If FOLLIDRONE is bunk & results R placebo Ill take placebo

kisaj said:
We know your job is to try and negate anything on this board, but it is getting watered down because you are on an island. We have taken it, know it works, and many of us are sharing our experiences. I'm not sure what you are trying to prove at this point.
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He's living up to his name...... Let it go. He's a wanna b.
 
I can't really complain about the effects of follidrone; so far this cycle I've eaten essentially at TDEE, reasonably clean with a couple cheat days. I'm about 21 days into Follidrone and since starting it accelerated my rate of weight gain a bit. I've run pretty stable doses of Anabolics during this cycle (60 dmz, 150 trest). In the two weeks on cycle without Follidrone I gained about 3 lb (235 to 238). In the three weeks since I started the Follidrone I've gained 7 lb (238 to 245). Strength gains have been relatively modest (5-10%) but at my level of experience I don't expect much. I get 10-15% strength increases from test/tren/eq/var.

Much if not most of these gains are due to AAS but I believe the Follidrone has had some benefit.
 
Mystere3 said:
I can't really complain about the effects of follidrone; so far this cycle I've eaten essentially at TDEE, reasonably clean with a couple cheat days. I'm about 21 days into Follidrone and since starting it accelerated my rate of weight gain a bit. I've run pretty stable doses of Anabolics during this cycle (60 dmz, 150 trest). In the two weeks on cycle without Follidrone I gained about 3 lb (235 to 238). In the three weeks since I started the Follidrone I've gained 7 lb (238 to 245). Strength gains have been relatively modest (5-10%) but at my level of experience I don't expect much. I get 10-15% strength increases from test/tren/eq/var.

Much if not most of these gains are due to AAS but I believe the Follidrone has had some benefit.
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This seems about right. Its super hard to gauge when there are alot of AAS on board. Its nice to see weight increase doubled when Follidrone was introduced.
60mg DMZ is alot bro. I just couldnt do it. My blood pressure would give me a stroke.
 
Touey said:
it is hard not to become jaded, marketeers and their claims, I understand the mistrust; natty products promising much and only doing little here and there to augment your goals, I've tried so many over the years. 97% of the time you are let down which is why there is so much scrutiny and perhaps rightly so, but I give credit where credit is due
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Mr Touey what type of gains are you getting with Follidrone?
 
Mission1 said:
He's living up to his name...... Let it go. He's a wanna b.
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Oh trust me, there is nothing to let go. I don't care, I just wanted to point out that he comes into every thread and boo hoos all over anything positive. For new people that don't know this, it can be impressionable, so I want it to be realized.
 
kisaj said:
We know your job is to try and negate anything on this board, but it is getting watered down because you are on an island. We have taken it, know it works, and many of us are sharing our experiences. I'm not sure what you are trying to prove at this point.
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Im pretty sure that isnt his job but just something he does.

Its because of people like him that things like glutamine, mega dosing creatine and other such things come to light. Its a fine line though between helping the board make informed choices and bashing companies.

I like Black Lion Research products but im not yet convinced myostatin inhibition is a real thing apart from in people who have developed the mutation.

Still going to try for myself when it fits in with my training.
 
brundel said:
This is why antibiotics should only be used as a very last resort. They weaken the body alot.Your body contains 10x more bacteria than cells. Antibiotics kill these and they are necessary for survival.Everytime you run an antibotic you need to run a probiotic to get things going in the right direction again.
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Just speaking on this point alone, you are quite wrong about a lot of this. A very prolonged or high dosed course of antiobiotics can certainly wipe out flora to a severe degree (i.e. nosocomial C. Diff. infections), but most outpatient Abx courses don't cause much mischief and they certainly don't necessitate probiotic consumption.There is also absolutely no reason to believe bacteria are involved in the absorption of epicatechin. We know this because studies on epicatechin don't show biological transformation, and the site of absorption is the small intestine, not the colon.
 
Jiigzz said:
Im pretty sure that isnt his job but just something he does. Its because of people like him that things like glutamine, mega dosing creatine and other such things come to light. Its a fine line though between helping the board make informed choices and bashing companies. I like Black Lion Research products but im not yet convinced myostatin inhibition is a real thing apart from in people who have developed the mutation. Still going to try for myself when it fits in with my training.
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And now he's gone....
 
