Alcohol and Bodybuilding

Alcohol is hard on your liver, and will raise your liver enzymes. If you are taking oral AAS, then that is additional stress on your liver. So if you are taking orals, do not drink.
 
BEASTZ6 said:
Alcohol is hard on your liver, and will raise your liver enzymes. If you are taking oral AAS, then that is additional stress on your liver. So if you are taking orals, do not drink.
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Can't stress that enough no drinking on orals. I know i friend that is pinning and went to downtown Chicago and blacked out. Not the brightest guy but really nice. Moral of the story use your head
 
Tabascoonall said:
Can't stress that enough no drinking on orals. I know i friend that is pinning and went to downtown Chicago and blacked out. Not the brightest guy but really nice. Moral of the story use your head
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Most commonly pinned stuff is actually pro-liver. I'd guess he was on methyls also, or something else.

Cyrix,
These guys are right, no drink and orals. But if you drink occasionally, consider trying fat doses of Vit.C before, during, and after. It's the oxidation that makes you feel bad the next day, and that can be attenuated to a high degree.
 
Im a recovering alcoholic. I started lifting when i got out of rehab.ill never drink again i hope.you have to be careful.i use to drink 2 or 3 times a year and then one day i started drinking and never stopped for 10 years.about killed me.
 
berazzled said:
Im a recovering alcoholic. I started lifting when i got out of rehab.ill never drink again i hope.you have to be careful.i use to drink 2 or 3 times a year and then one day i started drinking and never stopped for 10 years.about killed me.
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Congratulations
 
Been on these forums long enough to see that there's a lot of addictive/compulsive behavior in bodybuilding. I'd imagine whether it's AAS, alcohol, sex, food, etc, certain people in the iron game will take in more than necessary or abstain to a ridiculous amount.
 
I wouldn't even say just bodybuilding because I am not a bodybuilder and would fall into the athlete label if anything. I have seen it all and still do in everything I have competed in, where we kind of push the envelope compared to "average" folks. This can go either direction and tends to go more extreme in direction dependent on the level of the person commitment wise to their activity.
 
kisaj said:
I wouldn't even say just bodybuilding because I am not a bodybuilder and would fall into the athlete label if anything. I have seen it all and still do in everything I have competed in, where we kind of push the envelope compared to "average" folks. This can go either direction and tends to go more extreme in direction dependent on the level of the person commitment wise to their activity.
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Id say this is spot on. Competitive people, by their nature, will do more to get a result then most.
 
If you skip the gym and go to the bar, then yes you will probably get smaller. lol

Otherwise, the affect of alcohol theoretically could increase gains if used wisely. It augments insulin secretion, increases free and total testosterone levels, and some studies even show a decree of estrogen and SHBG with no effect on cortisol when used post-w/o in resistance athletes. Sounds pretty anabolic to me!

So go ahead and don't drink if you like, but real men aren't afraid to have a shot after their workout for a reason. ;)
 
DR.D said:
If you skip the gym and go to the bar, then yes you will probably get smaller. lol

Otherwise, the affect of alcohol theoretically could increase gains if used wisely. It augments insulin secretion, increases free and total testosterone levels, and some studies even show a decree of estrogen and SHBG with no effect on cortisol when used post-w/o in resistance athletes. Sounds pretty anabolic to me!

So go ahead and don't drink if you like, but real men aren't afraid to have a shot after their workout for a reason. ;)
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Drinking has nothing to to with being a Real Man you dick. Real men work hard and take care of there familys and train hard. Those were some pretty bogus studies you got your info from. Who shoots alchohol post workout, dip****s maybe. Real strength athletes rarely drink.
 
islandiron said:
Drinking has nothing to to with being a Real Man you dick. Real men work hard and take care of there familys and train hard. Those were some pretty bogus studies you got your info from. Who shoots alchohol post workout, dip****s maybe. Real strength athletes rarely drink.
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It's obvious you have some strong opinions against alcohol for some very, very personal reasons. Maybe your pops was some alcoholic slacker who was never there for his family, or came home drunk every night and slapped ya around a little? If so then I'm sorry to hear it bro, but just because you have a personal problem doesn't mean it applies to me or any of the rest of us.

Maybe you should reevaluate your own manhood before you talk sh!t to me again tough guy.
 
Ha! No I dont have a problem with it at all! Lol my Dad was a competitive powerlifter who also drank the odd beer. I go out with the guys now and then and have a few myself. Just dont try to tell me what real men do.. and ya Im pretty tough, but means nothing when were bitchin back n fourth on keypads. This stupid thread is over for me. Get over it bro. I am.
 
