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GDAs - Your Favorite?

Rostam said:
Why nobody mentioned cinnamon extract? And it seems not be part of any of popular GDAs.
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It's in Glycobol, which I found fairly effective hard on my GI tract though.

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Natty have you tried Metabolic Powder? Cook it into anything or just in water is fine too
 
EBF Inc said:
It's disgusting. I do not recommend

I used to toss one in my intra

I got through like 30% of it. Tossed the rest
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Haha I can only imagine. I once mixed berberine (yellow gold) with nutra's 20% CA banaba. It was somehow even worse than straight berberine. Even the smell made me want to wretch. I know both of those are in recompadrol so I would imagine the taste would be awful...luckily I will never have to find out as I have no problem with pills :)
 
blacklac said:
What's the best bang for your buck, brand, of capped Na-R-Ala? I miss those deals on SAN's product for ~$11-12. :/
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I would just buy 100g from nutra (100 bucks) and a capping kit and cap your own. If you don't want to spend $ on a capping kit, you can just press caps into a shallow bowl of powder to fill them. This actually crams more in than a capping kit and only takes a little bit longer. It's a little messy though. I bought a capping kit and was surprised that it didn't save much time. Making 100 pills take me about 20-30 min on the kit, or 30-40 just pressing pills.

If you know for a fact that you love Na-R-ALA, do that. Nothing will be cheaper and it will last you a year ;)
 
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tyrub42 said:
I would just buy 100g from nutra (100 bucks) and a capping kit and cap your own. If you don't want to spend $ on a capping kit, you can just press caps into a shallow bowl of powder to fill them. This actually crams more in than a capping kit and only takes a little bit longer. It's a little messy though. I bought a capping kit and was surprised that it didn't save much time. Making 100 pills take me about 20-30 min on the kit, or 30-40 just pressing pills. If you know for a fact that you love Na-R-ALA, do that. Nothing will be cheaper and it will last you a year ;)
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I'd be afraid of moisture getting to the tub, and considering the cost for that much, I'd personally feel safer going with the smaller tub. :p
 
aaronuconn said:
I'd be afraid of moisture getting to the tub, and considering the cost for that much, I'd personally feel safer going with the smaller tub. :p
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Definitely a valid concern haha. I split the cost of a 100g tub with a friend to take back to TW next summer, then got impatient and paid to have it shipped here from my parents' house. Then it got here and I couldn't use it due to crazy heartburn reaction (like, 12 hours + of hearburn and cramping). Now I just cap it and sell it to an old dude I work with. I have him on berberine and Na-r-ala. Dude says he hasn't felt this good in years. I am just pissed that I seem to be the only person out there that reacts so badly to Na-R-ALA and I was so excited about getting it.

On a side note, I am in about the most humid place on earth and the powder doesn't seem to attract water at all. I capped bulk 1-carboxy once and left a cap out on the counter. By the next day it attracted so much water that the entire cap had liquified into a goo. The Na-R-ALA I haven't refrigerated and it is dry as a bone. Since I cap it I try not to refrigerate as being cold makes anything attract water when I take it out to cap. I will have to start, though, now that it is getting hot again here.
 
I seem to remember it giving me heartburn, occassionally. Nothing crazy.
 
blacklac said:
I seem to remember it giving me heartburn, occassionally. Nothing crazy.
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Yeah dude you are fine I'm sure; most people get no negative effects from it and a whole world of positives. My reaction was so bad I didn't think it could have been from the Na-R-ALA until I dosed it again and the same thing happened. Sucks, but that's life I guess. Look into taking ALCAR while taking Na-R-ALA as many people seem to love that combo (I think you are not supposed to dose them simultaneously because of some polymerization issue or something, but there are plenty of threads where smarter people than me give very specific instructions for dosing them).
 
tyrub42 said:
Yeah dude you are fine I'm sure; most people get no negative effects from it and a whole world of positives. My reaction was so bad I didn't think it could have been from the Na-R-ALA until I dosed it again and the same thing happened. Sucks, but that's life I guess. Look into taking ALCAR while taking Na-R-ALA as many people seem to love that combo (I think you are not supposed to dose them simultaneously because of some polymerization issue or something, but there are plenty of threads where smarter people than me give very specific instructions for dosing them).
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As long as one of them is capped, it's fine to dose together.
 
You can get a 2-pack of these (so 36 grams total of Na-Rala) for ~$50 shipped if you know where to look:

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Not hard to find at all
 
Driven2lift said:
Natty have you tried Metabolic Powder? Cook it into anything or just in water is fine too
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Its not bad. I prefer it cooked into things (it adds some nice flavor so long as you don't get a clump) or in a shake but its totally doable in just a bit of water. like 2oz for 2scoops is pleanty to just shoot.
 
Wow, unless I'm missing something obvious, thats almost half the price of Doctor's Best. :S Their 180cap 100mg is like $41.
 
Just got my recompadrol and took 2. I'm about to carb out on 4 bodybuilding waffles! I'll report back with my results........
 
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Don't be jelly
 
Nice appetizer, what's the main course? :D. That's does look tasty though. I love pancakes/waffles.
 
blacklac said:
Nice appetizer, what's the main course? :D. That's does look tasty though. I love pancakes/waffles.
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Thats actually 4 waffles and I couldn't finish them but they are actually good for you. I figured out each 1 has 12 grams of protein and they're made with oats and whole wheat flour. Let me know if you want the recipie?
 
So I popped 2 and ate about 200 grams carbs. What should I feel? Does it make you more pumped up once you start digesting or anything?
 
