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Everyone reacts differently. I too put on plenty of weight with Epi, no matter what brand I'm using. I gain more with it than I gain on dbol.
 
koi1214 said:
Have you made any changes is in your diet?
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Ton of protein 250-275 a day sometimes I was in the 180-190 range. I'm eating clean it may be water weight too, been bloated lately. I started taking miralax at night to clear me out.
 
koi1214 said:
Like Bundel said though with Epi you should be hardened not bloated.
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I am harder but my lower abdomen is def bloated. I could be holding some extra food in there who knows. I weighed myself at work today and I was 218 I will try it in the morning.
 
luckylefty811 said:
I am harder but my lower abdomen is def bloated. I could be holding some extra food in there who knows. I weighed myself at work today and I was 218 I will try it in the morning.
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Hey Google Aerobic Life MAG07. This stuff is amazing for intestinal & digestive support. It works and it really helps with stomach bloating.
 
But what about running formeron past 10 weeks straight is that okay ?
 
koi1214 said:
Did you check out MAG07?I have been using it on and off for a while know.I like to combine it with a good probiotic powder.
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Yea looks good pretty cheap I have garden of life right now maybe I'll throw it in there. Been using psyllium husk powder lately.
 
luckylefty811 said:
Ton of protein 250-275 a day sometimes I was in the 180-190 range. I'm eating clean it may be water weight too, been bloated lately. I started taking miralax at night to clear me out.
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have you upped your water intake to go with the protein increase? could be retaining water because of it?
 
Couple quick questions - as far as the "drying out" part of formeron, does that happen whether it's 2 pumps, 4 pumps or even up to 6? What I mean is, does taking a higher dose like 4 or 6 pumps result in bloat at some point or does formeron pretty much just dry you out no matter what the dose?
 
Psychward said:
Couple quick questions - as far as the "drying out" part of formeron, does that happen whether it's 2 pumps, 4 pumps or even up to 6? What I mean is, does taking a higher dose like 4 or 6 pumps result in bloat at some point or does formeron pretty much just dry you out no matter what the dose?
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pretty sure it just drys you out, higher dosing can lead to some joint pain as you dry out but it shows its working, i'm getting some shoulder pain on 4(ish) pumps but its managable
 
Ill answer all in one post.

WHen you said you were bloated from EPI I thought you meant like....tons of subq water retention that is standard issue with wet compounds like dbol or dymethazine. Moon face. Test also does this if you dont use an AI especially at higher doses.
Sounds like you just have been eating more and probably need to start using a probiotic. Perhaps even run coreg for 2-4 days to clean out the pipes.
THis should remedy things.


Formeron at low doses is pretty much just an AI which will not cause water retention.
At higher doses where it has a higher conversion rate to hydroxytest its also not aromatizable. Htest is basically dry testosterone. Same effect without the estrogenic sides.


Also I pulled a random bottle out of the lineup yesterday and measured the pump ejection volume.
Just under 1.5 for a full pump.
 
Wanted to come in and post my experience with Formeron

I am on TRT and on 2/14 had blood work and my Estradiol was 64.9

I ordered some formeron and received it on 2/20 I dosed it 2 pumps am and 2 pumps pm for the past 4 weeks

I had blood work taken yesterday and received the results today and my Estradiol came back at 17.1

So a huge thank you to the Black Lion team outstanding product does exactly what it is suppose to. I am considering doing less pumps based on the results what would you recommend. Could I get away with 2 pumps allowing the bottle to last twice as long ?
 
MikeST said:
have you upped your water intake to go with the protein increase? could be retaining water because of it?
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Never thought of it. I increased my probiotic today and I took a laxative tea lets just say I only gained 10lbs on this lolol. lve been to the bathroom every 3-4 hours today it sucks.
 
I'm good today lolol sorry about the weight thing I freaked out when I went on the scale. But I did gain 10lbs. I haven't really eaten that much since last night because of this tea just been drinking a lot of water really.
 
Just a quick question, First twopumps of formeron are on, now I used forearms to apply to chest and abs however I washed my forearms straight as I'm home with kids, considering I wash the forearms straight away with soap to remove any residues, is it ok to use the hands next time as i can only let it absord on clothed areas anyways? Or is there a different reason behind the hands vs forearms?
 
