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Mountainman and Follidrone: Oh-Myostatin!

brundel said:
This makes me very happy.
I saw some crazy things in testing. I almost didnt believe it but I trust our testers.

Im super stoked we are seeing it replicated in logs.
Kasaj is also gaining weight as well as another guy on another forum.
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I went from 198 --> 203
 
raekwonse said:
That is crazy. Are people keeping the gains after coming off?
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I'll let you know in 15 days. Um, 212 today but I went out for my birthday last night and tore it up. We ate steak, sushi, taco truck and lots of whiskey. Maybe a variable? Lol.

Oh, but an extra 2 pumps of formeron before heading out and a 5htp held off all hangover. Amazing.
 
ma70 said:
I went from 198 --> 203
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This is so good.
THats significant weight gain considering....its from a plant.
Its non toxic
Actually lowers LDL where oral steroids raise it.
And it has all the other good properties like endurance and strength.
 
Yesterday was chest and traps, getting back into my regular split after a coupe off days of back destruction.

20 Degree Incline DB Press / Low Cable Overhand Grip Rows
60s x 12 / 120 x 12
70s x 12 / 120 x 12
70s x 10 / 120 x 12
70s x 10 / 120 x 11

Incline Underhand Flys / Speed Reverse Flys
20s x 10 / 10s x 20
20s x 10 / 10s x 20
20s x 10 / 10s x 20

Incline DB Press / Bent Over Underhand BB Rows
75s x 9 / 135 x 12
75s x 9 / 135 x 11
75s x 8 / 135 x 9

Pec Deck to Dips / Reverse Flys to Suitcase Rows, no rest
*40* x 5 - BW x 5 / 10s x 8 - 55s x 8
*40* x 5 - BW x 4 / 10s x 8 - 55s x 7
*40* x 4 - BW x 4 / 10s x 8 - 55s x 7

Was able to cram in a ton of food during the day since I worked out early, then went to bartend for the night. Today was an off day, and ate a ton again. Tomorrow is hams and calves with some lower power mixed in. Starting Tuesday is my low rep cycle for 4 weeks. We'll see how my low rep strength work does with the Folli.
 
One quick remark about the TK/Br, I woke up in the middle of the night horny as a teenager and just about raped my wife. Not that she mined, eventually.
 
I need to grab some of this Tongat/ Boron stuff. Ive got the follidrone but need to grab some more. I think im gonna run it 6+ months. Great log thus far though thats for sure.
 
Yesterday was nuts at work so playing catch up.

Hams / Calves

SLDLs / Smith Machine Seated Calf Raises for speed
135 x 15 / 185 x 25
135 x 15 / 185 x 25
225 x 10 / 235 x 20
225 x 9 / 235 x 19

Lying Ham Curls / Machine Leg Press Calf Raises, descending sets
*40* x 10 / *180* x 15 - *170* x 5
*35* x 10 / *170* x 15 - *160* x 5
*30* x 10 / *160* x 15 - *150* x 5
*25* x 10 / *150* x 15 - *140* x 5

Standing DB Calf Raises / Power Cleans
60 x 15 / 135 x 8
60 x 15 / 135 x 2

On my second set, second rep of cleans I mashed my knee cap with the bar on the way up. With patellar tendonitis that is write possibly one of the worst things you can possible do, and it took a good ten minutes before I could even stand normally let alone mover some weights. I tried just doing some more SLDLs but the added weight was too much so I had to call it a day. Still pretty stiff and sore this morning so we'll see how it feels on rows and such this morning during lat work. So off I go to hammer lats and delts.
 
Oh man! Heal up brother.
 
mountainman33 said:
Yesterday was nuts at work so playing catch up. Hams / Calves SLDLs / Smith Machine Seated Calf Raises for speed 135 x 15 / 185 x 25 135 x 15 / 185 x 25 225 x 10 / 235 x 20 225 x 9 / 235 x 19 Lying Ham Curls / Machine Leg Press Calf Raises, descending sets *40* x 10 / *180* x 15 - *170* x 5 *35* x 10 / *170* x 15 - *160* x 5 *30* x 10 / *160* x 15 - *150* x 5 *25* x 10 / *150* x 15 - *140* x 5 Standing DB Calf Raises / Power Cleans 60 x 15 / 135 x 8 60 x 15 / 135 x 2 On my second set, second rep of cleans I mashed my knee cap with the bar on the way up. With patellar tendonitis that is write possibly one of the worst things you can possible do, and it took a good ten minutes before I could even stand normally let alone mover some weights. I tried just doing some more SLDLs but the added weight was too much so I had to call it a day. Still pretty stiff and sore this morning so we'll see how it feels on rows and such this morning during lat work. So off I go to hammer lats and delts.
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I've been looking at something by lgmedsupply that sells a professional grade ultrasound kit that's supposed to work wonders for tendinitis. It's gotten very good reviews and I'm thinking about purchasing it for 150 dollars . Have you ever used ultrasound for your tendonitis?
 