Jiigzz said:
Im pretty sure that isnt his job but just something he does.

Its because of people like him that things like glutamine, mega dosing creatine and other such things come to light. Its a fine line though between helping the board make informed choices and bashing companies.

I like Black Lion Research products but im not yet convinced myostatin inhibition is a real thing apart from in people who have developed the mutation.

Still going to try for myself when it fits in with my training.
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I realize it isn't his actual job, he just approached it as such.

Listen, I am all for open discussion and points brought to light by folks that are in the know, but it was just getting old to read constant negativity for anything being discussed. No big deal, just pointing it out.

As far as myostatin inhibition and FD, I myself do not know what I think about it either. What I do know is that I put on 5lbs and added reps to the top end of my squat, bb bench, clean, and incline which I had been working on for the last 3-4 months. Is that coincidence, placebo, or something else? I don't know, all I know is that I liked the product and it did was it was claiming. I just wrapped up a 30 day run and we'll see how my progress lasts.
 
T-Bone said:
Yeah, pretty disappointing to me. I liked hearing/seeing a difference of opinion. Oh well, I'll continue to form my own opinions and be critical of all products despite other peoples reviews and logs which mean very little to me when deciding on a product that I'll spend money on.
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X2...
It's funny cause the companies that like to quote studies are the ones most fearful of his presence on the forum
 
mw1 said:
X2...
It's funny cause the companies that like to quote studies are the ones most fearful of his presence on the forum
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But his presence in threads never seemed 2 "Help educate" he just seemed to bash a product and 3 pages down the road start to make sense. There are better ways for one to get their point across and he seemed to love organized chaos

Not knocking that he seemed bright and did his homework but just seemed like an ass, idk just my .02s
 
T-Bone said:
Yeah, pretty disappointing to me. I liked hearing/seeing a difference of opinion. Oh well, I'll continue to form my own opinions and be critical of all products despite other peoples reviews and logs which mean very little to me when deciding on a product that I'll spend money on.
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Oh please......as if his opinion had any basis in fact alone.
 
mw1 said:
X2...
It's funny cause the companies that like to quote studies are the ones most fearful of his presence on the forum
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Nobody feared him. He was an annoying *******.
 
TheMovement said:
But his presence in threads never seemed 2 "Help educate" he just seemed to bash a product and 3 pages down the road start to make sense. There are better ways for one to get their point across and he seemed to love organized chaos

Not knocking that he seemed bright and did his homework but just seemed like an ass, idk just my .02s
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Thats why he was banned lol.

Smart for sure but his last few posts were simply bashing. Brundel handled it well though.
 
kisaj said:
I realize it isn't his actual job, he just approached it as such.

Listen, I am all for open discussion and points brought to light by folks that are in the know, but it was just getting old to read constant negativity for anything being discussed. No big deal, just pointing it out.

As far as myostatin inhibition and FD, I myself do not know what I think about it either. What I do know is that I put on 5lbs and added reps to the top end of my squat, bb bench, clean, and incline which I had been working on for the last 3-4 months. Is that coincidence, placebo, or something else? I don't know, all I know is that I liked the product and it did was it was claiming. I just wrapped up a 30 day run ande we'll see how my progress lasts.
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Exactly why we buy products. And exactly why I want to try it. Never been disapointed by a BLR product before.

Theres that young german fella that has a genetic mutation of myostatin inhibition and his physiques, especially at his ages, is incredible.
 
Jiigzz said:
Thats why he was banned lol.

Smart for sure but his last few posts were simply bashing. Brundel handled it well though.
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Brundel has done exactly that!

First week in april he said he was going to let his products speak for themselves and damn if they arent BLASTING a message on out. Got 2 bottles waiting to run with ABE later in the year. Brundel really has proven his caliber and is riding the top of this game.
 
TheMovement said:
Brundel has done exactly that!

First week in april he said he was going to let his products speak for themselves and damn if they arent BLASTING a message on out. Got 2 bottles waiting to run with ABE later in the year. Brundel really has proven his caliber and is riding the top of this game.
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Exactly.

I'm personally not yet convinced this works via myostatin inhibition; but the results from the loggers have been far from disappointing, so I have no doubt that it is working somehow.

Its good to be skeptical or challenge the science, its not good to bash. Brundel let's his products speak for themselves and that is how you handle skepticism.

And also, just to add further, this is all my opinion and does not reflect SNS's as a company.
 
Mission1 said:
This^^^^ sounds like a button got pushed...
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Yeah, the button labeled, "its Sunday, nice out and I'm tired of dealing with children".
 
koi1214 said:
Mr Touey what type of gains are you getting with Follidrone?
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Beau said:
Touey, Can you summarize what changes you have seen? For exampe - changes in thinning out, muscle definition, libido, endurance, etc.? That would be really useful.
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strength, endurance, pumps, all way up. I was thinking to list the percentages how much I feel each to be up but it's high and don't feel like getting an earful from everyone "saying it ain't so" noticeable recomp. and flu like doms particularly Thurs. was wiped out - no ill effects I can tell, was worried about sleep however sleep is great.

It's quite remarkable really for a natty composition to specifically target all these things in a profound way with no negative side effects that I have found or have been found so far.
 
Touey said:
strength, endurance, pumps, all way up. I was thinking to list the percentages how much I feel each to be up but it's high and don't feel like getting an earful from everyone "saying it ain't so" noticeable recomp. and flu like doms particularly Thurs. was wiped out - no ill effects I can tell, was worried about sleep however sleep is great.It's quite remarkable really for a natty composition to specifically target all these things in a profound way with no negative side effects that I have found or have been found so far.
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Thanks.It sounds like a terrific supplement.
 
Touey said:
strength, endurance, pumps, all way up. I was thinking to list the percentages how much I feel each to be up but it's high and don't feel like getting an earful from everyone "saying it ain't so" noticeable recomp. and flu like doms particularly Thurs. was wiped out - no ill effects I can tell, was worried about sleep however sleep is great.

It's quite remarkable really for a natty composition to specifically target all these things in a profound way with no negative side effects that I have found or have been found so far.
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Even though with all your bizarrely worded posts in which 80% of the time I honestly have no clue what you are saying, both this thread you've made as well as your impressions of the product has possibly made me a potential customer of the product.

Good job Touey.
 
kissdadookie said:
Even though with all your bizarrely worded posts in which 80% of the time I honestly have no clue what you are saying, both this thread you've made as well as your impressions of the product has possibly made me a potential customer of the product.Good job Touey.
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Invalid Link Removed why thank you kd very much:) but I am not trying to do a job nor push product. I was pleased, I don't think shocked to strong a word seeing actual results from a natty, so let it be known
 
Touey said:
strength, endurance, pumps, all way up. I was thinking to list the percentages how much I feel each to be up but it's high and don't feel like getting an earful from everyone "saying it ain't so" noticeable recomp. and flu like doms particularly Thurs. was wiped out - no ill effects I can tell, was worried about sleep however sleep is great.

It's quite remarkable really for a natty composition to specifically target all these things in a profound way with no negative side effects that I have found or have been found so far.
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It would be nice to see your %'s.
 
koi1214 said:
It would be nice to see your %'s.
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I understand him not wanting to post numbers. When I posted actual result numbers people thought it was an April fools joke lol. Lots of non believers.....mostly from haters but still. I replied to a million posts about it all over the internet. Luckily we have a pretty strong reputation so we have some people who were willing to have some faith that we were not turning our back and trying to sell off a placebo. Im happy just hearing him say hes shocked with the positive results. THere was a guy on another forum...the one who said "well either Ill gain 7% in 7 days or it doesnt work". If you follow that thread....he is one of our loggers......his posts changed after a few days. From 100% skeptic to hey...seems like im getting stronger. to becoming defensive toward non believers. Once you try it its hard to deny it works. By the way I know alot of guys are waiting on restock. 500 units are en route and 1000 behind that. I should have raws this week and we will rush manufacturing for extra cost on our side. Hopefully NP, Strong, TGB, Orbit, will have stock within 10 days ish.
 