Don't apply with bare hands. Get yourself a box of surgical gloves. I get mine at Walgreens. Much easier to apply than forearms and you know it will all absorb where you apply.
 
dollar662 said:
Wanted to come in and post my experience with Formeron I am on TRT and on 2/14 had blood work and my Estradiol was 64.9 I ordered some formeron and received it on 2/20 I dosed it 2 pumps am and 2 pumps pm for the past 4 weeks I had blood work taken yesterday and received the results today and my Estradiol came back at 17.1 So a huge thank you to the Black Lion team outstanding product does exactly what it is suppose to. I am considering doing less pumps based on the results what would you recommend. Could I get away with 2 pumps allowing the bottle to last twice as long ?
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Bro it just ****ing works. No doubt about it. People who say it isn't good enough are missing out
 
Will replacing Epro & Daa with formeron be a good idea? I'm finding the current stack is not working for me at all, in raising my natural Test. Been 7 weeks, & feel weak & crap still.
Also could i use Epro, daa with formeron?
 
dollar662 said:
Wanted to come in and post my experience with Formeron

I am on TRT and on 2/14 had blood work and my Estradiol was 64.9

I ordered some formeron and received it on 2/20 I dosed it 2 pumps am and 2 pumps pm for the past 4 weeks

I had blood work taken yesterday and received the results today and my Estradiol came back at 17.1

So a huge thank you to the Black Lion team outstanding product does exactly what it is suppose to. I am considering doing less pumps based on the results what would you recommend. Could I get away with 2 pumps allowing the bottle to last twice as long ?
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Looks like you could use less yes.
17.1 is actually on the low side for me personally. I like around 25-30. When it gets up to the 90s I start crying at movies and watching Oprah.
Under 20 I start losing libido.

Id say 1 pump AM 1 Pm would likely do the trick.
I love hearing about bloodwork results as this is the ultimate validation.
 
luckylefty811 said:
I'm good today lolol sorry about the weight thing I freaked out when I went on the scale. But I did gain 10lbs. I haven't really eaten that much since last night because of this tea just been drinking a lot of water really.
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Wow....10lbs of waste in your body is extremely unhealthy.
Keep on those probiotics and me personally I would run a couple days a month of coreg to clean out the pipes. Gentle stuff...not 13 craps a day lol.
 
heavyweight83 said:
Just a quick question, First twopumps of formeron are on, now I used forearms to apply to chest and abs however I washed my forearms straight as I'm home with kids, considering I wash the forearms straight away with soap to remove any residues, is it ok to use the hands next time as i can only let it absord on clothed areas anyways? Or is there a different reason behind the hands vs forearms?
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basically absorption of transdermals on the hands is 0. So anything that touches the hands is 100% wasted. Trust me itll be like 50% of your product wasted.
Use wrists or gloves. You can reuse the gloves a few times most likely. Just dont let em get funky.
 
Beefeater71 said:
Will replacing Epro & Daa with formeron be a good idea? I'm finding the current stack is not working for me at all, in raising my natural Test. Been 7 weeks, & feel weak & crap still.
Also could i use Epro, daa with formeron?
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I agree with everyone. Drop the others and start Formeron.

We tested DAA and NMDA and neither did anything at all in blood testing. Actually estrogen and Prolactin went up in 2 testers with 0 test increase.
So if this also happens to you it means its doing the exact opposite of what we want to happen.
I used to back DAA because the research looked good and there were guys trying to patent it....turns out its just another placebo.
Blood testing doesnt lie.
 
brundel said:
I agree with everyone. Drop the others and start Formeron. We tested DAA and NMDA and neither did anything at all in blood testing. Actually estrogen and Prolactin went up in 2 testers with 0 test increase. So if this also happens to you it means its doing the exact opposite of what we want to happen. I used to back DAA because the research looked good and there were guys trying to patent it....turns out its just another placebo. Blood testing doesnt lie.
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yeah, I found it all did work the opposite. Lethargic, no gains, etc. let's hope formeron gives me some results.
 
Beefeater71 said:
yeah, I found it all did work the opposite. Lethargic, no gains, etc. let's hope formeron gives me some results.
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If you read this thread ( I realize its massive) and google reviews of Formeron youll find dozens, perhaps hundreds of positive reviews and 0 negative.
I tinkered with the carrier for 3 years before I settled on the current version.
Its as good as it can be. It strikes a balance between working well and not damaging your skin.
I feel confident in saying it will work for you.
 
brundel said:
I agree with everyone. Drop the others and start Formeron.

