Too much HICA?
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Driven2lift
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No negative effects should be seen
BRUstrong
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OP, I'm not knowledgeable about studies on HICA. I do know that 2g seems to be the common dose. As Driven said, I haven't heard about any negative sides at around 4 doses and have used 4g or more myself (E9 + Amino IV) in the past with no problems.
I see your question is in regard to wasting product. While that may be a concern if you were supplementing with bulk HICA, I don't see how you can get around it if you are using other products that have HICA as an included ingredient. I assume you take your pre for other reasons (energy, pump, focus, etc) and same with your intra (endurance, pump, recovery, etc). Myosynergy has benefits well above and beyond HICA so you'd be taking that for different reasons as well. Because all of these products have HICA, there will certainly be some degree of "wasting" but if you drop one of your current products, you lose the benefits that you derive from said product.
Make sense? Sometimes I ramble and confuse myself!
I see your question is in regard to wasting product. While that may be a concern if you were supplementing with bulk HICA, I don't see how you can get around it if you are using other products that have HICA as an included ingredient. I assume you take your pre for other reasons (energy, pump, focus, etc) and same with your intra (endurance, pump, recovery, etc). Myosynergy has benefits well above and beyond HICA so you'd be taking that for different reasons as well. Because all of these products have HICA, there will certainly be some degree of "wasting" but if you drop one of your current products, you lose the benefits that you derive from said product.
Make sense? Sometimes I ramble and confuse myself!
avega17
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No it makes sense, and I was going to end up doing it anyways for that very reason. I'm going to be alternating between E9 or Alphamine pre/intra on top of the Myosynergy and obviously they all have benefits outside of HICA. I was just wondering about diminishing returns because I have not seen doses higher than 2g.
BRUstrong
Well-known member
I've used Alphamine pre with E9 intra numerous times. Great combo.
avega17
Member
Yea that comes out to just under 2g for me. But like I said, I'm take the products for other reasons so I'm gonna be getting more anyways. Hopefully it does me some good while in a deficit.
MidwestBeast
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Let us know what you notice. I'm curious.
I've been using MyoSynergy since it was released and just finally started Strafe, which adds some more into the mix. Doubt it would be from this, but I can say my muscles have been fuller/more dense the past few days (even the day following low carbs and 2.5 hours of sprinting via basketball lol).
Driven2lift
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Big agreement here, killer combo pre workout or even pre cardio or upon waking
Fat loss synergy ftw
I can't imagine it being a bad thing either
The fact companies (well the good ones) have increased the dose so much from the old standard is a hint to this
The 1.5g in Ergonine is a favourite addition for me
Same statement as above, it's lucky products are using good doses now for you
And HICA is an all-star in a caloric deficit, exactly what it is designed for. Hold onto more lean mass
Been a while since HICA had more in depth discussion, good thread.
As a reminder you get a solid 1.5g HICA in Ergonine on top of 8 more effective ingredients all at their studied dose, and the entire product is under $1/day from athletixsports.com
+ 0.99 same day domestic shipping
+ am extra 10% off with "driven"
avega17
Member
Been on E9 since its release, it's good stuff.
avega17
Member
Agreed, but it's 4g in the pre-intra workout window because of product overlap
dsade
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then yeah, you are definitely getting some waste in there.
The new MyoSynergy Elite, because of a few reasons, drops the HICA dosage to 1g.
avega17
Member
On week 2 on my first time running Myosynergy. On the lookout for elite when it drops to see if I can start it up after these 4 weeks. So far haven't noticed much except some fullness (just finished some fasted cardio and I was flat when I woke up and surprisingly full when I was done), but I except to see more this coming week.