Cutting after RPN Havoc cycle?

Hercules1982

Hercules1982

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Greetings all,

I am about to run my first RPN Havoc cycle, and I am well prepared with supporting supplements like AI Cycle Support, AD Liver Milk, Reversitol v2 and Fusion Supplements Post Cycle Matrix. I will run a 4 week cycle on a bulk diet / training programme, with 4 week PCT after that. I was planning to start Jim Stoppani's "Shortcut - to - Shred" about 10-14 days after the last RPN Havoc pill (less than 2 weeks out in the PCT), but I am reading that this might be too early? What are your views on this?

Feedback is much appreciated!
 
Get a serm for pct. end of story. just google it. And make your cycle 6 weeks. 4 is pointless and so is any dosage under 30mg. Hope this helps man. I would also recommend adding some SNS daa to pct. it will help boost natty test to baseline faster.
 
Why not run a 6 week recomp cycle? Would make more sense to me than a short bulk followed immediately by a cut. Plus, I'm pretty sure if you start cutting while in pct you're going to lose any gains you did make.
 
Thx! Although it says maximum 3 pills (30 mg) per day for four weeks on the bottle, I see that most users apparently lean towards your advice of a longer cycle. I have DAA and Reversitol contains a SERM blend.
 
CT3 said:
Why not run a 6 week recomp cycle? Would make more sense to me than a short bulk followed immediately by a cut. Plus, I'm pretty sure if you start cutting while in pct you're going to lose any gains you did make.
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Thanks for the feedback, I will look into it.
 
Hercules1982 said:
Thx! Although it says maximum 3 pills (30 mg) per day for four weeks on the bottle, I see that most users apparently lean towards your advice of a longer cycle. I have DAA and Reversitol contains a SERM blend.
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He's referring to a true SERM, not an OTC product. I think you may need to do some more research before running this cycle. There are tons of logs here on havoc/epi that should prove very beneficial.

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I think Post Cycle Matrix has 6-bromo in it. It's a precursor to 6-bromotestosterone if I'm not mistaken so it can be suppressive. I wouldn't use it during PCT.
 
reps4jesus said:
Get a serm for pct. end of story. just google it. And make your cycle 6 weeks. 4 is pointless and so is any dosage under 30mg. Hope this helps man. I would also recommend adding some SNS daa to pct. it will help boost natty test to baseline faster.
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4 weeks is definitely not pointless, but 6 weeks is better.

OP, DO NOT CUT DURING PCT!!! Don't even cut right after PCT. You will lose all your gains. I would wait at least a month after pct to cut.
 
warbird01 said:
4 weeks is definitely not pointless, but 6 weeks is better.

OP, DO NOT CUT DURING PCT!!! Don't even cut right after PCT. You will lose all your gains. I would wait at least a month after pct to cut.
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^^^this. I made the mistake of cutting after pct, didn't lose all my gains but definitely some
 
CT3 said:
Why not run a 6 week recomp cycle? Would make more sense to me than a short bulk followed immediately by a cut. Plus, I'm pretty sure if you start cutting while in pct you're going to lose any gains you did make.
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Correct do NOT cut in pct.
 
Run the havoc for 6 weeks if you can. 30/40/40/40/40/40

use a SERM for pct for 4 weeks, nolvadex 20/20/10/10 or clomid 75/50/50/25?

use the cycle as a cut/recomp if you ultimately wanna be shredded for summer
 
acethetics said:
Run the havoc for 6 weeks if you can. 30/40/40/40/40/40

use a SERM for pct for 4 weeks, nolvadex 20/20/10/10 or clomid 75/50/50/25?

use the cycle as a cut/recomp if you ultimately wanna be shredded for summer
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Thanks, believe I will go for the recomp. Can anybody recommend a trusted site for ordering Nolvadex online?
 
Hercules1982 said:
Actually it's the easiest thing in the world, however as there some sites that are scam, I would appreciate if someone could confirm a reliable one.
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It's against forum rules, so it's unlikely somebody will.

There's forum sponsors around the page if you look.
 
warbird01 said:
4 weeks is definitely not pointless, but 6 weeks is better.

OP, DO NOT CUT DURING PCT!!! Don't even cut right after PCT. You will lose all your gains. I would wait at least a month after pct to cut.
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Eh, The amount of gains for the amount of suppression isn't really worth it. If your going to shut your test down you might as well get some gains out of it. IMO. But to each his own. If you want to do a 4 weeker go for it.
 
reps4jesus said:
Eh, The amount of gains for the amount of suppression isn't really worth it. If your going to shut your test down you might as well get some gains out of it. IMO. But to each his own. If you want to do a 4 weeker go for it.
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agreed. Why stop the cycle when its barely starting to get good
 
Havoc is great for recomp. Do a six week recomp with havoc. You will like the gains, I have done this several times for bodybuilding competition.
 
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