JD261985 said:
I've been looking at something by lgmedsupply that sells a professional grade ultrasound kit that's supposed to work wonders for tendinitis. It's gotten very good reviews and I'm thinking about purchasing it for 150 dollars . Have you ever used ultrasound for your tendonitis?
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No, only on my feet when I had fasciitis. That worked wonders so I'll have to look into that.
 
Damn that sucks man, hope you feel better soon. Until then kill some upper body lol
 
Thanks for the well wishes guys! My knee isn't too bad today. Able to walk around and be mobile, but getting up from my desk certainly is harder today than it used to be. We'll see what happens Thursday depending on if I go to practice. I'll be taking tomorrow as an off day. Did delts and lats today, but bent over exercises were out of the question.

DB OHP / Neutral Grip Pull Ups, 20 seconds rest
40s x 12 / BW x 8
40s x 11 / BW x 7
40s x 10 / BW x 6
40s x 9 / BW x 5

Not sure why it happened that way but each set kept dropping 1 rep. Not that I wasn't trying for more.

Upright BB Rows / Skier Pull Downs, 30 seconds rest
95 x 10 / *50* x 10
95 x 10 / *50* x 10
95 x 10 / *50* x 10

2 Raise Drop Sets / V Handle Low Cable Rows, 1 minute rest
LR 15s x 5, FR 15s x 5, LR 10s x 5, FR 10s x 5 / *120* x 8
LR 15s x 5, FR 15s x 4, LR 10s x 4, FR 10s x 4 / *120* x 8
LR 15s x 4, FR 15s x 4, LR 10s x 4, FR 10s x 3 / *120* x 8

Those 10 lb. DB's sure got heavy in a hurry.

Burn out sets:
OH Cable Tricep Extensions / Skier Pull Downs / BB OHP, no rest
*50* x 8 / *50* x 8 / 95 x 8
*50* x 8 / *50* x 8 / 95 x 8
*50* x 8 / *50* x 8 / 95 x 8

Time to call it quits, but my shoulders are on fire and pumped like crazy. Like last delt workout veins were popping like crazy. And I couldn't get my arms to hang straight down like normal. Good stuff, but Friday will be the beginning of another strength phase for 4 weeks, 5 reps max. Should be interesting to see where the Folli has taken me with that rep range.
 
pete8407 said:
What's a skier pulldown? That last triple set is awesome.
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Skier Pull Down (which is what I call them cuz that's what they make me think of) is a triceps rope on a high pulley, and with your elbows locked (or arms as straight as possible) bring the rope to your hips then try to seperate the rope ends as far apart as you can, like you're using ski poles. :lew: Great way to hit lats and seratus without tiring out biceps.
 
Today was an off day in anticipation of practice tomorrow, but just found out no practice because the school we practice at is closed for break. Oh well. Kept my carbs pretty low today, but just loaded up during dinner with sweet potato fries in chipotle honey mustard. Hot but damn tasty. Tomorrow morning well be another leg annihilation day.
 
This moring started strength phase for 4 weeks. The first week of this phase always sucks because my lefts are always a little weak, but they always end up with at least a 5% increase, and sometimes a 7 - 10% increase depending on the lift.

Quads and Calves

Did a bit of an extra long warm up on the elliptical just to see how my knee was feeling and it actually felt pretty good. Started light on the squats to continue to guage, and felt like I could go almost full bore.

BB Squats / Leg Press Calf Raises
135 x 8 / *110* x 10
225 x 6 / *120* x 10
275 x 5 / *160* x 8
275 x 5 / *170* x 8
225 x 6 / *160* x 8

The last set at 275 wasn't very good. First set at 275 was good, nice and low, stayed tight through the entire motion. First 3 reps of the second set were the same, nice and low, stayed tight, but for some reason on the fourth rep I petered out and knew I wasn't going to be able to get all the way down and get out of the hole. So unfortunately they became 3/4 squats, but my thought process was 3 good and 2 mediocre reps were better than just 3 reps.

Leg Press / Smith Machine Calf Raises
Full Stack x 8 / 285 x 8
Full Stack + 10# Plate x 8 / 275 x 7
Full Stack + 10# Plate x 8 / 275 x 7

Smith Machine Hack Squat / BB Seated Calf Raises
225 x 6 / 275 x 10
265 x 6 / 275 x 9
265 x 5 / 275 x 8

The hack squats were burning pretty good, especially because I was getting super low at the bottom.

Burn outs:
Leg Extensions / Leg Press Calf Raises, no rest
*80* x 8 / *150* x 10
*80* x 7 / *150* x 9
*80* x 6 / *150* x 8
*80* x 6 / *150* x 8
*80* x 5 / *150* x 7

This workout wasn't as intense as my last quad session where I did a million sets, but I was able to rest for much shorter periods than normal on strength phases, Follidrone style. The burn outs had my legs pumped like crazy, and my knee started to get a little sore but I was able finish strong. Walking up stairs to get ready for work was actually more difficult than I anticipated. Looking forward to being able to go even heavier next time around though. I feel like 315 on squats is attainable this phase.
 
If you dropped those squats into the 3-4 range , I have no doubt you would have more top end strength. Once you move into the 6+ range, you start to shift and are using that energy.
 