We tested DAA and NMDA and neither did anything at all in blood testing. Actually estrogen and Prolactin went up in 2 testers with 0 test increase.
So if this also happens to you it means its doing the exact opposite of what we want to happen.
I used to back DAA because the research looked good and there were guys trying to patent it....turns out its just another placebo.
Blood testing doesnt lie.
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Hmmm...interesting because I've been using DAA now for about 3-4 weeks and have noticed nothing...neither negative or positive. Now, I have been using Erase for a little over a week now but it's still early to tell if it's working or not. I may just run the rest of the bottle and hop on Formeron or just out right stop it and start Formeron within a week or two.
 
Generally you notice Formeron pretty quick.
Im a fan of products you feel working and see results from.
 
brundel said:
Wow....10lbs of waste in your body is extremely unhealthy. Keep on those probiotics and me personally I would run a couple days a month of coreg to clean out the pipes. Gentle stuff...not 13 craps a day lol.
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What is coreg ? I was about to leave work yesterday it was ugly !
 
I was on a 8 week run of ostarine and had cut short because of extreme nipple sensitivity and gyno flare up. I turned to Toremifene and after 3 weeks I saw no improvement so I turned to Formeron like I've done in the past and after 3 weeks of Formeron the pain is nearly gone and lump is dropping in size. Formeron came through like a champ again at 2 pumps (about 3mL/day) I've pretty much resigned myself to fact that I cannot run anything remotely hormonal for gains as I'm super prone to gyno flare ups. Even DAA for a few days has done it in the past. From reading the thread it seems if I up the pumps I can get some anabolic effects? If so, i the sweet spot 4 pumps split AM/PM or should all 4 pumps be in teh morning after shower? I'm looking to add size and necessarily strength.

Also, side question I'm thinking out loud about. My wife and I are trying to have another baby and I worry about fertility. I would guess that an AI like Formeron couldn't possibly have a negative effect on fertility but if anything it would increase fertility because of slaying estrogen which prompts LH/FSA to produce and to tell the boys to produce more T. More LH/FSA means more fertile, right?
 
luckylefty811 said:
What is coreg ? I was about to leave work yesterday it was ugly !
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Coreg is a stool softener.
I take it twice a month for 2-3 days. Ive found I absorb and digest food much better and just feel better overall not having all that impacted fecal waste in my body.
 
lepiricus said:
I was on a 8 week run of ostarine and had cut short because of extreme nipple sensitivity and gyno flare up. I turned to Toremifene and after 3 weeks I saw no improvement so I turned to Formeron like I've done in the past and after 3 weeks of Formeron the pain is nearly gone and lump is dropping in size. Formeron came through like a champ again at 2 pumps (about 3mL/day) I've pretty much resigned myself to fact that I cannot run anything remotely hormonal for gains as I'm super prone to gyno flare ups. Even DAA for a few days has done it in the past. From reading the thread it seems if I up the pumps I can get some anabolic effects? If so, i the sweet spot 4 pumps split AM/PM or should all 4 pumps be in teh morning after shower? I'm looking to add size and necessarily strength.

Also, side question I'm thinking out loud about. My wife and I are trying to have another baby and I worry about fertility. I would guess that an AI like Formeron couldn't possibly have a negative effect on fertility but if anything it would increase fertility because of slaying estrogen which prompts LH/FSA to produce and to tell the boys to produce more T. More LH/FSA means more fertile, right?
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Im unsure the exact % of conversion with regards to hydroxy test but I do know the more you run the stronger the effect gets.
4 pumps is a good jump off spot. More works better but eventually this becomes expensive.

2 am 2 pm is good..
Or I really like 1 am 2 before training 1 pm.
 
brundel said:
I tinkered with the carrier for 3 years before I settled on the current version.
Its as good as it can be. It strikes a balance between working well and not damaging your skin.
I feel confident in saying it will work for you.
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For those of us who home-mix a few PHs, just out of curiosity and based on your experience, do you consider Phlogel Ultra to be as good of transdermal carrier as is commercially available.
 
Mission1 said:
I think he did. I looked up coreg. Has nothing to do with sir pooopaaaa .
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that would explain it ! loll yea i might have to pick some up, I've been using miralax but its not working that quickly.
 
Beau said:
For those of us who home-mix a few PHs, just out of curiosity and based on your experience, do you consider Phlogel Ultra to be as good of transdermal carrier as is commercially available.
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Ive never used it but Ive heard good things.
We may release ours for public use at some point. For now there are too many irons in the fire.
 
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