is there a good Non methyl for bulking?

Hazard5150

Hazard5150

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I finished my epi and pct cycle put on great gains, however I had to have blood work done for work during the end of the epi and my liver values were sky ****ing high. say 70-200 being low to high, mine were 500+. I want to run another cycle but am leaning toward a Non methyl that doesnt convert to estrogen. is there such a PH? I didnt get any sides, gyno wise, knock on wood for re-bound with the epi. I wouldnt be totally opposed to test but I'm unsure on how to obtain that. thanks guys!
 
You could run a tren cycle, just need to be careful of progestin sides.
 
Hazard5150 said:
I finished my epi and pct cycle put on great gains, however I had to have blood work done for work during the end of the epi and my liver values were sky ****ing high. say 70-200 being low to high, mine were 500+. I want to run another cycle but am leaning toward a Non methyl that doesnt convert to estrogen. is there such a PH? I didnt get any sides, gyno wise, knock on wood for re-bound with the epi. I wouldnt be totally opposed to test but I'm unsure on how to obtain that. thanks guys!
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geezus, did you run a liver support? just curious because I dont believe in OTC support supps
 
heckler7 said:
geezus, did you run a liver support? just curious because I dont believe in OTC support supps
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i ran cycle assit 4 caps a day. and would consume easily over a gallon of water and another half gallon of other liquids throughout the day. No liquor or beer during cycle. My piss was always dark. its all cleared up now. IF i run a methyl again i think ill really stack the liver supps.
 
Hazard5150 said:
ill start researching it. pretty good for bulking?
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Size and cutting. I ran an Epi/Tren last summer and was quite happy with the results. I had no sides, but I know some people get progestin issues with tren, as well as night sweats sometimes. It can be suppressive though.
 
If you jump the gun on tren, sns inhibit p will handle prolactin issues. Also caber or prami could do the same
 
Surprised nobody has mentioned 1-DHEA.

I'd go with that before anything else. Doesn't aromatize, doesn't convert to DHT, minimal suppression, non methylated, minimum sides in general.

I put on close to 20lb on my first ever PH cycle with Finaflex 1-Alpha and kept the whole lot even now almost a year later.

You might get lethargy from 1-DHEA but stacking with 4-DHEA as a test base will negate that. 4-DHEA is also mild and non methylated.

People often successfully do PCT with OTC supps for this stack as well. Dose and length dependent, of course.

Having said that, 1-Alpha is no longer available but there are other 1-DHEA products out there.
 
mw1 said:
Iforce Bold was always great just expensive to run
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I remember selling my last 5 bottles for like $300...good times.

I would run tren+a methyl.
 
Androtest by fusion supplements looks decent but expensive. to get full benefitd youd have to run it at 6 caps/day for 6 weeks.

Having said that, for pct all youd need is formeron, or a formestane product, and a decent OTC test booster. Probably good to keep some nolva in hand just in case
 
You'd probably put on 20lbs of LBM over a year, with 1-DHEA... Lol

(assuming 3-4 separate cycles. ;) .)

Dont get me wrong, I just started my 2nd 1-DHEA cycle.
 
blacklac said:
You'd probably put on 20lbs of LBM over a year, with 1-DHEA... Lol

(assuming 3-4 separate cycles. ;) .)

Dont get me wrong, I just started my 2nd 1-DHEA cycle.
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My first ever cycle was with Finaflex 1-Alpha and my weight went from 81kg to 90.2kg in 8 weeks - body fat remained the same.
 
NoPainNoGain said:
My first ever cycle was with Finaflex 1-Alpha and my weight went from 81kg to 90.2kg in 8 weeks - body fat remained the same.
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yeah it produced some nice gains. Did you have any sides?
 
Afi140 said:
yeah it produced some nice gains. Did you have any sides?
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On the first cycle the only side that I noticed, or thought I noticed, was a minor increase in hair shedding towards the end of the cycle.
I've got thick hair and a solid hairline, neither of which were affected, but I just seemed to notice more hairs in my hands than usual when I would wash my hair in the shower. I was paranoid about this before even starting the cycle, though, so it's possible that it was just my paranoia playing up.

Second cycle was dreadful. Got terrible depression and anxiety which lasted over 3 months.
Having said that, I also tested as being extremely mercury toxic at the same time which, being the most neurotoxic chemical known to man, was more than likely the actual reason behind what was happening; or at least, largely responsible.
 
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