Ive compared these, well I compared 2 scoops JP8x Hardcore to 1.25 of each (JP8x hardcore and NOS ETHER). If you are a person where you train
with more motivation and drive based on mental focus, agression, ect, the 2 scoops of JP8x Hardcore cant be beat. Its like 1.5 scoops and 2 scoops is 2 dif products. But by doing 1.25 of each, you get only about 240mg of caffiene, some sick A$$ pumps and explosive power. 2 JP8x Hardcore dont give me "explosive power" like when I stack with ETHER, BUT 2 JP8x Hardcore, no matter how tired, or mentally drained I am puts me at 100000 for a workout....not as in hyper like 5 cups of coffee, but no stress, no mental fatigue, no problems, ipod cracked all the way up...weight moving.