Well yes, but buying any other time than when it's on sale for $10/lb would be silly.I think OEP protein only comes in 2 lb tubs, right?
Well yes, but buying any other time than when it's on sale for $10/lb would be silly.I think OEP protein only comes in 2 lb tubs, right?
Yeah. 32 dollars for 2 lbs....way too costly. I'm hoping it stays on sale for a LONG time....lol.Well yes, but buying any other time than when it's on sale for $10/lb would be silly.
Kind of screwed when the stuff doesn't go on sale regularly.BTW, don’t get me wrong and assume that I think $32 for 2 lbs of protein is a bargain. There’s a reason I usually just buy Gourmet or Elite Whey. I said that Metabolic Drive was good quality protein at a fair (market) price. I didn't imply that it was a bargain.Well yes, but buying any other time than when it's on sale for $10/lb would be silly.
So buy something else? Companies wouldn't be moving to selling 2 lb tubs at 33% higher prices if people didn't go for it.Kind of screwed when the stuff doesn't go on sale regularly.
I said eff it, took some of my returns $$$ and ordered 4 bottles. Haven't decided if I want to start it when I start my second bottle of Norcodrene or after my cut.Yeah that's why I posted on here asking about it. It really sucks cause I wouldn't even mind testing it but it's EXPENSIVE (20 day supply for 60 bucks?)
Nice. What kind of training style do you do? (strength/bb?)I said eff it, took some of my returns $$$ and ordered 4 bottles. Haven't decided if I want to start it when I start my second bottle of Norcodrene or after my cut.
Splits. 4-5 exercises per muscle group. 8-16 reps range. 3-4 sets per. 5 days lift, 1 day cardio.Nice. What kind of training style do you do? (strength/bb?)
I see. I might modify the 5/3/1 I'm doing to just have more volume if I decide to try this stuff out.Splits. 4-5 exercises per muscle group. 8-16 reps range. 3-4 sets per. 5 days lift, 1 day cardio.
As far as I can tell, PA's strength is in hypertrophy, which is right up my alleyI see. I might modify the 5/3/1 I'm doing to just have more volume if I decide to try this stuff out.
I was reading CT's thread on T-Nation and he said if you emphasize the eccentric portion of the major lifts it helps out a lot with activating MTOR.As far as I can tell, PA's strength is in hypertrophy, which is right up my alley
Yup, Meadows says the same thing Those guys train at high volumes though as well.I think with DY style training, PA would work well and you can also gain a good amount of strength with that style as well.I was reading CT's thread on T-Nation and he said if you emphasize the eccentric portion of the major lifts it helps out a lot with activating MTOR.
I haven't decided if I want to run 30 days of it along with my second bottle of Norcodrene and then the remaining 50 days supply whilst on maintenance calories, or if I want to run the entire 80 days supply after I cut and go back on maintenance calories Bottles are coming in tomorrow or Friday most likely, they shipped it already.Do you plan on running Micro-PA standalone?
I use CREmTOR as my creatine daily. It's mostly a HICA + 1 gram of leucine supp though, the creatine is just the extra value add. I believe HICA activates mTOR similarly to leucine?I suggest Leucine tabs and creatine to run with this.
Those people are crazy Even if you DOUBLE your usual gains, you still can't notice much of anything in a week. I can however believe that it's possible to have a pump going and lasting longer because if you are staying anabolic for longer (which is supposedly what the science behind PA suggests) and have food being taken within that period, it could possibly make your muscles fuller. However, having a muscle pump doesn't really mean you've actually gained any muscleA lot of people said they noticed massive "gains" within a week or two so I wonder if even one bottle is good enough to really judge it.
Just looked at the CREmTOR profile. Yes, perfect to run with PA.I haven't decided if I want to run 30 days of it along with my second bottle of Norcodrene and then the remaining 50 days supply whilst on maintenance calories, or if I want to run the entire 80 days supply after I cut and go back on maintenance calories Bottles are coming in tomorrow or Friday most likely, they shipped it already. I use CREmTOR as my creatine daily. It's mostly a HICA + 1 gram of leucine supp though, the creatine is just the extra value add. I believe HICA activates mTOR similarly to leucine?
Well, it's t-nation....and Biotest seems like a god to them.Those people are crazy Even if you DOUBLE your usual gains, you still can't notice much of anything in a week. I can however believe that it's possible to have a pump going and lasting longer because if you are staying anabolic for longer (which is supposedly what the science behind PA suggests) and have food being taken within that period, it could possibly make your muscles fuller. However, having a muscle pump doesn't really mean you've actually gained any muscle
LoL.Well, it's t-nation....and Biotest seems like a god to them.
Either way, I'm gonna sit back and maybe when I get bored of waiting for stuff, I'll just order 1-2 bottles of PA.
Yeah unfortunately thanks to buying a new car my supplement budget has been cut down (otherwise I'd be all for Micro-PA). I ran a killer Anabeta/ArA stack recently and now I'm on a cutting stack (Reform/AT2/Norcodrene/Burn24). After these two stacks I think I'll have to take a break from these kinds of stacks for awhile unless I get a pay increase, haha.LoL.