Also...we have another report of 10lbs weight gain in 14 days with no diet change.
Seems like alot of 2-6lbs...with a few scattered freaks.
Ive never used a placebo that did this ;)
 
brundel said:
Hopefully NP, Strong, TGB, Orbit, will have stock within 10 days ish.
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I will undoubtedly order when back in stock. The results thus far have been stellar.
 
brundel said:
I understand him not wanting to post numbers. When I posted actual result numbers people thought it was an April fools joke lol. Lots of non believers.....mostly from haters but still. I replied to a million posts about it all over the internet. Luckily we have a pretty strong reputation so we have some people who were willing to have some faith that we were not turning our back and trying to sell off a placebo. Im happy just hearing him say hes shocked with the positive results. THere was a guy on another forum...the one who said "well either Ill gain 7% in 7 days or it doesnt work". If you follow that thread....he is one of our loggers......his posts changed after a few days. From 100% skeptic to hey...seems like im getting stronger. to becoming defensive toward non believers. Once you try it its hard to deny it works. By the way I know alot of guys are waiting on restock. 500 units are en route and 1000 behind that. I should have raws this week and we will rush manufacturing for extra cost on our side. Hopefully NP, Strong, TGB, Orbit, will have stock within 10 days ish.
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There is no doubt that Follidrone works.All the logs & reviews speak for them selves.
 
SauceMonkey22 said:
Has anyone tried an increased dosage?

Probably gonna run this 8 weeks during a cut to stage ready. See if I can maintain strength.
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We have someone running 200% dose currently. Hes in Europe currently though so..Ill have to wait till he returns to see what happened.

MA70 is planning on running his current cycle 8 weeks and hes got a log up.
So..Im staying tuned for that one.

Like I was saying in his log thread.
THere is no real reason to believe it will stop working at 4 weeks or ...any time.
4 weeks is just how much product was sent to loggers so...4 weeks is what everyone is running.

Initially I was saying run it 4 weeks then a break but I was just being careful until lots of guys had eaten it.
I dont see any reason 8+ weeks wont continue to give results.
 
10 lb in two weeks with no diet change does sound like BS. You couldn't accomplish that with 4g of test with GH. It'd be nice to see a log with frequent pictures and measurements.
 
Mystere3 said:
10 lb in two weeks with no diet change does sound like BS. You couldn't accomplish that with 4g of test with GH. It'd be nice to see a log with frequent pictures and measurements.
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The only thing Id expect from 4g test is a heart attack.
It does sound incredible. I had a hard time believing it the first report I got but now there are several of these.

Lots of things will give you 10lbs in 2 weeks though.
ANadrol for example.
Test suspension.

4 weeks 100mg anadrol and 1g test suspension and youll gain 30lbs easy. Probably more if your eating and the gear is real and properly dosed.
Ive done it personally and seen it in a BUNCH of guys. Not exactly safe and sane but pretty reliable.

Now....I dont think Follidrone= anadrol. OR even close.
I do think for whatever reason some people have an extreme response. At this point it seems to be approx 15% of users.
Most though see 2-6lbs. 10 being the max observed.

There is no reason for people with no affiliation with BLR to make up lies about their response...
Especially when its numerous people. I like a good conspiracy theory but this is really happening.
 
Follidrone works for me and is really effective, I am 12 days. The first effect : monster endurance. 2 : Vascularity and full muscle but I'm on a strict diet prot+ fat 5 days and 2 days prot + high carb . I'm not a beginner so I can truly say it works because I increased my number of reps in all my exercices, at my level I think it is not a placebo and my recovery is really accelerating. I ordered 2 bottles . I'm really not disappointed to have spent my money in follidrone. I think Black Lion Research will be next to my 2 favorite compagnies and PES, EBF
 
XIXOX said:
I think Black Lion Research will be next to my 2 favorite compagnies and PES, EBF
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Is BLR public? If so I may have to make my first stock purchase ever.
 
Safe to assume alot of the weight is glycogen? Curious to see how much weight remains a couple weeks after ending.
 
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