brundel
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Happy to see another believer
Its hard to believe at first....then you just cant deny it.
If FOLLIDRONE is bunk & results R placebo Ill take placebo
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Happy to see another believer
Its hard to believe at first....then you just cant deny it.
brundel
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Brundel must've put some superdrol in those tabs
The greatest part of this whole thing.....I didnt put superdrol in it.
The compound really is this good.
I will add that...extraction source and technique is extremely important. Not all Extracts are =.
I dont expect people who make copies will have similar effects.
reps4jesus
Well-known member
Damn it. I love it when I'm unknowingly taking sd, it makes me feel like I'm just a natural beast
brundel
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It really is. Ive never seen anything like it that isnt a steroid.
We are working on manufacturing currently. I have all the raws here.
Hopefully within 10 days or so but until we go to production Ill not have a set date.
reps4jesus
Well-known member
How much $ this going for?
brundel
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49.99
It costs twice what FOrmeron does and Formeron retails for 43.99.
4999 is a steal especially considering the results.
brundel
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Yea know it would be great if there was a deal of some sort just a idea and maybe send me a email before it is on nutraplanet
THere was already 500 units sold at discount.
I wouldnt expect a sale for a year at least.
Keep an eye on our FB page. Ill tell everyone when its available.
Soon.
Jiigzz
Legend
MultiVitamin
Active member
Just thought I'd post this up in here..
Final Weigh-in: 179.6lbs (+8.1lbs)
10RM's: (start...end)
DB Row: 95x10 --> 100x10 (+5lbs)
Pull-ups: 30x10 --> 30x10 (+0lbs)
CGLPD: 160x10 --> 180x10 (+20lbs)
DB Press: 85x10 --> 95x10 (+10lbs)
Inc BP: 185x10 --> 205x10 (+20lbs)
MP: 155x10 --> 165x10 (+10lbs)
BB Curl: 95x10 --> 105x10
(+10lbs)
Going to have my before/after measurements up tomorrow
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/247788-mv-blr-stack.html
Final Weigh-in: 179.6lbs (+8.1lbs)
10RM's: (start...end)
DB Row: 95x10 --> 100x10 (+5lbs)
Pull-ups: 30x10 --> 30x10 (+0lbs)
CGLPD: 160x10 --> 180x10 (+20lbs)
DB Press: 85x10 --> 95x10 (+10lbs)
Inc BP: 185x10 --> 205x10 (+20lbs)
MP: 155x10 --> 165x10 (+10lbs)
BB Curl: 95x10 --> 105x10
(+10lbs)
Going to have my before/after measurements up tomorrow
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/247788-mv-blr-stack.html
reps4jesus
Well-known member
That's really not that bad. Im gonna pick some up.
If its sold at orbit wouldn't their sales apply towards this product?
mechka_grizli
Well-known member
Got a log up following PHAT routine. Natadrol and anabeta added in
MultiVitamin
Active member
Just want to add to this I was sick (sinus infection) from about day 9-10 until day 18ish and was prescribed amoxicillin, which shouldn't have had any adverse interaction with the Folli, but it definitely seemed to.
Started at 171.4, bumped up to 177ish, started amox dropped back to 170-172, after discontinuation bumped back to 177 area and finished in the 180 area
I made a review previously and kind of knocked folli but it seemed after I dropped the amox this **** really kicked in
mr.cooper69
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I think it's much more likely that having an illness was limiting you in both intensity and lbm gain (illness recovery is heavily nitrogen dependent).
mr.cooper69
Legend
This is unlikely since epitcatechin is not even absorbed through the colonic epithelium and its effects are not dependent on biological transformation in the gut. It's a painfully common misconception when people equate absorption of nutrients with gut flora. The instances wherein this occurs are the exception, not the rule
Mystere3
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Abx will affect absorption through the small bowel as well, where epicatechin is absorbed.
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mr.cooper69
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I mean no offense by this (truly) but you need to actually read what you link. This happens to be my area of professional study and I can assure you that if you google any combination of body parts and flora, your search will yield results. In the case of what you linked, it is exactly what we know in medicine: small bowel OVERPOPULATION by gut flora appears to be the predominant driver behind IBS. This has nothing to do with absorption. The small bowel is intrinsically low in flora, and these flora contribute nothing to nutrient absorption save for extremely extenuating circumstances.
Why is there this impression that bacteria are involved in nutrient absorption? The laypress really drives this home, but it's an undying falsity. You eat, ENZYMES (not bacteria) degrade food products, and luminal transporters absorb them. Bacteria play an incredibly minor role in that the food that escaped absorption makes it into the colon (which is devoid of the necessary nutrient transporters) and the bacteria biologically transform the food into new chemicals that can diffuse across the colonic epithelium. Part of the reason sugar alcohols give GI distress is via these generated byproducts. A few micronutrients are also absorbed via this route, most notably vitamin K.
