EP15TANE & TR3ST LOG (+Furaza300 + Ostabol)

anyone ?

I am looking for a bridge for 4 weeks in august. I have about 1,5 weeks of epi left and about 2 weeks of trest ( +1 additional bottle of Brawn Trest)
I need to order formeron and now I want to know what I should use for the bridge.
I will cut down the trest to 50mg during august but I was thinking about maybe furaza,tren(???) or something other - I guess it should not be methylated after only a 2 week break of a 6weeker of epi.

please help me out
 
bomb said:
anyone ? I am looking for a bridge for 4 weeks in august. I have about 1,5 weeks of epi left and about 2 weeks of trest ( +1 additional bottle of Brawn Trest) I need to order formeron and now I want to know what I should use for the bridge. I will cut down the trest to 50mg during august but I was thinking about maybe furaza,tren(???) or something other - I guess it should not be methylated after only a 2 week break of a 6weeker of epi. please help me out
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Time off= cycle time+PCT
 
what?

no i will start my pct on september 1st but with what should i continue after epi ? just run trest throughout the whole time ?
 
So you're trying to go 6 weeks epi + 4 weeks trest then pct? Or are you wanting to do another compound after the 4 weeks of trest then pct?
 
my bad - sorry ...

i am currently running epi & trest and started about 4 weeks ago and I will finish the epi in about 2 weeks and I intended to run the trest in total 8 weeks and then hop into pct at the end of july but then I recognized that i will be in croatia the whole august and there I have not the opportunity for the training a proper pct would recquire- so I decided to stay on ds in august and when I come back start with my pct (tamox + ostarine + sup3r pct).
I just wanted to know what would be the best compund to run - i think it will be trest because it is not 17aa but I want to hear your opinions first
 
If you are going to run the cycle longer I would look at TR3ST but I would probably even look into the TransTR3ST we just came out with, it will keep your levels more constant during that time. I also recommend you purchase yourself some strong resistance bands and take them with you to at least be able to do some resistance training. On top of that a 4 week methyl followed by a 4 week off methyls it wouldn't hurt you to go back on in a month. YOur liver should have already recovered from the EPI so you could easily add in another methy later but if not training hard it really doesn't make sense.
 
MrKleen73 said:
If you are going to run the cycle longer I would look at TR3ST but I would probably even look into the TransTR3ST we just came out with, it will keep your levels more constant during that time. I also recommend you purchase yourself some strong resistance bands and take them with you to at least be able to do some resistance training. On top of that a 4 week methyl followed by a 4 week off methyls it wouldn't hurt you to go back on in a month. YOur liver should have already recovered from the EPI so you could easily add in another methy later but if not training hard it really doesn't make sense.
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definitely going for trest but i will keep the dosage at 50 mg ed i think ( less expensive)

so you think after 6 weeks epi + 4 weeks break I could add in another methyl ( but which one )
dont get me wrong i will work out but i wont have that much opportunities that a gym could offer. i will do lots of pushups and bodyweight exercises but under that circumstances it would not be a good idea to start with pct. ( and I dont wanna lose that vascularity hehe )

maybe trest + 11 keto ( or furaza ?)
 
So how long would you be on cycle here? Am I the only one here who thinks over 8 weeks of Orals without break isn't a good idea? Let alone running another 17a methyl down thr line without a break?? Hcg perhaps?- if you are dead set on this?
 
justeat said:
So how long would you be on cycle here? Am I the only one here who thinks over 8 weeks of Orals without break isn't a good idea? Let alone running another 17a methyl down thr line without a break?? Hcg perhaps?- if you are dead set on this?
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Orals are only harsh in that aspect when methylated. Certainly with TR3ST you still have to worry about lipids and BP but those are things you have to worry about on injection cycles too which are often run 14 weeks and often up into the 20 week ranges. Many stay on all year long cruising and blasting with no health issues they just keep an eye on the blood work. If he has been using TUDCA during this run he should not even really have any liver damage to speak of from the low doses of EPI he has been running, taking 4 weeks off the methyls his liver values will be back in normal levels anyway. Believe it or not the level that these designers actually effect the liver when run with proper support and adequate water is very minimal. Especially the ones currently on the market. Not like anything out now is anywhere near as toxic as superdrol was.Bottom line the layout he has it would not be a problem for him at all assuming he does not have a form of liver disease already. Obviously if his liver is already in trouble then that is completely different. For a healthy liver recovery from the 4 week EPI cycle should be no problem in time to pick up another methy in 4 weeks. It is pretty common practice now to run methyls for 8 weeks concurrently. Since the introduction of TUDCA there has been a big change in safety for running them longer. Typically toxicity comes from the bile ducts becoming blocked so the toxins can not be released so they are held in the liver causing inflammation and scarring. TUDCA causes the bile ducts to continue to flow so the toxins are no longer just sitting there in the liver compounding the damage. So now there is far less initial damage and recovery is easy peasy. As an example I ran a 16 weeker recently, the first 4 weeks was 50mg dmz, 50mg halo, and 40mg LMG per day, then I went to EPI @90 a day and Hex at 135 a day for another 5 weeks and then started Tren-Devastation which is non-methylated. I went and had bloodwork done 3 weeks after I finished the EPI so a total of 9 weeks on high dosed methyls and 3 weeks later I was in the normal range for all my liver values. Consider that I tend to get a lot of sides this is pretty impressive proof of the livers ability to recover quickly.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Orals are only harsh in that aspect when methylated. Certainly with TR3ST you still have to worry about lipids and BP but those are things you have to worry about on injection cycles too which are often run 14 weeks and often up into the 20 week ranges. Many stay on all year long cruising and blasting with no health issues they just keep an eye on the blood work. If he has been using TUDCA during this run he should not even really have any liver damage to speak of from the low doses of EPI he has been running, taking 4 weeks off the methyls his liver values will be back in normal levels anyway. Believe it or not the level that these designers actually effect the liver when run with proper support and adequate water is very minimal. Especially the ones currently on the market. Not like anything out now is anywhere near as toxic as superdrol was.Bottom line the layout he has it would not be a problem for him at all assuming he does not have a form of liver disease already. Obviously if his liver is already in trouble then that is completely different. For a healthy liver recovery from the 4 week EPI cycle should be no problem in time to pick up another methy in 4 weeks. It is pretty common practice now to run methyls for 8 weeks concurrently. Since the introduction of TUDCA there has been a big change in safety for running them longer. Typically toxicity comes from the bile ducts becoming blocked so the toxins can not be released so they are held in the liver causing inflammation and scarring. TUDCA causes the bile ducts to continue to flow so the toxins are no longer just sitting there in the liver compounding the damage. So now there is far less initial damage and recovery is easy peasy. As an example I ran a 16 weeker recently, the first 4 weeks was 50mg dmz, 50mg halo, and 40mg LMG per day, then I went to EPI @90 a day and Hex at 135 a day for another 5 weeks and then started Tren-Devastation which is non-methylated. I went and had bloodwork done 3 weeks after I finished the EPI so a total of 9 weeks on high dosed methyls and 3 weeks later I was in the normal range for all my liver values. Consider that I tend to get a lot of sides this is pretty impressive proof of the livers ability to recover quickly.
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Awesome post, I just learned a lot reading that! Thanks brotha!!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Orals are only harsh in that aspect when methylated. Certainly with TR3ST you still have to worry about lipids and BP but those are things you have to worry about on injection cycles too which are often run 14 weeks and often up into the 20 week ranges. Many stay on all year long cruising and blasting with no health issues they just keep an eye on the blood work. If he has been using TUDCA during this run he should not even really have any liver damage to speak of from the low doses of EPI he has been running, taking 4 weeks off the methyls his liver values will be back in normal levels anyway. Believe it or not the level that these designers actually effect the liver when run with proper support and adequate water is very minimal. Especially the ones currently on the market. Not like anything out now is anywhere near as toxic as superdrol was.Bottom line the layout he has it would not be a problem for him at all assuming he does not have a form of liver disease already. Obviously if his liver is already in trouble then that is completely different. For a healthy liver recovery from the 4 week EPI cycle should be no problem in time to pick up another methy in 4 weeks. It is pretty common practice now to run methyls for 8 weeks concurrently. Since the introduction of TUDCA there has been a big change in safety for running them longer. Typically toxicity comes from the bile ducts becoming blocked so the toxins can not be released so they are held in the liver causing inflammation and scarring. TUDCA causes the bile ducts to continue to flow so the toxins are no longer just sitting there in the liver compounding the damage. So now there is far less initial damage and recovery is easy peasy. As an example I ran a 16 weeker recently, the first 4 weeks was 50mg dmz, 50mg halo, and 40mg LMG per day, then I went to EPI @90 a day and Hex at 135 a day for another 5 weeks and then started Tren-Devastation which is non-methylated. I went and had bloodwork done 3 weeks after I finished the EPI so a total of 9 weeks on high dosed methyls and 3 weeks later I was in the normal range for all my liver values. Consider that I tend to get a lot of sides this is pretty impressive proof of the livers ability to recover quickly.
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thats awesome and i have to admit that my 1st cycle of planned 8 weeks hdrol turned into 10 weeks on hdrol and mid cycle i got my bloods done afer being on with 75mg ed and my liver encymes were only slightly elevated so i do not bother much about the liver ( took tudca everyday and drank enough - piss is still darker than normal tho )