NattyForLife said:
Please share recipe.
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This is it you just have to replace about 1/2 cup of the flour with whole wheat flour to make it more healthy.(well you dont have to but I do) Not sure if you are familiar with Whole Wheat Flour but you want to store it in the freezer. Speaking of freezer these waffles freeze really well. I usually make a big batch then freeze. Reheat in 350 oven for 8 min. I also add some vanilla extract. I also emulsify the egg yolks and butter but you don't really have to. It is the key to great pancakes though. Let me know how they come out

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There is one thing I don't really get about GDA's. The mode of action of GDAs seems to be increasing insulin secretion and/or mimicking insulin action. If this is the case they should also increase fat mass, but it seems this is not the case. This is a bit confusing.
 
Rostam said:
There is one thing I don't really get about GDA's. The mode of action of GDAs seems to be increasing insulin secretion and/or mimicking insulin action. If this is the case they should also increase fat mass, but it seems this is not the case. This is a bit confusing.
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I posted the below elsewhere, therefore I'll just copy and paste it here:



Nutrient partitioning supplements are generally referred to as GDA's (although this is incorrect), or glucose disposal agents. The idea is that it's going to clear glucose out of our system without a rise in insulin.

Nutrient partitioning is the idea that you can increase muscle tissue insulin sensitivity and "drive" nutrients into these cells vs adipose tissue. It's sort of a tough subject, as there isn't much literature out there to support this. Potentially, this category of supplements may in fact increase insulin sensitivity in both fat and muscle cells.
 
Even before a heavy meal if it mimic insulin or increase insulin secretion it should increase fat gain I guess.
 
aaronuconn said:
I posted the below elsewhere, therefore I'll just copy and paste it here: Nutrient partitioning supplements are generally referred to as GDA's (although this is incorrect), or glucose disposal agents. The idea is that it's going to clear glucose out of our system without a rise in insulin. Nutrient partitioning is the idea that you can increase muscle tissue insulin sensitivity and "drive" nutrients into these cells vs adipose tissue. It's sort of a tough subject, as there isn't much literature out there to support this. Potentially, this category of supplements may in fact increase insulin sensitivity in both fat and muscle cells.
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So if they increase insulin sensitivity in fat cell why they don't facilitate fat gain? And some of GDAs like Banaba or cinnamon do actually increase insulin secretion. Very confusing.
 
Whatsup with all the recompadrol fans here? Everyone tells me it's junk compared to even just bulk Narala, wouldn't slin sane be way better bulking, or anabeta with Narala?
 
bechsgaard said:
Whatsup with all the recompadrol fans here? Everyone tells me it's junk compared to even just bulk Narala, wouldn't slin sane be way better bulking, or anabeta with Narala?
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For bulking? Anabeta may prove better

For an overall GDA, Recompadrol is a magic pill

We don't all recommend it for no reason we are speaking from experience. Try it yourself
 
Driven2lift said:
For bulking? Anabeta may prove better For an overall GDA, Recompadrol is a magic pill We don't all recommend it for no reason we are speaking from experience. Try it yourself
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Why would anabeta prove better? I thought much of it is more horomonal than GDA and therefore more helpful if you are an older individual?
 
bechsgaard said:
Why would anabeta prove better? I thought much of it is more horomonal than GDA and therefore more helpful if you are an older individual?
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Both are great.
Anabeta is not effective based on hormonal properties it is a natural anabolic. Hunger increases, muscle fullness, better muscle uptake of carbs.

Anabeta is about as good as it gets for a natural bulking supplement IMO.
 
bechsgaard said:
Whatsup with all the recompadrol fans here? Everyone tells me it's junk compared to even just bulk Narala, wouldn't slin sane be way better bulking, or anabeta with Narala?
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Actually I think slin sane is overpriced crap with low-quality extracts and recompadrol works great. Some people love slin sane and prefer it. You really have to try them for yourself because reactions will vary for everyone.
 
tyrub42 said:
Actually I think slin sane is overpriced crap with low-quality extracts and recompadrol works great. Some people love slin sane and prefer it. You really have to try them for yourself because reactions will vary for everyone.
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What do you mean when you refer to low-quality extracts? If it's the lack of Geronova sourced Na-R-ALA, Smitty mentioned that they had a 3rd party test the Na-R-ALA that they did source and that it was fine.
 
aaronuconn said:
What do you mean when you refer to low-quality extracts? If it's the lack of Geronova sourced Na-R-ALA, Smitty mentioned that they had a 3rd party test the Na-R-ALA that they did source and that it was fine.
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Oh no I should have mentioned I was referring to the original formula. I bought like 4 bottles of it because the formula looked like PSlin. I think that's why a lot of people bought it. Then I took it and felt nothing. Then I double dosed and felt nothing. I know that you don't 'feel' all GDAs the way you feel PSlin or berberine (that 'going hypo' feeling when you wait to eat carbs), so I withheld judgement and used it daily for several weeks and got no increased gym performance, no pumps, no fat loss, and none of the effects I normally get from quality GDAs. I recently bought some bulk GS 75% powder and bulk banaba 2%CA powder and pilled it myself. I feel that and have good results (not PSlin good, but PSlin is an amazing banaba extract). Since I have great results from the same extracts but got nothing from theirs, I am assuming their extracts were s**t. Slin Sane (V1) was the only GDA that I have ever felt was useless.

I still have to mention, though, that other people have loved it, so my results don't equal everyone else's. I am definitely not the only one who thinks that original SS was garbage, either, though. Sorry I was unclear in the original post! I forgot that they changed the formula.
 
Company rep presence usually dictates product love or hate. