Running the Tri-Fecta Bridging 3 Cycles into 1 Big Tamale!

KilaCali said:
Looks like I have a couple weeks of the TreST so maybe another 3-4 weeks, I might get a little vial of something else to run with it until they run out the pinnin has been great, a lot easier and smoother then I thought, I still am not a fan of it but ya gotta dowhat ya gotta do!!
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Remember the trest deca stays in the system a good 4 weeks or longer after last inject so even if technically you only have a couple weeks you will still be "on"
 
707kid said:
I feel like that last sentence should be on a t-shirt
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Put it on a shirt and sell it with "AM" in small letters below it. This way we can identity our own on the streets and organize against the other forums, especially those blue bb.com guys. They are blue and we are red.
 
Abe Lincoln said:
I've learned much from this thread, mainly anabolic minds is the yard. Get hard or get shanked.
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LOL Hell yea, ive checked out a lot of other forums and they are ok but it seems like dudes are more serious and down to earth on here. that funny were red and the other guys are blue, starting a movement here abe's og shot caller hahah
 
jmyers said:
Go AM or go home!! Nothing else matters!

Looking good bro! Keep putting in the hard work!
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Hell yea, I feel like if I'm sharing my logs with everyone on here I gotta put in that extra 150% for the AM Nation. huge love & respect for every1
 
Good to see you got your sides under control. Curious to see where the injects take you. Pics are looking good Cali!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Good to see you got your sides under control. Curious to see where the injects take you. Pics are looking good Cali!
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thank you bro, very much appreciated as always!! means a lot coming from you.
the sides are grounded from the rest of the cycle! and after lol.. and the injects already seem to be making a daily difference feeling more solid, massive, stronger, I am experiencing the aggressiveness and the little euphoric alpha feeling!
 
Nice, gotta love that!
 
BRO'S!!! Sorry for the Hiatus, lot of B.S. going on in the personal life that has me literally running around non stop without no break accept for this 5 minuteds before I have to split out again..

Havent been able to hit the gym more then 2x this week and 3 last week, very ****ty, but next week will be better and back to more action soon as things slow down and im able to schedule my time right, plus I got some goodies on the way to finish this off with a bang and try to salvage what I feel is a sporadic and craptastic log lately, I really apologize to all of you once again, though I know my good friends yates, dma and some of you others are running some kickass logs to stay busy I have been checking in as best I can lately and trying to let you all know im still here..

anyways nothing much to report, I finished the trest deconate two days ago, im down to about 3 servings of my ace which I have been feeling great for a while other then some slght joint discomfort from running the letro to get rid of my pesky nip issues I was having which im glad to report is almost completely gone.. still running .75 letro/ 10mg aromasin/10mg nolva (was doing 20 of the nolva for the last two weeks and dropped to 10 today, going to use the aromasin for its effects with letro for a couple more days to a week and then we'll go from there.

So I will be running two forms of test I will give more details tomorrow but I might possibly be throwing in 4 weeks of SD with it!! I know im crazy and I know it already, but like I said I have one hell of a pct setup for the two months following to make my natural test go nuclear for the come back!.. Weight has been holding steady at 188-192 once again as with what calories are consumed that day, trying to keep them in the upper range for the bulk and with the test and other addition I plan to hit it extra hard cause im aiming for the 200 mark,

i'm pretty lean right now, BF has to be somewhere around 12% I can always tell with my glutes cause their extremely tight and when im really bulked and carrying some extra I got the bubble butt goin.. plan to have that back in a couple weeks for everyones info.. anyways I wish you all the best and will be back VERY sooon to start putting in some serious work. love & respect to all of you!
 
When was the last time you took liver values? I've no problem with extending with test just a little iffy on the sd.
 
mixedup said:
When was the last time you took liver values? I've no problem with extending with test just a little iffy on the sd.
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Very good question my friend! I will probably be going in the next day or two at most before I dive into something else, it has been a couple weeks everything was really good as always but it can always change pretty quick, wondering how this trest affected me.. will get that in by Friday for you all.
 
KilaCali said:
Very good question my friend! I will probably be going in the next day or two at most before I dive into something else, it has been a couple weeks everything was really good as always but it can always change pretty quick, wondering how this trest affected me.. will get that in by Friday for you all.
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Unless checking test levels which will show lower from the trest it shouldn't of affected bloods too much
 
Yikes Man, SD after all of this huh... I have never been able to handle SD for long. I will only pulse it now. As long as your liver values are good do what you do.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yikes Man, SD after all of this huh... I have never been able to handle SD for long. I will only pulse it now. As long as your liver values are good do what you do.
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That's for sure. I have kept up leg training the whole time becuz it was allowed I have been doing bis and tris side lats traps abs

I just can't do heavy pulling or any pressing involving chest. Luckily chest is one of my natural points and stays pretty thick.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yikes Man, SD after all of this huh... I have never been able to handle SD for long. I will only pulse it now. As long as your liver values are good do what you do.
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Well I decided probably to avoid that, I am thinking on Saturday of trying to grab some Proviron or MasteronP though to finish this off.. so I started my Test today looks something like this...

Last Day of Trest Ace 50mg
Test P 100mg/10ml EOD Starting today (x20 days)
Test C 250mg/10ml E4D Starting today as well (5 weeks) I believe

Hopefully will be adding in something decent next week to stack the 4 weeks remaining like I said I would love some Master P or Proviron.. I'll figure it out by Saturday for sure and keep everyone updated..

as for the run thus far, Feeling great! routine will pickup again after all the sporadic changes in my schedule lately, all I can say is the trest really peaked the last 2 weeks, massive pumps, motivation and drive.. all day pretty much, sad to see it go today anyhow.. libido has stayed pretty solid the entire time on the tren and epi, and everything even when I was runnin letro strong and I hear people have issues on that, I can say ive had no issues what so ever with libido, really only dealt with lethargy for a week total when the letro was in full effect a couple weeks ago.. feel like non stop energy though all day and night,

Still running Prami but im down to 1 ML left im tapering off and possibly ordering another batch, been running 10mg nolva still but I might drop that very soon now that im not running any 19nor's, I've realized over this cycle they are to be respected! but they are awesome as well, orally and intramuscularly!

So Interested in everyones feedback to persuade me somewhat... Who thinks I should possibly use some hCG therapy prior to my pct/serms considering this has been a loooong cycle, I know that AAS is a different story and its better for long aas cycles and ive run PH's up unto the last couple weeks it still a pretty solid level of shutdown I figure ive put my little guys in, were looking at a total of 17 weeks and a day total on cycle, so I was thinking of doing the 10 day hCG trip around 10 days after my last injection, 10 days after that fire up my serms clomid and nolva, clomid for 4 weeks atleast and nolva for 6.. still thinking about adding different things in to it possibly extending the nolv to 8 weeks maybe... you guys tell me what you all think! Thanks L&R

P/S Edit I had my boy get me some pins and he ended up getting me some damn slimpins 30g 1/2" 1cc, I did 1 shoulder inject of .5ml it went very smooth, took a little longer to extract it.. but whats anyones experience with this and has anyone tried SubQ with these things, im just wondering for the next 4 or 5 days how im gonna make these work til my order comes in.. ? I don't think 1/2" is deep enough for glutes right? though I feel like I am lean enough that I could still pull off IM injections on most my body besides probably the glutes.. thanks for the nfo guys, always appreciate it!
 
Well I seem to have lost the crowd to the crickets unfortunately due to my lagging log, I apologize to all of you for not updating and making this the log I said it would be thus far, but I will bring life back soon, in the meantime I spotted a very interesting article on DHT I think everyone should check out and let me know what they think of it on BB.com, the link is

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and as always I will be updating soon, now that this sporadic and extremely stressful week is behind I can get back on track! love & respect to all of you and god bless!
 
Here as well, to the end!
 
Thanks guys, i'm wondering what happened to everyone, had around 20 people in this a couple months ago, guessin people just living their lives. I appreciate it though,. I feel like my previous 4-6 posts went to the crickets cause I didn't get no feedback at all, I don't know if its me, or them, or something completely different lol
 
Thank you bro and that's ok, there are some questions I threw out there that don't have to do with pinning and you can always throw anything out there for discussion
 
KilaCali said:
Thanks guys, i'm wondering what happened to everyone, had around 20 people in this a couple months ago, guessin people just living their lives. I appreciate it though,. I feel like my previous 4-6 posts went to the crickets cause I didn't get no feedback at all, I don't know if its me, or them, or something completely different lol
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This log is for your benifit, as long as you are still here that is all that matters. Now, let's finish this up strong!
 
Im still here too bro. Just havent had much experience with your compounds to help. But I'll chime in more. Keep up the hard work!
 
KilaCali said:
Well I decided probably to avoid that, I am thinking on Saturday of trying to grab some Proviron or MasteronP though to finish this off.. so I started my Test today looks something like this...

Last Day of Trest Ace 50mg
Test P 100mg/10ml EOD Starting today (x20 days)
Test C 250mg/10ml E4D Starting today as well (5 weeks) I believe

Hopefully will be adding in something decent next week to stack the 4 weeks remaining like I said I would love some Master P or Proviron.. I'll figure it out by Saturday for sure and keep everyone updated..

as for the run thus far, Feeling great! routine will pickup again after all the sporadic changes in my schedule lately, all I can say is the trest really peaked the last 2 weeks, massive pumps, motivation and drive.. all day pretty much, sad to see it go today anyhow.. libido has stayed pretty solid the entire time on the tren and epi, and everything even when I was runnin letro strong and I hear people have issues on that, I can say ive had no issues what so ever with libido, really only dealt with lethargy for a week total when the letro was in full effect a couple weeks ago.. feel like non stop energy though all day and night,

Still running Prami but im down to 1 ML left im tapering off and possibly ordering another batch, been running 10mg nolva still but I might drop that very soon now that im not running any 19nor's, I've realized over this cycle they are to be respected! but they are awesome as well, orally and intramuscularly!

So Interested in everyones feedback to persuade me somewhat... Who thinks I should possibly use some hCG therapy prior to my pct/serms considering this has been a loooong cycle, I know that AAS is a different story and its better for long aas cycles and ive run PH's up unto the last couple weeks it still a pretty solid level of shutdown I figure ive put my little guys in, were looking at a total of 17 weeks and a day total on cycle, so I was thinking of doing the 10 day hCG trip around 10 days after my last injection, 10 days after that fire up my serms clomid and nolva, clomid for 4 weeks atleast and nolva for 6.. still thinking about adding different things in to it possibly extending the nolv to 8 weeks maybe... you guys tell me what you all think! Thanks L&R

P/S Edit I had my boy get me some pins and he ended up getting me some damn slimpins 30g 1/2" 1cc, I did 1 shoulder inject of .5ml it went very smooth, took a little longer to extract it.. but whats anyones experience with this and has anyone tried SubQ with these things, im just wondering for the next 4 or 5 days how im gonna make these work til my order comes in.. ? I don't think 1/2" is deep enough for glutes right? though I feel like I am lean enough that I could still pull off IM injections on most my body besides probably the glutes.. thanks for the nfo guys, always appreciate it!
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I've don't have much experience with Hcg so I won't comment on it. As for the 1/2", unless you are pretty lean I would probably do the quads or delts. I've never used less than 3/4" so it is cutting it close IMO. Maybe push a little harder to get it deeper in the muscle? Also I don't think I've heard of anyone using test sub-q, maybe someone will chime in on it..
 
yates84 Many thanks and appreciation to ya bro you know whats up and now I have to do it, if not for me for you and everyone else still here! tank you as well 707kid I appreciate the support and real ness, I guess that's why we either check out some other logs or become our own guinea pigs for not only our benefit but everyone elses hopefully that can learn better methods of the madness..
jdg76 thanks for the response, I'm thinking hcg is something each person has to evaluate for themselves cause only you know how shutdown you are and what your boys need to wake up again, and for the 1/2" I've been mainly hitting dealts and found a couple more 1" I used for the glutes but I think im gonna try quads on the next pin with 1/2" , im thinking they might be the best they can hold high volumes.. and I have been reading quite a few log's and studies on SubQ Test Injections, after the first one I did last week not thinking about volume and doing a full ml about 3 inches to the right of my bellybutton I realized SubQ is probably meant more for .5ML or less for the most part

cause I ended up with a 4 inch depot of test moving east and west and almost hitting the belly button making it extremely sore feeling, needless to say no more of that.. but it could be a better alternative to guys that hate the deep poke, with the 1/2" SubQ you would never notice..
By Joshua Riverdale / Research/October 24, 2013
New Study: Subcutaneous Administration of Testosterone Safe, Effective Alternative to IM Injections
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heres a link where the guy is testing it out, if I find more ill post them but one study I seen reported the test staying suspended longer and the subjects staying at prime t-levels same as IM injections...

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not sure who this guy is but something to check out
Dr. Crisler on Subcutaneous Injections of Testosterone
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Day 6 since starting the Test C 250 e4d/Test P 100 eod today was my second dose of Cyp and 4th of Prop and I feel like its already kicking in a little, the last couple days I have had a ravenous appetite, been sweating a little more and had a lot more energy mood seems to be getting better by the day as well... like my boy shazeezee mentioned recently in his log the last 4 or 5 days I have been waking up at 5am ready to roll sometimes not going to bed the night before until 4am.

Back day Tday
wide grip pull ups 6x15

bent over bb rows wide grip 3x15/12/10 (165/205/255)
reverse grip 3x 12/10/10 255/225/225

single arm rows pausing at bottom for 2 seconds 3x15 75lbs
wide grip pull downs 3x15 195
reverse grip 3x10-12 225

seated neautral grip cable rows 135 3x12-15
back extensions super set with neautral grip pull ups 3x15/12/10 (135/155/175) 3x15/13/10

overall a decent day, felt pretty good, nice and pumped up with good endurance to match, a little out of breath at times it seems a few days the last week ive been out of breath I think allergies, the rest of the time ive been breathing a lot better then normal. cant wait for this next package to show up.. plan to start Masteron E & P for 5-6 weeks within the next few days, also got some dbol coming i'm thinking about running the dbol for 4-5 weeks as well for a nice bulk and making sure the masteron goes a week or two past that to help with the leaning up game before I come off..
 
on a side note I did my first leg injection today in the side and its sore as a sumbitch now, also I haven't been experiencing any sides at all, libido is staying strong as always, so far so great!
 
KilaCali said:
on a side note I did my first leg injection today in the side and its sore as a sumbitch now, also I haven't been experiencing any sides at all, libido is staying strong as always, so far so great!
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:-) love vastus lateralis. Takes volumes of liquids like a champ
 
I honestly don't think I would try to do a sub q. Hahaha that video, "put your finger over the injection site because you don't want to lose any of that man oil."

I think it's just so easy and painless to burry a 1" pin and plunge it into the belly of the muscle. I also imagine there is more metabolic activity in a muscle in which is being worked out in an avid weight trainer versus the metabolic activity in the sub cutaneous tissue past the basal lamina

My goal is to break that oil down and get it into my blood stream
I mean these are how I picture it and what I prefer but I may be wrong, Labs and Long term studies show all.
 
Your so right bro I tought of the same, it sits in that fat and you gotta slooowly burn it off, and most of us hate waiting as much as it is already! I tried it and ill tell you it feels a lot better IM for sure.
 
KilaCali said:
Your so right bro I tought of the same, it sits in that fat and you gotta slooowly burn it off, and most of us hate waiting as much as it is already! I tried it and ill tell you it feels a lot better IM for sure.
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So the sub q feels a lot better or burying into the muscle ?
 
well subq feels a lot easier and less painless unless the needles dull lol BUT going into muscle has more of a satisfactory feeling and immediat, the subq feels like it just sits there for a few days and you can really feel the depot, massaging brings it down quicker but it seems more of a time release, I had to redo IM injections next day cause I felt like my levels weren't gonna peak as fast and I felt a lot better doing that. but subq is cool for small shots people looking to run .50ml's or less ED/EOD and if you just cant get used to the longer pins its cool, but it seems like a hassel to me, I pinned a full 1ML in the abs and I didn't like it, had a damn 4 inch side to side depot sittin there for 2 or 3 days! IM its like gone instantly.
 
I tell you hwut, the last 3-4 days I almost feel like im on tren for some reason I been sweating all night waking up DRENCHED! had to change the sheets twice in 3 days, and my metabolic rate feels up there as well as core temperature, I catch myself almost out of breath at times, strangest thing and im only doing the Test P EOD 100mg, Test Cyp E4D 250mg..

anybody else get like this just on test? I'm also wondering if it could be the Aromasin at 10-12mg daily and nolvadex 10mg daily, im actually about to cut them both out in 1 more day and see how my body responds, basically just been running a safety/maintenance dose to completely kill the tiny lump left in my left nip from the Tren run.. but I honestly feel like I probably don't need it, or maybe if I do just the aromasin 10-12mg EOD.. what do you guys think? appreciate the feedback!
 
So I'm firing up the Masteron P&E Today(Thursday) I'm going to drop the nolva and exemestane and go a week on this and asses the situation, it seems like E is pretty low as it is and i'm guessing the anti-e qualities of the mast would only bring it down more, I need to bring some est back into my game I've noticed ive lost some size specially lookin in my face, shedding water like its 110 degrees and its been 40 degrees the last few days so hopefully I find a perfect balance now with the mast, what do you all think? the cycle continue's with the added goodies thanks to one awesome bro that I will keep anonymous he knows who he is though!