but thanks again for helping me out, i will order some extra tudca to run beside formeron and trest and ....... (< enter DS here )
when you say it would be okay I would consider another epi run again or maybe protobol ?
 
I agree with Kleen here on duration of cycle and being able to add in a stronger compound after taking a break from one earlier in the cycle.

Although fwiw, my vote for adding in a compound to finish up your cycle would be trendione(Tr3n). But, it depends on your experience with compounds. DMZ or Msten would be other good choices IMO.
 
funkd0c said:
I agree with Kleen here on duration of cycle and being able to add in a stronger compound after taking a break from one earlier in the cycle.

Although fwiw, my vote for adding in a compound to finish up your cycle would be trendione(Tr3n). But, it depends on your experience with compounds. DMZ or Msten would be other good choices IMO.
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i was thinking about tren too but i dont know if tr3n + tr3st would be a good idea , especially without caber and having small lumps since puberty.

I think msten is also interesting, isnt it quite similar to sdrol without the sides? DMZ i would love to test but not available in UK shops unfortunately.

Trest + ? ( 11keto,furaza, msten, tren, epi, dimethadrol ... )

btw. cycle going good so far - noticed decent strength gains and nice changing in appearance + better vascularity but i have to admit that my training + nutrtition was not the bestr since 1,5 weeks due to university stress (finals).

currently using:
45mg epi
75mg trest
3 caps arimacare pro
2 pumps formeron
100mg 6bromo
 
Do you feel like that much AI is necessary for the trest? Seems like a lot but I know you said you're gyno prone.
 
CT3 said:
Do you feel like that much AI is necessary for the trest? Seems like a lot but I know you said you're gyno prone.
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I'm at 70mg trest, and 1.5 pumps a day. Perfect balance. Gains look dry and no nip sensitivity, but not too dry as to aggravate joint with Epi.

And mrkleen- thank you for clarifying
 
I was actually referring to bomb. But thanks for the reply. I would assume what you're on is ideal.
 
yes i developed some nip sensivity especially when i bumped up to 75mg but it could be sore from touching it. placebo & anxiety is making me touching them the whole time - 6bromo is just because im low on formeron atm.

def will place a big order soon containing:
formeron, o-bol , tudca and some additional ds
 
Nutriverse is.doing presale.in our Transform and other transdermals right now. We have 60 more ml in our bottle for about same price as competitors.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Nutriverse is.doing presale.in our Transform and other transdermals right now. We have 60 more ml in our bottle for about same price as competitors.
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that sounds great but i have to stick to uk related shops (european customs).

in my basket is at the moment:
formeron , ostabol, tudca , msten(?!)

just not sure about the right compound.
I dont wanna have lethargy and tremendous back pumps or other sides known from heavy ds like sdrol or m1t.
so i ain´t sure about msten.
 
bomb said:
that sounds great but i have to stick to uk related shops (european customs). in my basket is at the moment: formeron , ostabol, tudca , msten(?!) just not sure about the right compound. I dont wanna have lethargy and tremendous back pumps or other sides known from heavy ds like sdrol or m1t. so i ain´t sure about msten.
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This is why I suggested Tr3n. It's too bad you don't have caber or prami but you could probably get by with prolactrone or inhibit-p for prolactin control. Formeron and prolactrone would probably mitigate the sides pretty well.
 
update:
currently using:
45mg trest
100mg bromo
2 caps hyper t2

= bridging for the rest of July.

at the beginning of august Ill start again with
45mg epi
45 trest
1,5 pumps formeron
4 caps damage control

it is runny okay ... since i was taking out the epi i lost some strenth and lost some vascularity but definitely feel less lethargic.
my only problem seems to be sex issues sometimes.
I get rock hard erections and i am horny all the time and right now while tiping this i want to bang my gf so bad lol
BUT when I have sex with the mistress it sometimes feels as if my penis gets a bit numb , he is still hard and I want her but I somehow lose feeling at the top of my penis.
Its not that bad but it gets annoying as I know Im on and it may be the trest.
it is not the bromo since I used it only for 4 days until my formeron arrives and the numb feeling ocurred while being on epi too.

Is it maybe elevated prolactin? i am considering adding in some b6 200mg ed but first I wanted to ask for your opinions.
thanks
 
bomb said:
update:
currently using:
45mg trest
100mg bromo
2 caps hyper t2

= bridging for the rest of July.

at the beginning of august Ill start again with
45mg epi
45 trest
1,5 pumps formeron
4 caps damage control

it is runny okay ... since i was taking out the epi i lost some strenth and lost some vascularity but definitely feel less lethargic.
my only problem seems to be sex issues sometimes.
I get rock hard erections and i am horny all the time and right now while tiping this i want to bang my gf so bad lol
BUT when I have sex with the mistress it sometimes feels as if my penis gets a bit numb , he is still hard and I want her but I somehow lose feeling at the top of my penis.
Its not that bad but it gets annoying as I know Im on and it may be the trest.
it is not the bromo since I used it only for 4 days until my formeron arrives and the numb feeling ocurred while being on epi too.

Is it maybe elevated prolactin? i am considering adding in some b6 200mg ed but first I wanted to ask for your opinions.
thanks
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How long have you gone without the epi (trest solo)? I'm going to be dropping my epi this weekend and continuing with trest only, I'm going to run it td at a higher dose so hopefully I don't experience the strength loss.

also, what trest product are you using to be getting 45mg? Perhaps increase the dose a bit now that you are running it dolo?

lastly, how did you like the 6-bromo? How does it compare to formestane products? Also- how were the gains during the epi+trest run? .

Sorry for the barrage of questions
 
justeat said:
How long have you gone without the epi (trest solo)? I'm going to be dropping my epi this weekend and continuing with trest only, I'm going to run it td at a higher dose so hopefully I don't experience the strength loss.

also, what trest product are you using to be getting 45mg? Perhaps increase the dose a bit now that you are running it dolo?

lastly, how did you like the 6-bromo? How does it compare to formestane products? Also- how were the gains during the epi+trest run? .

Sorry for the barrage of questions
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i think i dropped the epi 1,5 weeks ago i guess , continued with the rest of my OL Trest with 50 mg for the next 6 days or so and currently I am using Brawn Trest 15mg / cap .
The strength loss is not that bad , just noticeable on the bench within the last reps which seem a bit heavier now.

nothing is nearly as good as formeron was - this stuff is powerfull but does not **** with my Joints or at least not that bad as 6bromo was doing.
I noticed the aching Joints on 100mg bromo immediatly and I am looking Forward to tomorrow when I finally can apply formeron again.

the gains during epi-trest were "okay" maybe I expected a bit too much from it as everybody said this Combo will rock everything but I gained about 4kg and got leaner , abs are showing and veins popping out especially on forearms.
the lump under my left nipple got worse when I dropped the formeron but 3 days @20mg tamox fought that nasty sht off.
trest is definitely no joke.
I am unsure about my pct. I hope I get my Boys back to normal as I heard trest shuts you down pretty hard.
I was thinking about

5 weeks tamox 20/20/10/10/5(?)
5 weeks osta 10/10/10/10/10
sup3r PCT
DAA
(reduce XT)
 
bomb said:
i think i dropped the epi 1,5 weeks ago i guess , continued with the rest of my OL Trest with 50 mg for the next 6 days or so and currently I am using Brawn Trest 15mg / cap .
The strength loss is not that bad , just noticeable on the bench within the last reps which seem a bit heavier now.

nothing is nearly as good as formeron was - this stuff is powerfull but does not **** with my Joints or at least not that bad as 6bromo was doing.
I noticed the aching Joints on 100mg bromo immediatly and I am looking Forward to tomorrow when I finally can apply formeron again.

the gains during epi-trest were "okay" maybe I expected a bit too much from it as everybody said this Combo will rock everything but I gained about 4kg and got leaner , abs are showing and veins popping out especially on forearms.
the lump under my left nipple got worse when I dropped the formeron but 3 days @20mg tamox fought that nasty sht off.
trest is definitely no joke.
I am unsure about my pct. I hope I get my Boys back to normal as I heard trest shuts you down pretty hard.
I was thinking about