Looks like a great session to me, my legs would of been spent. I can't get close to that weight with that volume
 
kisaj said:
If you dropped those squats into the 3-4 range , I have no doubt you would have more top end strength. Once you move into the 6+ range, you start to shift and are using that energy.
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Next time around I'll try it. I'll up the weight a bit and see what I can do. Thanks kisaj.
 
pete8407 said:
Looks like a great session to me, my legs would of been spent. I can't get close to that weight with that volume
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I doubt that. I've seen your physique. You're light years ahead of me.
 
mountainman33 said:
Next time around I'll try it. I'll up the weight a bit and see what I can do. Thanks kisaj.
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Start with a good warm up at about 30% to get the blood pumping and then go right into working sets in the 2-5 range with 3 being about the sweet spot. If you want to add in a burnout set at the end, that is individual choice. The key is to not over tax the muscles with volume work in the lower weight ranges.
 
kisaj said:
The key is to not over tax the muscles with volume work in the lower weight ranges.
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Yeah, I'm mainly looking for a CNS efficiency response before a muscular adaptation response. I'll see where I get at 3 reps. Thank you again.
 
Chest and Traps

Started with dumbells since the barbell chest work seems to be a trigger for my elbow pain when I go heavy.

DB Flat Bench Press / 45 Degree Bent BB Rows, Overhand
85s x 6 / 185 x 6
95s x 6 / 205 x 6
95s x 6 / 205 x 5
95s x 5 / 185 x 5

Maxed out my dumbells with the plates I have. Need to get more 10# plates.

BB Incline Bench Press / Machine Seated Rows, Overhand
135 x 6 (very easy) / *130* x 8 (very easy)
165 x 6 / *150* x 6
185 x 5 / *160* x 5

Pec Deck / 45 degree Reverse Flys
*60* x 5 / 25s x 5
*60* x 5 / 25s x 5
*60* x 5 / 25s x 5

Dips / Reverse Flys to Shrugs
BW x 6 / 315 x 5
BW x 6 / 315 x 5
BW x 6 / 295 x 5

Burn out:

Underhand Incline Flys to Smith Machine Incline Press / BB 45 degree Rows, Overhand to Suitcase Rows
20s x 6 - 115 x 8 / 135 x 6 - 45s x 6
20s x 6 - 115 x 8 / 135 x 6 - 45s x 6
20s x 6 - 115 x 8 / 135 x 6 - 45s x 6

Felt very strong throughout my workout this morning, the incline bench press was a surprise as my upper usually isn't very strong. I'll be starting heavier next time around for sure. Ran out of time.....again, which sucks, because I could have done more. Follidrone seems to not only help in endurance for moderate rep work but for heavy low rep work as well. This stuff keeps getting better and better. :bigok:
 
Wow man that's a hell of a workout, heavy lifts too! Nice on the flat DB press, I need more plates as well:)
 
pete8407 said:
Wow man that's a hell of a workout, heavy lifts too! Nice on the flat DB press, I need more plates as well:)
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Thanx Pete. It sucks trying to squeeze 2-1/2 lb. plates onto a dumbbell handle.
 
The other thing I greatly dislike about the beginning of strength phases, besides the temporary lack of strength, is the soreness. My boobies hurt today.
 
Last night at the bar while I was working there was an older lady who asked if she could touch my chest cuz most guys around here don't look like me. I obliged, made her night, and she left a $20 tip on on a $15 tab. Win/win.
 
Lmao! Nice. I know you was super gassed and that tip just made it better.

That's a good feeling. You should've beat. Hahaha
 
So had a party at my house yesterday, tons of food, desserts, and drinks. Ate more than my fair share, and ruled the beer pong table with an iron fist. Took my hangover magic bullet and was fine this morning. After my morning constitution I weighed in at 205. Not sure how much of that was extra food from yesterday and how much was body mass, but we'll see what happens tomorrow morning. Been laying off the food today, and today is another off day so I could take my daughter to see Rio 2.
 
Woke up this a.m. @ 205.

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Yesterday was supposed to be hams and quads but really wanted to train quads again.

BB Squat / Smith Machine Standing Calf Raises
135 x 8 / 135 x 15
225 x 6 / 185 x 12
275 x 5 / 205 x 10
275 x 5 / 205 x 10
225 x 6 / 185 x 12

A big thanks goes out to kisaj for making me feel like a total chump on my squats by the way. :moon:

Machine Leg Press / BB Seated Calf Raises
Full Stack x 8 / 225 x 15
Full Stack + 10 lb. Plate x 8 / 275 x 10
Full Stack + 2 10 lb. Plates x 8 / 275 x 10

Smith Machine Hack Squat / Leg Press Machine Calf Raises
185 x 6 / *180* x 10
185 x 6 / *180* x 10
185 x 6 / *180* x 10

Leg Extensions / Leg Curls / Standing DB Calf Raises, no rest
*80* x 8 / *55* x 6 / 60 x 20
*90* x 8 / *55* x 6 / 60 x 20
*80* x 8 / *55* x 6 / 60 x 20

Time seems to be an issue in the mornings these days because I want to keep going but I need to get ready for dumass work unfortunately. This wasn't an issue last year (when I wasn't using Follidrone :07:)
 
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