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If FOLLIDRONE is bunk & results R placebo Ill take placebo

Touey said:
Follidrone should be called Follipump garsh what a session, anyone thinking about side inducing substances should resist that urge and try this first instead it'll be all you'll need for 9 n 10 out there
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How long are you running it for?
 
I'm a bit more high on it now after dropping the AAS and still noticing strength (but not size) increases.
 
aceroni said:
How long are you running it for?
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Who said I was going to stop running it:) Seriously though I like this product such that I shall keep running until I see these results diminish to a point in which I feel it time to leave off for a month or two.
 
Touey said:
Who said I was going to stop running it:) Seriously though I like this product such that I shall keep running until I see these results diminish to a point in which I feel it time to leave off for a month or two.
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How long have you been on it, then??
 
aceroni said:
What is your weight difference?
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honestly I haven't weighed myself mostly I ignore the scale check it maybe every 6 months
 
if folli is 10x better than Myo

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workout and pump was out of this world yesterday, as they have all week started using Myo solo with no ArA or anything only amentomaxx, endrance and pump, PR's everywhere even on low carbs and 45g of fat doing cardio/HIIT every day this week. im way to keen to try it i actually almost like it more than ArA
 
stavs said:
brundel, what is your honest opinion on Clear Muscle by MT. I dont want to derail this thread in any way, but I actually convinced someone to run 2 bottles of Follidrone for 80-100$ instead of dropping $240 on 3 bottles of Clear Muscle.
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Good call. Hmb has been around for decades. Its always been a flop. Ive personally eaten triple the recommended dose for two months with 0 results.
My review and honest opinion....worthless. literally.

Follidrone guys who are at maintenance or above are seeing sick results.
Some gaining over 10lbs in 4 weeks and hitting all time prs.
Nothing non steroidal compares.
 
aceroni said:
Oh i'm sure I'll purchase at least a bottle so I can see for myself what all the hype is all about. Like I said I never doubted it, just a tiny bit skeptical
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I understand being skeptical.
So many companies sell scam products its hard to weed through the bs.
I remember starting out bodybuilding and reading the mags. I bought every hot new supp and for the most part....i was let down.
My goal as a company owner is to make sure this never happens with blr products.
My personal guarantee that ive done everything i can to make it best in class.
Follidrone is our greatest example and now..our new flagship.
Please let us know how it works for you should you choose to try it.
Itll earn us your trust but also the positive reviews from previous skeptics are my favs.
 
EatMoar said:
Would running this in pct along with the usual serm, natty test booster / etc be a good ideA?
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I think itll be a great addition to pct.
Generally pct you feel terrible and weak. This should at least help.

Itll shine brightest when cals are high and test levels are already stsble or elevated.
 
I'm looking forward to trying it. Do you have anyone that's running two bottles?

One bottle is four Weeks, correct??
 
aceroni said:
I'm looking forward to trying it. Do you have anyone that's running two bottles?

One bottle is four Weeks, correct??
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There are quite a few guys on weeks 5-7.
Still going strong.
My training partner wont stop tsking it.
Week 11.
 
hmb part deux-fa building your workout around a supplement in order to log it
 
Follidrone has arrived in the UK!! :)

First batch is only available for those registered for pre-order.

Apparently more should be on the way though.
 
bdybldnaam said:
Follidrone has arrived in the UK!! :)

First batch is only available for those registered for pre-order.

Apparently more should be on the way though.
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UK feedback will be interesting since some times on US forums some products - not talking about BLR but in general, get so pimped that you get sugar attack - then UK buyers give more realistic expectations.

Hopefully Follidrone feedback will confirm the ones by US clients.
 
ahh123 said:
UK feedback will be interesting since some times on US forums some products - not talking about BLR but in general, get so pimped that you get sugar attack - then UK buyers give more realistic expectations.

Hopefully Follidrone feedback will confirm the ones by US clients.
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lol, like my review on HCGenerate.