5 weeks tamox 20/20/10/10/5(?)
5 weeks osta 10/10/10/10/10
sup3r PCT
DAA
(reduce XT)
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Gaining 4kg and getting leaner doesn't sound to bad to me;)
 
yeah thats true , thats in fact really awesome.

my new ordered stash arrived today:
Brawn o-bol
brawn epi
blr formeron
lgi damage control

I´d love if JW supps stocks up on Olympus labs products , would love me some tr3n especially the transdermal versions
 
does tr3´st increase Aggression?

sometimes i find myself reacting pretty aggressive to some things like ´sometimes I am really looking for a fight with the Mistress, even at sex I basically touch her more rough than normal (at least she likes it tho lol).
While driving I think I can not Keep calm very Long especially when there are traffic jams and so on .
I have myself under control of course but i noticed it and I do not like that because I really dont want to hurt my gf emotionally and for súre not physically.

other aspect I was noticing, my scalp Begins to itch a bit ... is this a common side with trest?
 
bomb said:
does tr3´st increase Aggression?

sometimes i find myself reacting pretty aggressive to some things like ´sometimes I am really looking for a fight with the Mistress, even at sex I basically touch her more rough than normal (at least she likes it tho lol).
While driving I think I can not Keep calm very Long especially when there are traffic jams and so on .
I have myself under control of course but i noticed it and I do not like that because I really dont want to hurt my gf emotionally and for súre not physically.

other aspect I was noticing, my scalp Begins to itch a bit ... is this a common side with trest?
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Yes it does and that is part of the responsibility of being on steroids. Any androgenic steroid is going to increase aggression. Your job is to not let that aggression effect your family and friends. When you get ready to get angry like that remind yourself why you feel so aggressive and check it instead of being an ass to those who support you in your efforts. Otherwise they will no longer support you or worse be around you. Modifying your hormones requires a lot more personal responsibility than a lot of people realize. However you let aggression run amuck and you will lose thing important to you so you just have to breathe through it and calm down. When you let the aggression take hold it is hard to stop the train steaming down the tracks so learn to recognise that feeling of aggression welling up in your chest and squash it before it comes out your mouth. Believe me if you pay attention you can physically feel the rush of aggression as your body reacts to the dumping of epinephrine into your system basically a premature fight or flight response. Right when you feel that you have to choose not to react. You wont catch it every time but it will get easier as you recognize it for what it is.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yes it does and that is part of the responsibility of being on steroids. Any androgenic steroid is going to increase aggression. Your job is to not let that aggression effect your family and friends. When you get ready to get angry like that remind yourself why you feel so aggressive and check it instead of being an ass to those who support you in your efforts. Otherwise they will no longer support you or worse be around you. Modifying your hormones requires a lot more personal responsibility than a lot of people realize. However you let aggression run amuck and you will lose thing important to you so you just have to breathe through it and calm down. When you let the aggression take hold it is hard to stop the train steaming down the tracks so learn to recognise that feeling of aggression welling up in your chest and squash it before it comes out your mouth. Believe me if you pay attention you can physically feel the rush of aggression as your body reacts to the dumping of epinephrine into your system basically a premature fight or flight response. Right when you feel that you have to choose not to react. You wont catch it every time but it will get easier as you recognize it for what it is.
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^ so true....

Always have to watch that when I'm 'on'.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yes it does and that is part of the responsibility of being on steroids. Any androgenic steroid is going to increase aggression. Your job is to not let that aggression effect your family and friends. When you get ready to get angry like that remind yourself why you feel so aggressive and check it instead of being an ass to those who support you in your efforts. Otherwise they will no longer support you or worse be around you. Modifying your hormones requires a lot more personal responsibility than a lot of people realize. However you let aggression run amuck and you will lose thing important to you so you just have to breathe through it and calm down. When you let the aggression take hold it is hard to stop the train steaming down the tracks so learn to recognise that feeling of aggression welling up in your chest and squash it before it comes out your mouth. Believe me if you pay attention you can physically feel the rush of aggression as your body reacts to the dumping of epinephrine into your system basically a premature fight or flight response. Right when you feel that you have to choose not to react. You wont catch it every time but it will get easier as you recognize it for what it is.
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Yes. It took me all to long to learn this.
 
