Anyone ever come across a fat burner with ECA results?

RickyBlobby said:
It's actually perfectly safe if you use it responsibly
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I would never call something that, by its nature, limits ATP synthase, perfectly safe. The more effective something is, the more risks it poses.

Can you use it safely? likely, but to call it perfectly safe is misleading.
 
So you agree that none of the supplements SNS sells are perfectly safe.
 
TheConMan said:
Whoever resorts to the ingestion of a poisonous pesticide such as DNP has no business pursuing fitness nor bodybuilding.
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Dnp usage is common with elite level bodybuilders, am i saying its safe or recommending it no but would you tell anyone that stands on the olympia stage they shouldn't have utilized it.
 
TeamTGB said:
Dnp usage is common with elite level bodybuilders, am i saying its safe or recommending it no but would you tell anyone that stands on the olympia stage they shouldn't have utilized it.
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Dnp usage is very common at the pro level for people without good genetics,proper diet,or insulin users because of how easily they put on bodyfat. For...the people who want to be genetic freaks but lack the genetics /drug protocol.

Then again....NFL gives their players Valium to sleep,cortisone shots to kill pain amongst many opiates and in the cases of the chunky er guys....meth to get them through training on top of steroids and gh (mainly for repair due to cartilage damage)

And many peptides.

I've talked to someone who used to supply the stuff. Some things they would smuggle from Mexico and other stuff they would make locally /aquire locally.
 
RickyBlobby said:
So you agree that none of the supplements SNS sells are perfectly safe.
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Strawman much?

We don't sell DNP. Thats all my comment was pertaining to
 
srocco112 said:
Looking for a fat burner on the market today that i can maybe use to help switch things up a bit from my ECA cycles. Have used things like alphamine and forskolin but for me the results are not the same. I also read the ingredients in alphamine changed somewhat recently and not sure if that was for the better or not - its usually not.
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Honestly, ECA is where its at brooooo.

Norcodrene is some good **** and Alphamine is tasty.

Tried Proximine here recently and its pretty good too.
 
TeamTGB said:
Dnp usage is common with elite level bodybuilders, am i saying its safe or recommending it no but would you tell anyone that stands on the olympia stage they shouldn't have utilized it.
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Exactly. These guys have their sh!t together, their diet on point etc. These guys ALSO ingest MASSIVE amounts of steroids, and push their bodies to the max every day of the week. And probably take more DNP than anyone would recommend. If it were half as dangerous as people on here are making it out to be (not to mention the overhyped danger of anabolic steroid use) bodybuilders would be dropping like flies. And that's not the case.

Battossi said:
Not a chance. Sure. You can survive but not without damage done.
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Read my previous statement.

Jiigzz said:
Strawman much?

We don't sell DNP. Thats all my comment was pertaining to
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And this is exactly my point. You don't sell it. Your job is to promote SNS products. I'll leave it at that.

Tagger said:
Honestly, ECA is where its at brooooo.

Norcodrene is some good **** and Alphamine is tasty.

Tried Proximine here recently and its pretty good too.
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I'd have to agree about the ECA. It appears as though ECA is the best balance of results and side effects. Probably works better than 95% of these newfangled fat burners that everyone is trying to promote.
But if shredding the most fat possible is your goal, DNP Is a good option IMO. There are countless successful DNP logs out there. Do research, take it responsibly, and you will be ok.
 
RickyBlobby said:
Exactly. These guys have their sh!t together, their diet on point etc. These guys ALSO ingest MASSIVE amounts of steroids, and push their bodies to the max every day of the week. And probably take more DNP than anyone would recommend. If it were half as dangerous as people on here are making it out to be (not to mention the overhyped danger of anabolic steroid use) bodybuilders would be dropping like flies. And that's not the case.



Read my previous statement.



And this is exactly my point. You don't sell it. Your job is to promote SNS products. I'll leave it at that.



I'd have to agree. It appears as though EC is the best balance of results and side effects. Probably works better than 95% of these newfangled fat burners that everyone is trying to promote.
But if shredding the most fat possible is your goal, DNP Is a good option IMO. There are countless successful DNP logs out there. Do research, take it responsibly, and you will be ok.
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I mean OP could just jump on a Clen cycle if he wanted too.
 
Tagger said:
I mean OP could just jump on a Clen cycle if he wanted too.
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Nah clen is not an option right now. Read too much negative about the sides compared to eca. But who knows, my mind could change one day.

I loved eca, worked great, made me feel great. I just worry that one day it wont be available behind the counter anymore because of law after law regarding anything that WORKS. but if fda was smart enough, they would realize that educated users whos dont abuse it are better off than taking all these "fat burning" concoctions that come out wvery month by supp companies.
 
RickyBlobby said:
So you agree that none of the supplements SNS sells are perfectly safe.
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Nothing is perfectly safe if abused. You can even kill yourself by drinking too much water.
Then again, it's way easier to kill yourself with dnp than drinking excess water :D
 
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Amentoflavone + Forskolin 95% + Higenamine + Rauwloscine for the WIN!

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RickyBlobby said:
Exactly. These guys have their sh!t together, their diet on point etc. These guys ALSO ingest MASSIVE amounts of steroids, and push their bodies to the max every day of the week. And probably take more DNP than anyone would recommend. If it were half as dangerous as people on here are making it out to be (not to mention the overhyped danger of anabolic steroid use) bodybuilders would be dropping like flies. And that's not the case.



Read my previous statement.