I had to conclude that they may as well have been sugar pills to which I received some abusive posts from their boss, later to get deleted.
 
Man, I might have to give this a go as well. I gain muscle really easy, I could probably have a great 8 week run.
 
So from what I've read here (-)-epicatechin seems to be safe. Do reps have any more links to studies donstrating its safety profile?
 
clobrown said:
i almost purchased it then I realized 61.00 GBP equals to about $102 dollars lmao

had to back up on that 1.
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It's £52 (ex shipping), so equals ~$88, but we always get the short end of the stick when it comes to pricing.


ABE/ARA is £45 (also ex shipping), which equals ~$76, so we definitely pay a premium for supps here.


Remember brundel said Follidrone was very expensive to manufacture, so pricing in US should be $50.

ABE/ARA can be found for a bit under $50 in the US.


So I would say it's only natural, that Follidrone retails for more than e.g. ABE/ARA in the UK also.

With that being said, I believe they added a few £'s to the introprice, given the interest in the product and the fact that they are the only retailer in Europe, which carry stock at this point.

Like it or not, it pretty basic businessmanship or what you would call it. :)
 
brundel said:
Viron is a mix of-

Our version of a tongkat ali extract. Only we have this variety and its exceptional. In fact Ill stand by it being the best available.
Several people questioned this initially as expected so I gave some to 6 people. All said it measured up to or exceeded previous extracts they had used.

We also include Boron citrate for reducing SHBG and elevating FREE testosterone.

Ill try to finish the writeup tonight.

Currently its up for presale
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I can't recall running a Tongkat product in the past. I may have had it in some blends however.

I read in MultiVitamin's log that it may increase stamina and erection fullness. Is this a cumulative effect after dosing for a while, or is it pretty instant?

I'm 35, always looking for an edge lol.
 
clobrown said:
word, ill just wait til it restocks in 'Merica for 102$ i can get 2 bottles of Follidrone instead of 1 from UK
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Sounds like a plan. :)

If customs get a hold of your shipment, it ends up being much more though.

For me it actually ends up being more expensive ordering from the US, if it gets stopped in customs.

I pretty much only go the US route now, when the product can't be found in the UK at all.
 
cubsfan815 said:
I can't recall running a Tongkat product in the past. I may have had it in some blends however.

I read in MultiVitamin's log that it may increase stamina and erection fullness. Is this a cumulative effect after dosing for a while, or is it pretty instant?

I'm 35, always looking for an edge lol.
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I noticed a little stamina. The only thing I really took notice to was how horny I was all the time :p

I'm only 19 so I didn't really pay too much attention to those other effects, but I'm sure brundel can answer
 
cubsfan815 said:
I can't recall running a Tongkat product in the past. I may have had it in some blends however.

I read in MultiVitamin's log that it may increase stamina and erection fullness. Is this a cumulative effect after dosing for a while, or is it pretty instant?

I'm 35, always looking for an edge lol.
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Its for most you get a quick burst of libido that wanes over time. Many people do 5 days on 2 off for this reason.
Erectile effects are pretty quick for me.
I gotta wear a nerf ball on the end so i dont put someones eye out.
 
brundel said:
Its for most you get a quick burst of libido that wanes over time. Many people do 5 days on 2 off for this reason.
Erectile effects are pretty quick for me.
I gotta wear a nerf ball on the end so i dont put someones eye out.
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Haha nice. Like when people hang tennis ball in garage so they know how far to pull in.

At some point I will be trying both of the products. I was going to be trying ArA for the first time (I know, I'm years behind) but Follidrone may have just pushed my ArA run back
 
cubsfan815 said:
Haha nice. Like when people hang tennis ball in garage so they know how far to pull in.

At some point I will be trying both of the products. I was going to be trying ArA for the first time (I know, I'm years behind) but Follidrone may have just pushed my ArA run back
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I believe follidrone is far stronger than ara.
 