Yeah, my dad was a football coach and weight lifter, and he used to drink that nasty beer too! Great guy, but a real hardazz when I was growing up for sure. Then he became the principle at my school when I hit 7th grade, so I started lifting at 14yo and learned to fight pretty quick after that too, lol. I gotta admit, it did make me tough though.

Anyway, I've over it, just didn't want you to think you were the only real man here. ;)
 
I don't drink, always felt like it made a negative impact when I did(Probably didn't help that I drank long islands like water)

Ironically, I bartend which can also be awkward. Lol
 
jaycuda said:
I don't drink, always felt like it made a negative impact when I did(Probably didn't help that I drank long islands like water)

Ironically, I bartend which can also be awkward. Lol
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Isn't long islands a very strong drink?! I used to moonlight as a doorman for extra cash, and the bartenders would add Bailie's to my coffee. It must be pretty mild though because i didn't ever taste it or notice an effect. Finally a waitress told me what they were doing!

You know that's another thing alcohol is good for, crowds. If crowds make you tense, a drink or two can really help with nerves. As the Bible says, a little drink helps lightens the spirits. But too many drinks, and I'm gonna have to kick someone out and write another dam police report, lol.
 
I've deployed overseas off and on for 10 years, so when I'm state side I drink a few times a week. As long as I dont drink like a 21 year old I never notice any effect on my training, strength, or size. And it affects all people differently.
 
DR.D said:
Isn't long islands a very strong drink?! I used to moonlight as a doorman for extra cash, and the bartenders would add Bailie's to my coffee. It must be pretty mild though because i didn't ever taste it or notice an effect. Finally a waitress told me what they were doing! You know that's another thing alcohol is good for, crowds. If crowds make you tense, a drink or two can really help with nerves. As the Bible says, a little drink helps lightens the spirits. But too many drinks, and I'm gonna have to kick someone out and write another dam police report, lol.
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Yeah, they'll get you drunk fast. It was the first drink I ordered at a bar and it's just became a habit to say when I did drink lol
 
drinkyboy said:
Yea long islands are where it's at! Tasty drink and lights you up before you know it.
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Before I was married, I was waiting for 45 minutes for a girl to get off and ended up having 7. Thought I was fine until I stood up to leave with her. Lol
 
I drink a glass of whiskey every night and have noticed zero difference in the gym or in regards to bodyweight change (better or worse).
 
Beelzebub said:
I drink a glass of whiskey every night and have noticed zero difference in the gym or in regards to bodyweight change (better or worse).
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Like I said, some men can do it, some men can't and probably shouldn't.

You're a freak though, Bees. A tank could run over you in bed and you'd probably wake up feeling extra refreshed the next day. :D
 
College I drank heavily 4 nights a week minimum. Now I drink heavily at least one night a week and some marathon weekends here and there. Everyone I know does too. I just like to go out and be social. Enjoy life outside the gym.

It probably doesn't help anything but I think the negative effects aren't nearly as people on here make it seem to be. I'm still big and strong as well as all my friends so why not have the best of both worlds
 
CATdiesel76 said:
College I drank heavily 4 nights a week minimum. Now I drink heavily at least one night a week and some marathon weekends here and there. Everyone I know does too. I just like to go out and be social. Enjoy life outside the gym.

It probably doesn't help anything but I think the negative effects aren't nearly as people on here make it seem to be. I'm still big and strong as well as all my friends so why not have the best of both worlds
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My man.

We had a bunch of friends over last night with all their kids and we drank a couple bottles of tequila and really nice bottle of whiskey while grilling up a bunch of steaks and racks of ribs. I am off to the gym this morning, my wife to a CF comp, and then a 10 mile hike w/ the kids this afternoon.

Best of all worlds.
 
Everybody's probably heard of the French paradox, but clearly it's not just red wine which offers long-term health benefits. Many have assumed that wine is beneficial because of it's high polyphenol content, and all those antioxidants have amazing potential indeed. However, it must be the alcohol itself which is supplying the majority of associated benefit because Vodka works just as well!

Here's a very interesting study (see link below) that might change how you think about ethanol. It shows moderate alcohol users have lowered Lp(a) levels, and thus less risk of CVD that non-users. The benefit is not seen with low use, or high use, but with moderate use. Lp(a) is a specific form of LDL lipoprotein commonly known as 'bad cholesterol', and suspected by many to be the prime factor in arteriosclerosis...

