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SHIFT PEScience

FireRescue said:
Per the label: pescience.com/SHIFTstacks is currently not a working url. Other than that I do not see any other specific recommendations for combining it with Alpha/Norco on the label.

What are the advantages/disadvantage to splitting the Shift up to 1 cap AM/1 cap PM (say with the second Alpha/Norco a dose of the day). Coop stated in a post he feels the label directions (1-2 AM on an empty stomach) is the most effective way to use Shift. Will the intended results be just as good with a split dosing schedule?
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I realize the website is not up, hence why I posted the suggestion; I do not have a copy of the bottle in front of me, but the render of the label from months ago (from when we finished the formula) contained info on how to stack them so I assumed the final copy would :) I figured I should post anyway in case it didn't!

Advantages is that the product will be working all day long, and will make the appetite suppressant effects last much longer. Major disadvantage for splitting up the doses and combining with Norcodrene or Alphamine later is it might make it harder for you to fall asleep. We are a bit behind on some other stuff, but we will have a detailed Shift write up somewhat soon for how to best combine Shift with Norcodrene/ or Alphamine for every type of individual (night owls, people who need to sleep early, etc). The results will be just as good since most studies on the ingredients are based on daily totals, which you would still meet.
 
Synapsin said:
I realize the website is not up, hence why I posted the suggestion; I do not have a copy of the bottle in front of me, but the render of the label from months ago (from when we finished the formula) contained info on how to stack them so I assumed the final copy would :) I figured I should post anyway in case it didn't!

Advantages is that the product will be working all day long, and will make the appetite suppressant effects last much longer. Major disadvantage for splitting up the doses and combining with Norcodrene or Alphamine later is it might make it harder for you to fall asleep. We are a bit behind on some other stuff, but we will have a detailed Shift write up somewhat soon for how to best combine Shift with Norcodrene/ or Alphamine for every type of individual (night owls, people who need to sleep early, etc). The results will be just as good since most studies on the ingredients are based on daily totals, which you would still meet.
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i love it when you talk dirty
 
So after 5 days on Shift, I can say for sure this stuff really works great with Alphamine for significantly more appetite suppression, have yet to try it with Norcod yet.
 
Synapsin said:
I realize the website is not up, hence why I posted the suggestion; I do not have a copy of the bottle in front of me, but the render of the label from months ago (from when we finished the formula) contained info on how to stack them so I assumed the final copy would :) I figured I should post anyway in case it didn't!

Advantages is that the product will be working all day long, and will make the appetite suppressant effects last much longer. Major disadvantage for splitting up the doses and combining with Norcodrene or Alphamine later is it might make it harder for you to fall asleep. We are a bit behind on some other stuff, but we will have a detailed Shift write up somewhat soon for how to best combine Shift with Norcodrene/ or Alphamine for every type of individual (night owls, people who need to sleep early, etc). The results will be just as good since most studies on the ingredients are based on daily totals, which you would still meet.
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Thanks for the reply :)
 
cbsharpe said:
Agreed! Experiencing the same thing....amazing.
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My favourite part about it is, ususally after i break my fast and eat my hunger increases exponetially, even after a big meal. The last few days, I feel content (not full per se) after eating and can comfortably controll my food intake. GOOD PES!
 
NoAddedHmones said:
My favourite part about it is, ususally after i break my fast and eat my hunger increases exponetially, even after a big meal. The last few days, I feel content (not full per se) after eating and can comfortably controll my food intake. GOOD PES!
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You nailed it! Exactly how it is for me as well. Here I thought I was the only one experiencing the effects.......
 
cbsharpe said:
I've noticed that Shift has killed some of my hunger....is this normal?

Other than that, I've been taking 2 in the morning....so far, so good.
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Odd, I took 1 cap on Saturday and Sunday and felt more hungry than normal!

Worryingly I am not sure how to dose this...I took one cap both days and had to visit the bathroom at irregular times if you catch my drift. I know it is the F-95 on an empty stomach but I workout in the morning and only take some Aminos.
 