There's also that HMB-FA coming out. For a deep pockets person, that should be fun to run with PA I would think, since the two ingredients works through different pathways (HMB-FA seems to be highly anti-catabolic whilst PA is a strong mTOR signaller that stays in your system for 7 hours or so according to Dr. Wilson).
When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put aside childish things.lol at people complaining about $32 for 2 pounds. I used to spend $70 a tub for Vasolate.
That stuff is tasty. Still friggin really expensive for the amount of actual protein you get. Practically a mass gainer.lol at people complaining about $32 for 2 pounds. I used to spend $70 a tub for Vasolate.
I'm not sure where you're going with this.When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put aside childish things.
Yeah, not to mention with the way flavoring is going, not worth it anymore. Besides, you can get UP 2.0 for half the price.That stuff is tasty. Still friggin really expensive for the amount of actual protein you get. Practically a mass gainer.
AgreedYeah, not to mention with the way flavoring is going, not worth it anymore. Besides, you can get UP 2.0 for half the price.
Impressions, periodic updates. If you look my logs up on bb forum, you'll see why I don't want to start another log. Those things are tremendous work for me because I take notes, I track everything, it's just very time consuming and distracting when I'm in the gym. I ordered 4 bottles initially then I ordered another 2 bottles after seeing class action settlement money magically appearing in my bank acct So the first order is arriving today, I will start on it tomorrow. I have a pretty good idea of what my current stack provides me since the only change has been Norcodrene + bronkaid and I'm almost done with the first bottle of Norcodrene. If the Micro-PA does anything, I should be able to take notice of it after a week or so (going by the anecdotal feedback I have read by people using the product). By noticing something, I don't mean strength or muscle gains, but I'm anticipating maybe recovery changes or muscle fullness. It's understandable that I'm not in the best situation for gains since I'm on a caloric deficit, plus gains comes so slow. LoL.By the way, kissdadookie, are you planning on logging your progress with PA or just gonna do basic reports?
I'm in the same boat. I just bulked and now I'm on a cut so there's a lot of new exciting stuff that I don't think would suit me for now. Just gotta wait now...Impressions, periodic updates. If you look my logs up on bb forum, you'll see why I don't want to start another log. Those things are tremendous work for me because I take notes, I track everything, it's just very time consuming and distracting when I'm in the gym. I ordered 4 bottles initially then I ordered another 2 bottles after seeing class action settlement money magically appearing in my bank acct So the first order is arriving today, I will start on it tomorrow. I have a pretty good idea of what my current stack provides me since the only change has been Norcodrene + bronkaid and I'm almost done with the first bottle of Norcodrene. If the Micro-PA does anything, I should be able to take notice of it after a week or so (going by the anecdotal feedback I have read by people using the product). By noticing something, I don't mean strength or muscle gains, but I'm anticipating maybe recovery changes or muscle fullness. It's understandable that I'm not in the best situation for gains since I'm on a caloric deficit, plus gains comes so slow. LoL.
I hear yahI'm in the same boat. I just bulked and now I'm on a cut so there's a lot of new exciting stuff that I don't think would suit me for now. Just gotta wait now...
Me too. LoL.Excited to see the results.
I expect you to gain 10 lbs in one week....lol.Me too. LoL.
You've been on t-nation for too long my friend. LoL.I expect you to gain 10 lbs in one week....lol.
LOL. I actually just registered today. You actually can't post topics in the Micro-PA forum without approval...uh oh.You've been on t-nation for too long my friend. LoL.
I'm able to post just fine in that forum it would appear. I think they made it a customers only forum in terms of being able to post in it (thus the board is called Micro-PA Users).LOL. I actually just registered today. You actually can't post topics in the Micro-PA forum without approval...uh oh.
Chit is $$$$$$. I'm dosing as per label. Lulz.Are you going with the standard dose everyday or are you going to do some other variation that people have been doing?
It's like a Micro-PA club forming, lol.Just picked up 2 bottles. Hope it will be worth the $
It had to start somewhere here.It's like a Micro-PA club forming, lol.
Awesome. Looking forward to hearing your results.Starting this stuff next week (Tuesday I believe)!
Yeah budday! Running it for 120 days through Well, maybe not that long, might just run it for 80 days and save the other two bottles for another run... That's if this stuff ends up being effective, if not, I'm sure someone will pick it up if I put it up for sale at a discount.Awesome. Looking forward to hearing your results.
PM me lmao as soon as u make that decisionYeah budday! Running it for 120 days through Well, maybe not that long, might just run it for 80 days and save the other two bottles for another run... That's if this stuff ends up being effective, if not, I'm sure someone will pick it up if I put it up for sale at a discount.
Lulz.PM me lmao as soon as u make that decision
Right on dude!Yeah budday! Running it for 120 days through Well, maybe not that long, might just run it for 80 days and save the other two bottles for another run... That's if this stuff ends up being effective, if not, I'm sure someone will pick it up if I put it up for sale at a discount.
I think that's maybe the only study out on PA's effect on strength training?Right on dude! This isn't the same study as the first one linked right?JISSN | Full text | Phosphatidic acid supplementation increases skeletal muscle hypertrophy and strengthSorry, I can't figure out how to copy and paste the abstract on my phone. Still new to this smart phone thing.
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