Test P 100 EOD
Test C 250 E4D
Masteron E 100 .5ML EOD
Masteron P 100 1ML EOD

Will run this for the next 5-6 weeks, when my Test C runs out I will Probably Run Test P at 200MG EOD
Possibly Going to Recomp/Light Bulk somewhat since im already dropping water and fat like a cancer patient and it only makes since with the mast and I'm thinking of grabbing two vials of NPP to run for 6-8 weeks to finish this off depending on how much LBM I can gain on this run, if im not happy and not at the weight i'm aiming for I'll be doing the NPP gig and raising test p to 1g a week since its so cheap right now.

I must admit i'm not very happy after the tren/epi run and having to do the letro protocol to kill off the slight gyno case I was beginning to build up, my weight was a little more and I looked a hell of a lot bigger but after completely annihilating my estro for almost a month solid I lost some gains for the sake of a lesson learned, I planned to cut this cycle no matter what by the end of this current test/mast run but I realized im going to have to majorly increase my intake if I want to be happy come pct,

since I started the test I have really been starving and haven't had the time this last two weeks to feed myself as much as I need to so its really set me back as well, even if I eat a huge meal when I get home and im talking uncle buck size steak dinner's im literally hungry 10-20 minutes later, that makes sense though cause its definitely not smart to have two big meals a day with a small one or two in between when you have an ultra fast metabolism like mine aided by anabolics your asking to drop major weight, going to look for some good mass gainer tomorrow to throw in and add in 2 extra shakes a day on top of finding some easy to carry high calorie/protein snacks to these little classes I got that take from 3pm to 8pm twice a week for me..

I'm glad i'm realizing this and catching it now cause I cant afford to lose anymore weight no matter what kind it is, that's what summers for, currently sitting at 181 with 12%BF aiming for 200-205 by the end of this cycle or July 1st, whichever comes first, and to some that may seem far fetched but with muscle memory that can take me up to 194 and some good quality anabolics and high volume food smashing I can easily get there, any and all feedback and motivation is appreciated from you guys, I can use all of it with the way my sporadic and hectic life has been lately!

also FYI I ran low on 1" pins all I have is 1/2" 1cc 31g slims so I decided to try out the backloading and I love it so far, and with my LBM I can easily hit most of my muscles IM with the 1/2" ive seen some threads around with guys that are in my boat using 1/2" pins without a prob, until I reup that is.
love & Respect always!
 
Not crossing my fingers but my little 18 year old sis not by blood finally jumped in my car and were starting tomorrow, ive been trying to drag her in the gym for the last 8 months lol she finally got a membership and actually hit me up about it. that will be good for the both of us!
 
Just finished my first session with my little sis (not by blood) she did really good im proud of her, ran her through I chest/back/leg routine..

4x db presses 15/15/12/10 raised weight on each one
3x incline db presses 3x12
seated pecdec flyes 3x 12-15

bent over wide grip bb rows 3x 15/12/9
3x wide grip pulldowns 15/15/12
seated close grip cable rows 15/12/10
seated back extension machine 3x12-15

leg press machine (everything else was taken damnit I hate leg press machine accept for some calv routines) 3x15/12/12
3x calf raises in leg press machine 20/15/12

she had about enough and I ran out of time, but got a good sweat on, went somewhat heavy on incline db presses and bent over bb rows, by my second set I had an amazing pump going, really looking jacked, with the fat and water weight ive burnt from not getting enough cal's lately im more vascular and defined, kind of liking it, my pumps were so solid I could barely stretch secondary muscle groups.. feel great though only issue was a little wind but its been off and on with allergy season..

tomorrow im going to run through an arm routine with her, probably start with pullups and dips then move on the curls/skull crusher(tri extensinons) and so fourth, maybe throw in some light squats, and soulder moves, mostly smaller groups but probably toss in 6 sets of bb and db shoulder presses... very proud of her for jumping into it like this after what shes been going through and to tell the truth I needed the motivation myself!
 
Oh and not that a lot of you might care but as far as cycle effects for some reason once I got out of the gym my libido feels like its through the roof! is that normal for anyone on test/mast ?
 
haha damnit man! almost gonna make it hard to hit it sometimes when theres all these pretty woman in the gym smiling at you, good thing I have focus and concentration like a mountain.
 
KilaCali said:
haha damnit man! almost gonna make it hard to hit it sometimes when theres all these pretty woman in the gym smiling at you, good thing I have focus and concentration like a mountain.
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Just hit the gym at 4:30 am, you won't have anyone to get in your way
 
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