I had a OLD buddy of mine get on some test e, he took his first shot of 200mgs and 2 hours later got into a fight and then tried to say he roid raged... I told him he was a weak minded moron and needed to grow up. He was looking for an excuse to act like an ass and used the gear as a scapegoat. He didn't have a clue how to respond.
 
whats up guys, sorry for my late answer but I was busy with a ****load of work and so on.

my ordered OL stuff arrived last week.
1x OL Tr3ST
1x OL Epi (ordered Eliminate but nevermind lol)
1x OL TransFORM
1x OL Tr3N

Ive been using:
Trest @ 50-75 mg since mid may
Epi @45mg since mid may for 6 weeks ( started another run @45mg last week)
Tren @90 mg since last week
Formeron/Transform 2 pumps ed since mid may
vit b6 @200mg since last week

what can I say?
I def notice the tren eg increased vascularity and some elevated aggression , especially while driving.
Trest does its job as a test base - no problems with erections, no lethargy -NADA
I will post a progress pic
 
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this picture was made while being on (bunk???!!!) Brawn Nutrition Trest @ 60 mg
I think that product is bunk because I los´t muscle thickness, vascularity and even strength so I will stay away from their products (thats why I ordered again OL stuff and maybe for pct I will replace O-BOL with Ostar1ne
 
bomb said:
<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=104616"/>

this picture was made while being on (bunk???!!!) Brawn Nutrition Trest @ 60 mg
I think that product is bunk because I los´t muscle thickness, vascularity and even strength so I will stay away from their products (thats why I ordered again OL stuff and maybe for pct I will replace O-BOL with Ostar1ne
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Interesting..OL is gtg
 
bomb said:
<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=104616"/>

this picture was made while being on (bunk???!!!) Brawn Nutrition Trest @ 60 mg
I think that product is bunk because I los´t muscle thickness, vascularity and even strength so I will stay away from their products (thats why I ordered again OL stuff and maybe for pct I will replace O-BOL with Ostar1ne
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Brawns m1t and sd were dhea, so I've heared. They were seized by finnish customs and checked.

Dhea...pfffffff. that sucks!
 
reps4jesus said:
That's just wrong
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have you more ínfos ?
Ive read several uk logs about brawn products and everyone loved their products so I thought I get a bottle of their trest for bridging but I definitely experienced a loss in strength and also my physical appearance changed though I upped it from 50 to 75 mg.

ordering OL products was a good choice tho , trest,tren and epi are doing their job lol
 
bomb said:
have you more ínfos ?
Ive read several uk logs about brawn products and everyone loved their products so I thought I get a bottle of their trest for bridging but I definitely experienced a loss in strength and also my physical appearance changed though I upped it from 50 to 75 mg.

ordering OL products was a good choice tho , trest,tren and epi are doing their job lol
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I just asked...waiting for the answer. I'll get back to you soon.
 
bomb said:
have you more ínfos ?
Ive read several uk logs about brawn products and everyone loved their products so I thought I get a bottle of their trest for bridging but I definitely experienced a loss in strength and also my physical appearance changed though I upped it from 50 to 75 mg.

ordering OL products was a good choice tho , trest,tren and epi are doing their job lol
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Here's my info, I give a company a single chance, and if they blow it, then I will not recommend or use them.
That's why I won't recommend shredded labs, they proved they are not trustworthy. Idc if they fix the issue. They show their character and morals by lying to people that are depending on them and spending money they worked very hard for. So I will not use brawn. Or shredded labs.
 
reps4jesus said:
Here's my info, I give a company a single chance, and if they blow it, then I will not recommend or use them.
That's why I won't recommend shredded labs, they proved they are not trustworthy. Idc if they fix the issue. They show their character and morals by lying to people that are depending on them and spending money they worked very hard for. So I will not use brawn. Or shredded labs.
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^ agree.

Sucks when you are all hyped up to use a product and it fails.

There should be in it what the lable says....that's why I got the ph route and not the underground steroid route.

Here in europe 80% is fake or underdosed.

Olympus labs is trusworthy. Lgi and ironflex have also never failed me.
 
edje007 said:
^ agree.

Sucks when you are all hyped up to use a product and it fails.

There should be in it what the lable says....that's why I got the ph route and not the underground steroid route.

Here in europe 80% is fake or underdosed.

Olympus labs is trusworthy. Lgi and ironflex have also never failed me.
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Precisely and good companies.
 
Okay so just wondering why you would label this as a log when it is merely filled with questions? Only about two updates of workouts? Waste of time.
 
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