What are you tryn to accomplish with it?
Would there be any point in me taking an OTC stim free fat burner on a high calorie cycle? I'm trying to gain as much strength as physically possible, but obviously there will be fat gains on a 1kcal+ surplus. If so, what fat burner would you guys suggest?
Get some GlycoBol & Hyper T2. That combo with keep the gainz lean and mean brother.
This. Don't bother with gylcobol, you'll be thoroughly disappointed.On a PH cycle? If so I would suggest a low/non stim product like RK, Green Coffee bean or Garcinia..Burn 24 would do good as well
Would there be any point in me taking an OTC stim free fat burner on a high calorie cycle? I'm trying to gain as much strength as physically possible, but obviously there will be fat gains on a 1kcal+ surplus.
If so, what fat burner would you guys suggest?
Green coffee bean extract, yohimbine and rk 500 would be good. But 1000kcals is quite excessive and you will gain some fat no matter what you do
Why would anyone need a fat burner while on cycle? If your diet is clean and strict there should be no need for it
This. Don't bother with gylcobol, you'll be thoroughly disappointed.
I'm not really sure what you think a fat burner will accomplish here, besides lighten your wallet. Or why people are suggesting products.
Nah I didn't. I was agreeing with what mw1 said and then added in my own part about the glycobol.I think you quoted the wrong person bro
Maybe something like Recompadrol or Burn 24 may be of help for the heavy carbs meals/cheat meals? Non-stim too... Worth a look
I never suggest high amounts of stimulants for a prohormone cycle, well depending on what the hormone is.....just more likely to create high blood pressure with stimulants with a lot of hormonal products stim free would be the way to go as mentioned, tt33, dcp 2.0....whatever it may be just for added effects
I agree, aside from pre workout stims.
While dieting down I use non stim pre workouts
While gaining I use stim pre workouts
Seems to be best that way
Wouldn't you want the stims more when dieting down?
I feel like that's all in the head kind of thing.
I never use stims and still get the job done. I don't use stims especially on cycle cause of blood pressure.
I'm talking specifically about their effects on fat loss.
The energy is a benefit when you're dieting, sure, but the fat loss benefits and appetite suppression are what I'm referring to.
Oh, I see.
Sorry, I'm on my phone are you talking about OTC stims or prescription?
Prescription stims?
I'm referring to caffeine, yohimbe, ephedrine, etc.
No because of fat burners.Wouldn't you want the stims more when dieting down?
No because of fat burners.
So, you still continue to use stims though, just not in preworkout products.
I'm always using stims
Just non stim pre workouts for when I'm cutting (unless I'm really dragging ass). And stims when I'm gaining (because fat burners are removed)