afternoon usually between 1-3 end anywhere between 4-5 usually
That's not a problem just put it on after your shower at the end of the dayi dont usually get a chance to shower post workout lol, usually not till night time
That's what I'm doing. One in the AM and one around 12 hours later. Let the product stay on the skin for at least 6-7 hours before showering. At least that's what I do and I've been using trans dermals since late 04-05.so once in the a.m, once in the evenening is ok?
I never really worried about sweating it off. I never thought that would be a problem or had a problem with it. I suppose though that you could apply it on areas where you don't sweat a lot but I really wouldn't worry about it. Not sure what you mean by "how long do you let it sit?". Are you saying before you workout?. In that case only until it dries which is almost instant with this stuff, but I wait at least 5 minutes before getting dressed after applying. Then I'd say another 30 minutes or so by the time I get to the gym and get all situated.what is your recommendation with sweating...how long do you let it sit?
Yeah I'm already seeing some effects. No muscle building/fat loss, but I can tell I've added something as far as BP, libido, etc.Any guys running this notice anything yet?. I had thought that this product took a while to kick in, 2 weeks at least, but I asked a guy on here and he said it kicks in really fast.
Yeah I'm running trest behind this (cruise dose I've been on for awhile).No sides here, so I guess it's a good thing. I'm running it with DermaTrest though so that should help a bit with sides.
Are you using trest as a trt of sorts?Yeah I'm running trest behind this (cruise dose I've been on for awhile).
Most tren products start to show them selves around week 2. I think BBG is seeing some nice synergy with the trest and tren combo. But that is purely speculativeMkretz isn't noticing anything really yet either. Looks like BBG is an early or hyper responder.
It's mostly just sides at this point like libido and BP. Nothing in the way of muscle gain or fat loss. That'll come over the next 4-6 weeks.Most tren products start to show them selves around week 2. I think BBG is seeing some nice synergy with the trest and tren combo. But that is purely speculative
I believe BBG also started a little earlier than us.....Most tren products start to show them selves around week 2. I think BBG is seeing some nice synergy with the trest and tren combo. But that is purely speculative
Day 10 just passedI believe BBG also started a little earlier than us.....
I've noticed that 60mg on this product is definitely stronger than 90mg on the oral tren.
I'm honestly not sure why the product is working so quickly for me. But I like it!
Maybe bump up the dosageWell hopefully it kicks in soon for me. Reading your posts though makes me want to raise the dosage a bit though. Monday will make 2 weeks for me.
I'm gonna hold off a bit more on doing that. I really want the bottles I have to last longer, especially when considering it seems to take so long to kick in. Maybe I'll wait till the end of the week, 12/12 and decide if I want to purchase another bottle. If so, then I'll raise it up to 120mg.Maybe bump up the dosage
Even if 90mg of the t/d is stronger than the oral, understand that 90mg is considered the entry point. Like 50mg of Halo - nobody not on their first cycle gets anything off 50mg of halo solo. Guys run the oral up to 300 in extreme instances. Not advocating that, but I do know it's happened.Well I did the first two days at 60, but started 90 on day three and have kept it there for now. Maybe I'm a bit impatient but I really thought that this was not a mild product and would produce some dramatic results.
So you think I should go up to 120?. Hopefully I can find a good coupon code to get another bottle soon than. I guess I could go up to 120 starting with tomorrows pre workout dose.Even if 90mg of the t/d is stronger than the oral, understand that 90mg is considered the entry point. Like 50mg of Halo - nobody not on their first cycle gets anything off 50mg of halo solo. Guys run the oral up to 300 in extreme instances. Not advocating that, but I do know it's happened.
It takes some time to get rolling from what I've read, so don't sweat it. Just know your progress should only improve from here. As for increasing dosage, that's personal. Idk your cycle history, but you do. With my experience I would definitely get to at least 120, probably much higher. But I believe that if you can tell you're making gains, no reason to up the dose - I milk it out. Less sides & more enjoyable overall.So you think I should go up to 120?. Hopefully I can find a good coupon code to get another bottle soon than. I guess I could go up to 120 starting with tomorrows pre workout dose.
It takes some time to get rolling from what I've read, so don't sweat it. Just know your progress should only improve from here. As for increasing dosage, that's personal. Idk your cycle history, but you do. With my experience I would definitely get to at least 120, probably much higher. But I believe that if you can tell you're making gains, no reason to up the dose - I milk it out. Less sides & more enjoyable overall.
Tren isn't a particularly cheap raw, so I'd imagine the same could be said for trendione. It's just the type of product that demands multiple bottles for a good cycle. Really, most compounds are, except for the high powered orals that roll in the first week like m1t & sdrol were. And those can't safely be run nearly as long.
Seems like you have 2 optionsI just want to get to a balance point where there are few sides or none at all and steady gains. Who doesn't though really?. First time running a tren ph but definitely not my first go around. Ran a bunch of 1T/4AD Transdermal cycles back in 04.....MDHT, 1,4 bold....Mdien, M4OHN, Super One plus......Year later 1T tren, trenazone....etc...etc. This is the first cycle in years though because I really didn't want to use the harsh oral products from when Designer Supplements superdrol came out and beyond.
Trans dermal trest and tren seem pretty mild and relatively safe and so I decided to try trest recently and just added this product to my cycle. I've read that an actual tren ph can be pretty dramatic as far as results go, but so far I've not noticed much if any difference than before I added it to my cycle. So I'm still pretty indecisive about raising the dosage....Ummm half asleep here so good night all!.
Pretty much this. I'd get another bottle though - why bother shutting yourself down if you're not even gonna get what you wanted out of it, right?Seems like you have 2 options
1.) Stay on this dosage to make a longer cycle with the possibility of minimal gains
2.) Increase the dosage and get more gains but if you want it to go longer then you will need another bottle.
I agree. If one bottle won't be enough to do your cycle justice, get another bottle.Pretty much this. I'd get another bottle though - why bother shutting yourself down if you're not even gonna get what you wanted out of it, right?
I have two half bottles- the ones that leaked and then a full one. I think I still might get another bottle though....I wanted a full 8 weeks so I'd probably be ok with one more bottle, and might even go over by another week. Each full bottle should last 2 weeks...Hopefully I can find a coupon code when I order this Friday.Pretty much this. I'd get another bottle though - why bother shutting yourself down if you're not even gonna get what you wanted out of it, right?
You know where to look firstI have two half bottles- the ones that leaked and then a full one. I think I still might get another bottle though....I wanted a full 8 weeks so I'd probably be ok with one more bottle, and might even go over by another week. Each fullbottle should last 2 weeks...Hopefully I can find a coupon code when I order this Friday.
Awesome, T-Bone! Make sure you keep us updated. Not just with gains, but with sides as well!Alright starting 120 today.
Lets hope that doesn't keep going on through the night. Tren might sweats kinda suck. But at last that means its working...Sweat really bad today at the gym. Not such a great workout but that's beside the point. Was wearing shorts and still sweating. I mean I had some nasty pit stains!.
Nah, it's pretty much gone. It was only increased sweating caused by activity. Where I was training it was kind of cold too. I mean the barbell was actually cold to the touch.Lets hope that doesn't keep going on through the night. Tren might sweats kinda suck. But at last that means its working...
damn did your gym have the ac on?Nah, it's pretty much gone. It was only increased sweating caused by activity. Where I was training it was kind of cold too. I mean the barbell was actually cold to the touch.
No, they just have a room in the back that's a nice place to hide from the majority of gym goers and it has all the equipment that I need. It's been pretty warm lately anyway, in the 40's.damn did your gym have the ac on?
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