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Antaeus, your Ultra CoQ10 Product...

kissdadookie

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How much actual CoQ10 are we getting per 4 caps? What you have listed is the total content including the bioavailability enhancer. I’m currently using Jarrow’s Q-absorb which are gelcap CoQ10 in what I think is a bioavailibility enhancing fat complex? It’s 100 mgs of CoQ10 per cap though, I’m currently using 2 a day.

Second question is if you have any information in regards how the bioavailability of your product stacks up with Q-absorb, I also believe the the Jarrow’s CoQ10 is being sourced from the Kaneka of Japan so the quality on it of course is there on the Jarrow product.
 
In for info, very interesting product from such an exciting product line.
 
kissdadookie said:
I like keeping my bad cholesterol at my current 80 I think it is ATM? :D

Pantethine is excellent as well. I've been taking that for a few months.
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What is this "bad" cholesterol? And when you say bad, do you differentiate between particle sizes?
 
Jiigzz said:
What is this "bad" cholesterol? And when you say bad, do you differentiate between particle sizes?
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Non-HDL?

My total was 117 (?), HDL was a low at like 37 IIRC, so the ratio is actually pretty good even with low HDL.

You probably know more about this stuff than I do, doctor tells me I'm a-ok or better, I just take that and run with it :P
 
kissdadookie said:
Non-HDL?

My total was 117 (?), HDL was a low at like 37 IIRC, so the ratio is actually pretty good even with low HDL.

You probably know more about this stuff than I do, doctor tells me I'm a-ok or better, I just take that and run with it :P
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Fair enough. Id be the same.

Personally I look at triglyceride levels and LDL-p where possible..

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Where total cholesterol over 200 seems to indicate a lower incidence of all cause mortality. Of course individual circumstance (like if you are obese and cholesterol over 200) will change whether or not being over 200 is a good thing. But generally lower blood trigs will = larger LDL particles which seem to not be able to get "stuck" in the arteries.

Just food for thought. Do what your doc says though lol
 
Jiigzz said:
Fair enough. Id be the same.

Personally I look at triglyceride levels and LDL-p where possible..

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Where total cholesterol over 200 seems to indicate a lower incidence of all cause mortality. Of course individual circumstance (like if you are obese and cholesterol over 200) will change whether or not being over 200 is a good thing. But generally lower blood trigs will = larger LDL particles which seem to not be able to get "stuck" in the arteries.

Just food for thought. Do what your doc says though lol
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Interesting... so higher total cholesterol levels might conditionally be better? I should ask the doctor about this in the future :D
 
kissdadookie said:
Interesting... so higher total cholesterol levels might conditionally be better? I should ask the doctor about this in the future :D
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Not unless you are low. Cholesterol is important, but also staying within normal ranges, decreasing LDL and Tris and increasing HDL. You won't find a doctor that will tell you he wants to see you over 200 no matter your weight.
 
kisaj said:
Not unless you are low. Cholesterol is important, but also staying within normal ranges, decreasing LDL and Tris and increasing HDL. You won't find a doctor that will tell you he wants to see you over 200 no matter your weight.
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Well, luckily my total cholesterol is alarmingly way below that 200 threshold. LoL. With a 3:1 ratio I think it is.

Side note, just posted the same OP on the Antaeus subsection. Let's hope they gives a reply, I want to save money on my CoQ10 expenses, chit is expensivo.
 
kisaj said:
Not unless you are low. Cholesterol is important, but also staying within normal ranges, decreasing LDL and Tris and increasing HDL. You won't find a doctor that will tell you he wants to see you over 200 no matter your weight.
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I agree in general. But it is highly contextual.

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kissdadookie said:
Interesting... so higher total cholesterol levels might conditionally be better? I should ask the doctor about this in the future :D
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Wouldn't hurt to enquire :D
 
kissdadookie said:
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How much actual CoQ10 are we getting per 4 caps? What you have listed is the total content including the bioavailability enhancer. I’m currently using Jarrow’s Q-absorb which are gelcap CoQ10 in what I think is a bioavailibility enhancing fat complex? It’s 100 mgs of CoQ10 per cap though, I’m currently using 2 a day.

Second question is if you have any information in regards how the bioavailability of your product stacks up with Q-absorb, I also believe the the Jarrow’s CoQ10 is being sourced from the Kaneka of Japan so the quality on it of course is there on the Jarrow product.
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130mgs per serving. Why did you post this in the general Supp forum?
 
kissdadookie said:
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How much actual CoQ10 are we getting per 4 caps? What you have listed is the total content including the bioavailability enhancer. I’m currently using Jarrow’s Q-absorb which are gelcap CoQ10 in what I think is a bioavailibility enhancing fat complex? It’s 100 mgs of CoQ10 per cap though, I’m currently using 2 a day.

Second question is if you have any information in regards how the bioavailability of your product stacks up with Q-absorb, I also believe the the Jarrow’s CoQ10 is being sourced from the Kaneka of Japan so the quality on it of course is there on the Jarrow product.
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~135mg per cap (the rest is cyclodextrins). We believe the bioavailability of our nanoparticle/cyclodextrin complex should be better than that of standard solubilized (gel cap) formulations, but since our formulation is new and proprietary there's no studies to prove that.

ryanp81 said:
Look promising but still think Ubiquinol is better.
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The differences between ubiquinone and ubiquinol are minimal for most people, given that ubiquinone and ubiquinol are redox pairs that readily interconvert. Some of the studies may be skewed in ubiquinol's favour because of the commercial funding bias in favour of ubiquinol. See: Invalid Link Removed
 
kissdadookie said:
Well, luckily my total cholesterol is alarmingly way below that 200 threshold. LoL. With a 3:1 ratio I think it is.

Side note, just posted the same OP on the Antaeus subsection. Let's hope they gives a reply, I want to save money on my CoQ10 expenses, chit is expensivo.
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We've moved away from using ratios as guidelines for CAD mortality. Your LDL is good given no comorbid conditions, but your HDL honestly could use work
 
Btw, for those interested, some brand new recommendations say to no longer use niacin for cholesterol levels. Apparently the HDL it produces is dysfunctional and can actually worsen CAD outcomes
 
Royd The Noyd said:
I remember reading all those trials. So what's left OTC for HDL? Nothing?
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Statins still hit HDL pretty decently, but that's not important. What's important is that 2 drugs recently entered phase III trials for HDL, and they blow EVERYTHING out of the water, past or present
 
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