Shin Sprints said:
Odd, I took 1 cap on Saturday and Sunday and felt more hungry than normal!

Worryingly I am not sure how to dose this...I took one cap both days and had to visit the bathroom at irregular times if you catch my drift. I know it is the F-95 on an empty stomach but I workout in the morning and only take some Aminos.
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I experience similar problems with forskolin, I train fasted in the morning as well. I end up feeling bloated and funny for a few days when I start taking it, but if I keep it consistent the side effects go away. The first few days on the new Shift weren't fun though
 
johntpatterso said:
I experience similar problems with forskolin, I train fasted in the morning as well. I end up feeling bloated and funny for a few days when I start taking it, but if I keep it consistent the side effects go away. The first few days on the new Shift weren't fun though
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Thanks.

I can't seem to tolerate Forsolin well at all. I have take ABE before but I found that I tolerated better when taking with food...problem is that Shift I think is better pre-workout.

I didn't take it this morning. I am undecided as to how to proceed...keep with it or leave it for a while until I figure best way to dose.
 
Shin Sprints said:
Thanks.

I can't seem to tolerate Forsolin well at all. I have take ABE before but I found that I tolerated better when taking with food...problem is that Shift I think is better pre-workout.

I didn't take it this morning. I am undecided as to how to proceed...keep with it or leave it for a while until I figure best way to dose.
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Yeah that's the unfortunate problem with Shift. Its best dosed on an empty stomach for a better environment for fat loss, whereas ABE is best taken with food. Its tricky if forskolin bothers you that much because the shift won't be as effective if taken with a meal. I hate the stomach discomfort, but I love the results I get from forskolin. I'm just gonna push through it for this month and reap the benefits of the product. I feel your pain though man!
 
johntpatterso said:
Yeah that's the unfortunate problem with Shift. Its best dosed on an empty stomach for a better environment for fat loss, whereas ABE is best taken with food. Its tricky if forskolin bothers you that much because the shift won't be as effective if taken with a meal. I hate the stomach discomfort, but I love the results I get from forskolin. I'm just gonna push through it for this month and reap the benefits of the product. I feel your pain though man!
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It helps knowing I am not alone :-p

I bought 6 bottles...I better get used to the stomach upset.
 
With forskolin, the issues normally go away after a few days of continuous dosing. Try that, and if its still an issue, let us know
 
Shin Sprints said:
It helps knowing I am not alone :-p

I bought 6 bottles...I better get used to the stomach upset.
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I would agree that I'm having less digestive issues after the first few days of dosing. Buuuuut worst case scenario, in the event that you can't use the it, I am always in the market to purchase more at a discounted rate ;) Keep me in mind if you decide you don't want it or you want to get rid of some of it haha. Good luck man
 
I used to take Forskolin at 100mg and it used to give me the sharts, but after a week or so my body seemed to just get used to it and it's all good now.
 
FYI, looks like Orbit is offering a Combustion + Shift deal

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Nevermind, looking like it was an old promo that I stumbled across. Got all excited for nothing :(
 
Shin Sprints said:
Will do! Thanks.
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First visit of the day...2.5 hours after taking one cap.

The thing is I can put up with the discomfort but I just started taking a Magnatropic/Alphadex stack. I dosed all at the same time, I am wondering if the washroom inconvenience is going to have adverse affects in the Mag/Alpha stack effectiveness?

Thanks.
 
Shin Sprints said:
First visit of the day...2.5 hours after taking one cap.

The thing is I can put up with the discomfort but I just started taking a Magnatropic/Alphadex stack. I dosed all at the same time, I am wondering if the washroom inconvenience is going to have adverse affects in the Mag/Alpha stack effectiveness?

Thanks.
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Flushable wet wipes are your friend. Good luck as I have the same GI problems when taking forskolin.
 
I started this week with 1 shift/Norco/1 scoop alphamine am pre breakfast (Select protein shake is my breakfast). EP, CLA, Raspberry Ketones, some leftover non stim Hydroxicut with breakfast. Lunch I take AE along with second dose of CLA/RT/Hydro and 5-6 after pre am take second dose of shift/Norco. Dinner I take second does of AE.