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There are so many benefits to Tongkat, but like anything, you can abuse it. High doses can make your heart race and cause insomnia, which could tie directly to high BP. This is not normal, though. It is a powerful herb that needs to be respected and taken in recommended doses or the sides you may have read about can come about.
 
You should be embarrassed for pointing to that garbage of a thread regarding anything. 4 bros yelling at each other is what it consists of. And the poster making the claims gets pissed when asked if he knows any of his numbers. Even the people on that thread are telling him he is a moron.
 
Drops said:
I dont know if I'm allowed to post where I read it but if you search for follidrone in google and go to the lean bulk thread you will see that a few posts down on the 2nd page of the follidrone thread you will see where the logger for follidrone say it was from the tongkat that he received from BLR
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If your on beta blockers tongkat ali MAY reduce its absorption.
So if you have a heart condition and take drugs for it you may want to steer clear of tongkat.

Its not BLR tongkat. Its the species of plant in general.

But if your on beta blockers and have a heart condition there are dozens if not hundreds of supps to avoid...trust me..Im on beta blockers.
 
Drops said:
I was just trying to show where I read it.

I'm going to try follidrone and wanted to stack it with blr tongkat but was worried about the high BP.

I meant no disrespect to this forum nor its members in any way.
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And I meant none to you. I just read through that post thread and it sounded like 6 year olds fighting and then of course moved on to masturbation as all intelligent conversations do. I probably should have counted to 10 before responding back.
 
And yes.....99% sure that guy has issues other than our tongkat. :)

Also it is true...tongkat extracts..especially ours is very strong.
It can cause rapid heartbeat in some. So again...if you have a heart problem...avoid it.
If not...eat away because millions of other people are with no ill effects.
 
Drops said:
I was just trying to show where I read it.

I'm going to try follidrone and wanted to stack it with blr tongkat but was worried about the high BP.

I meant no disrespect to this forum nor its members in any way.
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I dont think you need to worry.
It raises my blood pressure but so does spicy food and anything..literally anything salty.
I have a heart condition and Im on a ton of meds.

Normal guys....its been shown to actually lower BP.
 
kisaj said:
Invalid Link RemovedThere are so many benefits to Tongkat, but like anything, you can abuse it. High doses can make your heart race and cause insomnia, which could tie directly to high BP. This is not normal, though. It is a powerful herb that needs to be respected and taken in recommended doses or the sides you may have read about can come about.
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I like tongkat, but this study is bad.


If you read the whole text, it actually loses scientific tone and almost takes on a persuasive "tongkat should do all of these things" effect. Which upon looking at the competing interests, makes sense:


The authors have no directly competing interests, although one (AG) is an employee of a company that manufactures tongkat ali extract, and another (MP) is an employee of a nutrition company that uses tongkat ali as one ingredient in an anti-stress dietary supplement. The other authors (ST and JT) conducted this study as employees of SupplementWatch, which received funding for this trial from Biotropics Malaysia.This study was funded by Biotropics Malaysia and conducted by SupplementWatch.


Oh yeah, the authors don't have directly competing interests, except that every aspect listed is a directly competing interest lol
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I like tongkat, but this study is bad.If you read the whole text, it actually loses scientific tone and almost takes on a persuasive "tongkat should do all of these things" effect. Which upon looking at the competing interests, makes sense:The authors have no directly competing interests, although one (AG) is an employee of a company that manufactures tongkat ali extract, and another (MP) is an employee of a nutrition company that uses tongkat ali as one ingredient in an anti-stress dietary supplement. The other authors (ST and JT) conducted this study as employees of SupplementWatch, which received funding for this trial from Biotropics Malaysia.This study was funded by Biotropics Malaysia and conducted by SupplementWatch.Oh yeah, the authors don't have directly competing interests, except that every aspect listed is a directly competing interest lol
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So they are lying?
 
I still feel that everything else I posted is relevant and further research can pull up additional studies if the poster wanted to do this on his own.
 
