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Advice on Epistane

Dedmoroz

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I was looking for some advice on whether or not I should take the PH Epistane.
I'm 18, 5"9, 150, lifts are great for my bodyweight (bench almost double my bodyweight, knee messed up at the moment so not sure about squats, deadlifts in the mid 300s because grip gives out after), low weight because I have really low bodyfat and thin bones.
My friend and I are considering doing a 4-6 week cycle of Epistane and nothing else. I've been llifting for about 3 years now seriously.
My main worry is keeping gains after I stop as we don't plan on doing PCT. I read in another thread that if I do it at this age I'll stop any chance of growing taller. However I went to an endocrinologist when I was 16 and he said I'm done growing.
I'm also a bit worried about side effects and from research it seems epistane is safer than most PHs and AAS which I won't do, at least as of now. Also what's the recommended cycle. I read 20/30/30/40/40 is good but I'm confused as to what this means, is it that many mg every day during those weeks?

And if not, please tell me why, I'm trying to weigh pros and cons
 
Dedmoroz said:
I was looking for some advice on whether or not I should take the PH Epistane. I'm 18, 5"9, 150, lifts are great for my bodyweight (bench almost double my bodyweight, knee messed up at the moment so not sure about squats, deadlifts in the mid 300s because grip gives out after), low weight because I have really low bodyfat and thin bones. My friend and I are considering doing a 4-6 week cycle of Epistane and nothing else. I've been llifting for about 3 years now seriously. My main worry is keeping gains after I stop as we don't plan on doing PCT. I read in another thread that if I do it at this age I'll stop any chance of growing taller. However I went to an endocrinologist when I was 16 and he said I'm done growing. I'm also a bit worried about side effects and from research it seems epistane is safer than most PHs and AAS which I won't do, at least as of now. Also what's the recommended cycle. I read 20/30/30/40/40 is good but I'm confused as to what this means, is it that many mg every day during those weeks? And if not, please tell me why, I'm trying to weigh pros and cons
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Bro listen to the people when they say no. Enjoy your life now! Don't let one person tell you go ahead and take them. Everyone here is gonna tell you what you don't wanna hear. Don't f****** do it kid!
 
SauceMonkey22 said:
your 18, endocrine system is still developing.

if you take something like this, you can **** yourself long-term big time. more susceptible to it the younger you are, just wait my friend. you have your entire life after you're 21 to run whatever it is you wanna run. it's 100% not worth it

I have a friend who ran a PH and Anavar at 18/19, and he's on TRT... at 22. it just isn't worth it. and who know's if he ****ed himself up to have children one day

you're smart for weighing the pros and cons, but seriously the cons > pros by a long shot.
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I agree he should wait but why does everyone say 21? like its a magic number
 
Ppl recommend waiting till 21 bc it's when the hpta is mostly mature. A lot of human development isn't complete until the early 20s including myelination of the CNS including parts of the hpta, endocrine organ maturation, and testicular maturation.
 
Creatine, whey. When you add all the cycle support and pct, PHs arebt cheap. Your idea of not running pct is straight f-tard. Not only will you f up your hpta but you'll lose all your gains too.
 
Don't see why you would need a ph/steroid your young and your test levels should be through the roof at that age. Take the time to build a legit foundation of muscle before ****ing with your hormones. I'm ending a cycle of epi and yes I made some gains, I put on around 10 lbs but I'm still a newb I could have got the same results with proper diet and exercise. Build a foundation first after a few years hopefully after your 25 and possibly reach your genetic potential think about a cycle then. You could potentially **** your self up for the rest of your life taking this **** so young.
 
Agree with all of the above. I never touched a PH until my mid 30's. I totally understand the temptation but enjoy the natty ride, you will look back one day when you are older and wish you could pack on muscle and eat whatever you want. Also, it's worth pointing out a couple of other things: no PCT is a recipe for disaster with potential life-altering consequences. Also, Epi is a designer steroid so your assertion that you'd never do AAS is a tad flawed. Lifting weights, getting big and looking jacked is HARD. It requires dedication, discipline and desire. A 4 week epi run is pointless and possibly even counterproductive.

Rant over lol
 
Alright . 27. crossfitter looking to gain a little edge on the competition. Pretty strong as it is but looking for more. This will be my first prohormone experience and dont wanna kill my liver. I dont drink, smoke, so far body has been a temple. Tried some Lg sciences stuff in high school but thats it. purchased some brawn (epistane clone). taking organ shield by purus labs alongside for support and planned on lecheek ad pct for the post cycle. Anything wrong with this. Also debating pulse cycle or straight cycle.
 
Dedmoroz said:
we don't plan on doing PCT.
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Enough people have gone into the age part but even if you were fully matured the fact that this quote is in your post shows you're not even close to ready bud. Disregarding PCT can and most likely will (know one guy that got lucky) result in major issues. You don't wanna get rebound gyno and have bigger breasts that half the girls at your high school.
 
pgno23 said:
Enough people have gone into the age part but even if you were fully matured the fact that this quote is in your post shows you're not even close to ready bud. Disregarding PCT can and most likely will (know one guy that got lucky) result in major issues. You don't wanna get rebound gyno and have bigger breasts that half the girls at your high school.
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We're freaks! We don't care about PCT.
 
kfree said:
Alright . 27. crossfitter looking to gain a little edge on the competition. Pretty strong as it is but looking for more. This will be my first prohormone experience and dont wanna kill my liver. I dont drink, smoke, so far body has been a temple. Tried some Lg sciences stuff in high school but thats it. purchased some brawn (epistane clone). taking organ shield by purus labs alongside for support and planned on lecheek ad pct for the post cycle. Anything wrong with this. Also debating pulse cycle or straight cycle.
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Lg science stuff is PH though correct?
 
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