"... These results suggest that moderate alcohol consumption results in changes in Lp(a) lipoprotein which are independent of the type of alcoholic drink consumed. In conclusion, we agree with Paassilta et al that lower Lp(a) concentrations may be one factor conferring lower mortality and cardiovascular benefit in social drinkers."

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Only in PA can you the Amish at a drive thru beer distributor!

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I'm not a BB but I take my training fairly seriously, and I'm an avid mountain biker. I LOVE beer. Love it. I got to the point this winter, though, that I was drinking a ton. 4-5 beers a night was nothing or several glasses of scotch. The result was more anxiety and a bigger gut. So I'd drink more to get rid of the anxiety... you get the idea. I stopped keeping beer around the house recently, and already lost a few pounds. I'll still have a few tasty IPA's with dinner or go to happy hour with a coworker here and there, but it definitely had an impact on my results in the gym, my mood, my wallet, and I'm sure my overall health. Plus, my kids are getting old enough to realize what I was doing, and I don't want them seeing that.
 
DR.D said:
Everybody's probably heard of the French paradox, but clearly it's not just red wine which offers long-term health benefits. Many have assumed that wine is beneficial because of it's high polyphenol content, and all those antioxidants have amazing potential indeed. However, it must be the alcohol itself which is supplying the majority of associated benefit because Vodka works just as well!

Here's a very interesting study (see link below) that might change how you think about ethanol. It shows moderate alcohol users have lowered Lp(a) levels, and thus less risk of CVD that non-users. The benefit is not seen with low use, or high use, but with moderate use. Lp(a) is a specific form of LDL lipoprotein commonly known as 'bad cholesterol', and suspected by many to be the prime factor in arteriosclerosis...

"... These results suggest that moderate alcohol consumption results in changes in Lp(a) lipoprotein which are independent of the type of alcoholic drink consumed. In conclusion, we agree with Paassilta et al that lower Lp(a) concentrations may be one factor conferring lower mortality and cardiovascular benefit in social drinkers."

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Hmmmm that was interesting,, Im competeing next Sat. and my long time buddy and champion bb told me to have a couple of glasses of red wine after my water rehydration period after pre-judge. Supposed to be good for vascularity and settles stage nerves. You just helped me decide to try it.
 
islandiron said:
Hmmmm that was interesting,, Im competeing next Sat. and my long time buddy and champion bb told me to have a couple of glasses of red wine after my water rehydration period after pre-judge. Supposed to be good for vascularity and settles stage nerves. You just helped me decide to try it.Thanks Doc!
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islandiron said:
Hmmmm that was interesting,, Im competeing next Sat. and my long time buddy and champion bb told me to have a couple of glasses of red wine after my water rehydration period after pre-judge. Supposed to be good for vascularity and settles stage nerves. You just helped me decide to try it.
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Rochester?
 
islandiron said:
islandiron said:
Hmmmm that was interesting,, Im competeing next Sat. and my long time buddy and champion bb told me to have a couple of glasses of red wine after my water rehydration period after pre-judge. Supposed to be good for vascularity and settles stage nerves. You just helped me decide to try it.Thanks Doc!
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Well, the theory makes since as a vasodilator, and it settles nerves for sure. Did it work?
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pcarzola said:
Thought Id take a survey. Obviously, anyone who spends alot of time on these boards takes their training and nutrition seriously. I am curious as to how many drink alcohol often, not at all or go bananas on the regular.


Some people say its severely detrimental and others say its effects are massively overblown. What do you think?
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I think for the natural or drug free lifter who gives a crap.

If you're competitive. ..ask your coach. Most likely will say no if you're wanting to have more than a beer.

The reasoning behind this is due to neurotransmitters which if depleted can effect ability to preform what you need to do. You're competing to be the best...so be the best.
 
I train mainly for strength, personal benefit and somewhat for looks. I drink 2 nights a week almost every week as do a lot of the guys i train with excluding 1 that compete. In my opinion it has alot to do with body composition if your a serious bb, a lil if your a power lifter as long as its not around meet time and just about no difference to the regular guy training for strength and reasonable looks. I do feel more hydrated when i go long periods without drinking and slightly better workouts but not enough to make me stop enjoying fun time with my friends. Most times its just 2-4 glasses of wine with dinner but occasionally i do have that all out night like 10 beers plus 5-10 shots ooooppps lol. If your goal is to be ripped or compete or supreme health id say dont drink. But if your a reg guy with a reg life and a reg job then its ok to have a few here n there. But dont have those bad nights too often.
 
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