Well the bottom line is - does product work or not for ME - no matter how many positive or negative feedback it gets on forums.

Everything else even studies or lots of guys saying certain product it's worthless means nothing to me if I try a certain product and I get effects I'm looking for.

Don't get me started on pimping by many reps their products that didn't work for me or if others post product is bad then they get bashing or negative reputation points.

By now like most others figured out - best to look out for feedback by respected members that are in no way connected to a product and actually paid to try a product not just get it for free in return for desired positive review by logging it.
 
THere are ALOT of studies done by malaysians with interests in selling TOngkat....
Doesnt mean they are all bad but some of them are highly suspect and some are clearly terrible.
THere are quite a few that are very good, well performed, no vested interest and extremely positive results.

We have also dont some internal testing over the last year or so. Interesting to say the least.
Strong enough evidence from this alone to validate it in my eyes. Research studies help to prove points though.

Some of the study results you dont hear mentioned much. They will be included in my write up. Ive been on an island since thurs sleeping next to a whale skeleton so...Im just getting back to reality. Hopefully tonight after I attempt to fill back orders Ill be able to start on it.
 
ahh123 said:
Well the bottom line is - does product work or not for ME - no matter how many positive or negative feedback it gets on forums.

Everything else even studies or lots of guys saying certain product it's worthless means nothing to me if I try a certain product and I get effects I'm looking for.

Don't get me started on pimping by many reps their products that didn't work for me or if others post product is bad then they get bashing or negative reputation points.

By now like most others figured out - best to look out for feedback by respected members that are in no way connected to a product and actually paid to try a product not just get it for free in return for desired positive review by logging it.
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THis is true.
These days there are so many company reps that just say whatever the company wants its hard to weed through.

This is why we basically have no reps. We have 1 but hes only on once a month or two.
Ive decided to bring on Kasaj because hes intelligent and well respected. He can reply in my absence and wont lie to support our position.

Follidrone is a great example of what your talking about.
THere was a ton of studies posted.
My word on it being incredible.
Yet there was still doubt and considering the effects its understandable until proven.

Now there are dozens of members who have eaten it. Lots of these guys are posting results and logs. Non sponsored.
If the product sucked everyone would know by now.
Conversely if it was amazing.....everyone would know by now :)

I can tell you one thing for sure. You have my word that I will NEVER ever sell a product I dont 100% believe is a great one.
Tongkat/boron is not as stout as Follidrone. Your not gonna gain 10lbs and endurance and strength and pump etc...
But its not meant to do this.
It meant to elevate test levels and the ratio of Free T.
Along with the other benefits of tongkat which are many.
 
brundel said:
THis is true. These days there are so many company reps that just say whatever the company wants its hard to weed through. This is why we basically have no reps. We have 1 but hes only on once a month or two. Ive decided to bring on Kasaj because hes intelligent and well respected. He can reply in my absence and wont lie to support our position. Follidrone is a great example of what your talking about. THere was a ton of studies posted. My word on it being incredible. Yet there was still doubt and considering the effects its understandable until proven. Now there are dozens of members who have eaten it. Lots of these guys are posting results and logs. Non sponsored. If the product sucked everyone would know by now. Conversely if it was amazing.....everyone would know by now :) I can tell you one thing for sure. You have my word that I will NEVER ever sell a product I dont 100% believe is a great one. Tongkat/boron is not as stout as Follidrone. Your not gonna gain 10lbs and endurance and strength and pump etc... But its not meant to do this. It meant to elevate test levels and the ratio of Free T. Along with the other benefits of tongkat which are many.
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Good work on picking up Kisaj! He is a stand up dude and I think will be a good addition to BLR.
 
I pinned follistatin and the results were okay, they were like a very mild PH. Now looking at this the product costs almost as much as the peptide version (I found it for $50 right now). I want to give it a shot but at the same time idk. If it doesn't work that is $50 out of pocket which could be months of cissus and/or digestive enzymes.
 
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