But again, to the original point, antibiotics will have zero effect on epitcatechin absorption, and small bowel flora have virtually no effect on any activity you do, save for instances of pathology like IBS.
mr.cooper69
Legend
I just got my myosynergy and will be starting it shortly courtesy of dsade. The formula looks superb and I personally can't wait
Jiigzz
Legend
Auslifter
Well-known member
im using it while cutting, lifts were insane today, stronger than i was on 360g of carbs, now on 150g and 8kg lighter. blew last weeks back sesh out of the water, i couldn't help myself doing allot more volume lol. very nice pumps also got some xgels to go with it, eod been testing it solo, then with xgels on major bodyparts or so on.
bdcc
Legend
Noticed better pumps after doing more volume?
I want someone with the most objective, volume load equated logs lol.
*Looks longingly at Hayden*
TheMovement
Well-known member
Hmm wonder if I qualify lol
jjblacksheep
Member
As I'm sure everyone is, curious to see your feedback. I'm starting Alphamax this weekend but will add Folli or Myosynergy weeks 4-8 more than likely.
brundel
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30 days at 2 caps.
brundel
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OUr prices are Mapped meaning they are static at all retailers, however, often guys like Orbit for example will offer a coupon code for a % off whole order sales or combination sales. IN this case it applies. This way our prices are not compromised but you still get the deal.
hurdlemaker
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I'm curious, have any ladies tried this product?
brundel
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Initially I didnt respond to your post about absorption and probiotics etc. FOr a reason of course.
I just didnt have enough information. I dont want to engage in a debate about something knowing I could well be wrong from the first foot.
After some research it appears your right. I read a ton about its absorption and where and how. While gut flora and fauna will still slightly effect absorption in the intestines its not likely it was effected enough by the amox to stop absorption.
Im not sure what happened. Might be that it affected food absortion? Might be he was just sick.
I know for sure he was the only guy to say it wasnt working and the amox and sickness were the only different factors so...IM concluding that the sickness and or amox is still the culprit. I just have no idea how.
This also has set in motion some interesting potential improvements in formulation. So...thank you.
brundel
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There are dozens of logs up all over.
Here are a few though final log reviews.
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brundel
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Also for you guys who have been waiting on this....
Our TOngkat Boron mix-VIRON will be ready for pre sale tomorrow most likely. Labels shipped yesterday. So Ill have em tomorrow.
Ill get a write up done later tonight.
I think youll be surprised what these two ingredients can do.
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Our TOngkat Boron mix-VIRON will be ready for pre sale tomorrow most likely. Labels shipped yesterday. So Ill have em tomorrow.
Ill get a write up done later tonight.
I think youll be surprised what these two ingredients can do.
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kisaj
Legend
I won't, they are phenomenal and I am a long time tongkat user. I am in on presale.
kisaj
Legend
Pretty interesting here because while I wasn't calorie deficient, I never adjusted up for the volume and intensity increase I was putting in for the run. I was still eating maintenance and pushing through PRs, yet gaining weight.
As far as being sick, I don't know how that would even be called into question. How many of us continue to push to our max when we are sick? My observation in my log and final write up was that people that are pushing to the next level are going to see the benefits of FD more than someone just running their everyday routine.
brundel
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I dont think this is right.
He had issues when he was sick but when he stopped the amox and started getting at it in the gym again he gained 8lbs in a week or so.
His food intake was above caloric maintenance at this time. So this theory contradicts the evidence.
brundel
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Just wait......I started to do the write up last night and IM finding stuff I never knew about EL.
VERY interesting studies. Just wait lol.....
This will be another one IM arguing till the cows come home because the studies indicate some things I find hard to believe, however, empirical evidence supports the results.
hurdlemaker
Well-known member
The product I just took had tongkat and boron and I had great results.
jjblacksheep
Member
This. If there has been head to head discussion I've missed it.
Ape McGrapes
Well-known member
How do we know it is a lower dose? Follodrine is in a priority blend.
brundel
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It doesnt really compare. Myo has less than 50% of the dose of epicatechin. Since this is whats causing the results in follidrone you can expect probably less than half the result. Plus forskolin and i think broccoli extracts if i recall correctly.
mtinsideout
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I don't think any of the myosynergy logs are complete yet but def keep an eye on them as well. For the moment follidrone is tested and proven.
brundel
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I know because i created the product. Eventually we will include it on the label. Not until all the copy products are released though.
houstontexas
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Ya what's up with 1 ingredient listed in a prop blend? Am I missing something?
houstontexas
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NVM guess that answers my question lol