So far been feeling pretty good. Sweating more as anticipated. So we will see how this goes. Have second batch of EP/AE on order for second month.
 
Shin Sprints said:
First visit of the day...2.5 hours after taking one cap.

The thing is I can put up with the discomfort but I just started taking a Magnatropic/Alphadex stack. I dosed all at the same time, I am wondering if the washroom inconvenience is going to have adverse affects in the Mag/Alpha stack effectiveness?

Thanks.
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Move your Mag/Alphadex dose to later in the day?

I feel your pain my man. Forskolin at any dose is no bueno with me and it's the only ingredient that does it to me. I actually take Metamucil so hopefully it will bulk up my poos a bit (yes I'm bulking). F-95 is no help with the bathroom issues and many of us. It's just a side effect of forskolin. For me it doesn't really get better over time though some people it does.

I don't get a lot of discomfort, but I do get liquid constantly. And sometimes I will be in the bathroom almost all day it seems.

It may help to take one shift early and one later in the day spreading out your dosages. This might help a bit.
 
Geoforce said:
Move your Mag/Alphadex dose to later in the day?

I feel your pain my man. Forskolin at any dose is no bueno with me and it's the only ingredient that does it to me. I actually take Metamucil so hopefully it will bulk up my poos a bit (yes I'm bulking). F-95 is no help with the bathroom issues and many of us. It's just a side effect of forskolin. For me it doesn't really get better over time though some people it does.

I don't get a lot of discomfort, but I do get liquid constantly. And sometimes I will be in the bathroom almost all day it seems.

It may help to take one shift early and one later in the day spreading out your dosages. This might help a bit.
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Thanks. 25mg (1 cap) seems to be enough to get me visiting. I will see if it dissipates over the next week, if not I will have to experiment with other timings.

Yeah, same, not discomfort as in pain but discomfort as in regular visitation and liquid (I am worried the liquid means that whatever nutrients I am taking is just flowing straight back out.

I am taking the Mag/Alpha pre as I thought that was the best time, the second dosage of both is about 12 hours later with my biggest meal.
 
uhmmm reading you guys experimenting this great product, just wanted to say thanks to you all for sharing, this is going to be very useful as I am starting logging it this Monday :) and I cannot wait, thanks once again for sharing your experiences :)
 
Just checking in since I've been on this for about a week now. I'm taking this with about 225 mg of diiodothyronine (I take 225 mg. 3X per day), 25 mg. of ephedrine and 200 mg of caffeine every morning, on an empty stomach.

I notice no real stimulatory effects, no real warmth, pretty much nothing. Fat loss doesn't appear to be much faster than it has been in previous weeks, maybe a little slower, although I did have 2 extra cheat meals in the past week due to mother's day and some other events. Still, results seem to be minimal so far. Doesn't mean that won't change though.

It has become warmer out weather wise in the past week, and sometimes I wonder if I am having a harder time dealing with the extra heat (meaning maybe it is warming me up and I don't realize), a couple of times I thought my feet felt like they were sweating and that is abnormal for me (but this could be mental), and part of me thinks I see some added definition, even though my scale hasn't moved much. This could mean that I just WANT it to work, or that I'm just having a slow week and it is just doing its thing and I'll have a whoosh soon....
 
I've been taking 2 caps shift and 4 caps ABE every day(not all at the same time) and no Forskolin related issues at all, even when I first started ABE....so I feel lucky after hearing some of the problems some of you are having....so praise Moses for that.
 
What are the "feelings" loool any sensation?
 
Thx guys! I can't wait!!!!! Monday log start ha!
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Do you cut year round?? Always seeing you smashing multiple fat burners lol
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Usually I try to stay really lean all year cause of the competitions (thai boxe) to mantain the right weight but this winter I've been on var and I got almost 5-6 kg since last June, of which at least 3-4 water/fat so I'm trying to get back in shape before next championship season will start :)

Fat burners are my drug tho, I'm addicted to their effects like laser focused mind or see through ppl/walls ha!
 
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