains. I ran eliminate for the last 7 weeks with this but in a week I'm going to drop it. Don't want to stay on anti e too long. Really hoping the new epi product is out before my next run of follidrone
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That's sounds like a solid plan bro. If you already have the Epro then run it, but you should read up on Letrone. It will dry you out and reduce estrogen up to 94%, but it also lends a lot of other anabolics benefits that many other AI's do not. It will help:


-Reduce estrogen levels

-Increased test levels

-Increased HGH and IGF-1 levels

-Increased T3 and T4

This means lean gains and also reducing body-fat.
 
Jebrook said:
That's sounds like a solid plan bro. If you already have the Epro then run it, but you should read up on Letrone. It will dry you out and reduce estrogen up to 94%, but it also lends a lot of other anabolics benefits that many other AI's do not. It will help:


-Reduce estrogen levels

-Increased test levels

-Increased HGH and IGF-1 levels

-Increased T3 and T4

This means lean gains and also reducing body-fat.
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Twist my arm, alright I'm in for the ride. I'm new to the a.m. forums but my interest has been sparked. I have to wait awhile to run another anti estrogen but when i do again i will do 8 weeks letrone/ follidrone and ill probably make it my first log. Ill include before and after picks so people know I'm not talking bs about follidrone plus anti e being the bees knees lean bulk stack
 
The new EPi product is not just epi either. It has 2 new Active ingredients nobody has used to my knowledge.
VERY solid. Like comparable to Epi potentially with regards to their ability to increase Follistatin. Testers are BUGGIN for more.
 
brundel said:
The new EPi product is not just epi either. It has 2 new Active ingredients nobody has used to my knowledge.
VERY solid. Like comparable to Epi potentially with regards to their ability to increase Follistatin. Testers are BUGGIN for more.
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Yes!!! Give me!!!!! PLEASE!!!
 
Time to release ??
 
Its more about timing. With so many epicatechin products coming out now I wanted to wait until there wasnt another company pushing their new epi product. This stuff is a whole new ballgame so...
Im thinking we may release very soon actually.
Im gonna crunch some numbers tonight and see how quickly we can get this done. Its all about getting the raws at this point. I have 30kg of epicatechin so we are good there. I just need the other 4 ingredients which can likely be manufactured for us within 10 days.

This will be a larger bottle as there are more ingredients. So 3-4 caps daily. 90-120 caps per bottle.
So.....its epicatechin, plus solid absorption enhancement and 2 new ingredients ;)
We studied a ton of absorption options and almost nothing really made a difference. The stuff we are using DID make a difference for all 10 testers.
 
You better let me try it...Just to be sure!!
 
brundel said:
Its more about timing. With so many epicatechin products coming out now I wanted to wait until there wasnt another company pushing their new epi product. This stuff is a whole new ballgame so...
Im thinking we may release very soon actually.
Im gonna crunch some numbers tonight and see how quickly we can get this done. Its all about getting the raws at this point. I have 30kg of epicatechin so we are good there. I just need the other 4 ingredients which can likely be manufactured for us within 10 days.

This will be a larger bottle as there are more ingredients. So 3-4 caps daily. 90-120 caps per bottle.

So.....its epicatechin, plus solid absorption enhancement and 2 new ingredients ;)
We studied a ton of absorption options and almost nothing really made a difference. The stuff we are using DID make a difference for all 10 testers.
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Very interesting, so you are following the Myosynergy/Myo Elite direction. Will be cool to see how they compare..

Are you going to be discontinuing regular Follidrone?
 
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