And this is exactly my point. You don't sell it. Your job is to promote SNS products. I'll leave it at that.



I'd have to agree about the ECA. It appears as though ECA is the best balance of results and side effects. Probably works better than 95% of these newfangled fat burners that everyone is trying to promote.
But if shredding the most fat possible is your goal, DNP Is a good option IMO. There are countless successful DNP logs out there. Do research, take it responsibly, and you will be ok.
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Are you seriously suggesting their lifestyle is healthy? Or that DNP use is safe? Can you define safe? A minimization of risk does not take out inherent unsafety. Do not confuse the two.

Also what has me repping SNS got to do with suggesting against DNP use? Are you a DNP salesman?

Are you also recommending DNP in the supplement section?
 
So thinking about an EC stack(it would be my first one)...is it much risk to it if your responsible in taking the proper dosages and precautions?
 
NattyForLife said:
So thinking about an EC stack(it would be my first one)...is it much risk to it if your responsible in taking the proper dosages and precautions?
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If you don't have any existing heart conditions and you can tolerate stims, you're gonna love EC. You'll have great energy and zero appetite. Its good stuff! Just gradually increase the dose, I'd start with 25mg ephedrine sulfate a day with 200mg of caffeine and see how that treats you. Let us know if you have any questions about it, but you shouldn't have any problems
 
chedapalooza said:
Not at all you're gonna love it and wonder why u waited so long!
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Thanks.
johntpatterso said:
If you don't have any existing heart conditions and you can tolerate stims, you're gonna love EC. You'll have great energy and zero appetite. Its good stuff! Just gradually increase the dose, I'd start with 25mg ephedrine sulfate a day with 200mg of caffeine and see how that treats you. Let us know if you have any questions about it, but you shouldn't have any problems
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Thanks! Tomorrow it starts then. How long should i keep from eating in the morning after my dose. I wake up at 6 and gonna take my dose upon waking, and i think im gonna fast up until 8:30ish
 
There was a rather lengthy post in another thread about meal timing with EC.. I don't know where and I cannot recall specifics, but take EC as far away from food as possible. 2-3 hours minimum
 
NattyForLife said:
Thanks.


Thanks! Tomorrow it starts then. How long should i keep from eating in the morning after my dose. I wake up at 6 and gonna take my dose upon waking, and i think im gonna fast up until 8:30ish
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Good plan.

I'f you want to continue your fat loss after your meal, don't eat very many carbs for your first meal.

Eggs and Cottage cheese is an easy one.
 
Tagger said:
Good plan.

I'f you want to continue your fat loss after your meal, don't eat very many carbs for your first meal.

Eggs and Cottage cheese is an easy one.
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Yea my breakfast is a shake, so it only has like 15-20 gram of CHo.

Shake:
Liquid eggwhites
Unsweetened almond milk
Spinach
Scoop if protein
PB
Cinnamon
Fish oil
Olive oil
 
I actually just took a dose of EC to see how i would react...25mg bronkaid, and a cup of coffee. The coffee probably had 60-80mg of caffeine. Far cry from 200mg. I plan to start with 100mg caffeine for about a week or two and then up it to 200mg.
 
So it would be better to start with full dose at 1 time a day and then up to 2 doses after a week or 2? Also 4-6 weeks is a good cycle time to run it correct?
 
NattyForLife said:
So it would be better to start with full dose at 1 time a day and then up to 2 doses after a week or 2? Also 4-6 weeks is a good cycle time to run it correct?
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Do one regular dose and then see if you need a second dose later on.
 
I made a video about the ECA stack a while back.

Just search on YouTube for the ECA Stack and it's like the first video.
 
I always try to dose it as far away from meals as I can, but you'll still feel it regardless. I take my first dose upon waking and I train fasted in the morning. 25mg wakes me up quick!
 
Well i have been dosing 200mg caffeine and 25mg bronkaid for the last week! My first dose i kind of figured it would have hit a lot harder, but it didnt! Maybe i over expected some of the stim effects!
 
Didn't work for me. I've tried it twice, one with Bronkaid and one with Primatene. The Bronkaid sent my heart racing like crazy!!! Primatene made me sweat and suppressed my appetite at the beginning. I guess I was thinking that it was going to be this awesome magical stack. ???
 
puccah8808 said:
Didn't work for me. I've tried it twice, one with Bronkaid and one with Primatene. The Bronkaid sent my heart racing like crazy!!! Primatene made me sweat and suppressed my appetite at the beginning. I guess I was thinking that it was going to be this awesome magical stack. ???
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So what happened with the primatene bc that's exactly what it's supposed to do...
 
todd muelheim said:
So what happened with the primatene bc that's exactly what it's supposed to do...
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It only worked for a week and a half. Also, I'm not sure if it was the Primatene that suppressed my appetite because I was under a lot of stress at that time. Stress = loss of appetite.
 
NattyForLife said:
Well i have been dosing 200mg caffeine and 25mg bronkaid for the last week! My first dose i kind of figured it would have hit a lot harder, but it didnt! Maybe i over expected some of the stim effects!
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Personally (and maybe I'm just super stim tolerant) I don't get blow your socks off stim effects. I probably get just as much stim effect from something like Alphamine. Nothing stim based compares to the results of an ECA stack cycle though. It's not the acute effects that make it a win for me.
 
Oh yea! I have noticed some leaning effects, but i guess i was expecting a little more punch to the stim effect! However i really am loving EC stack so far!
 
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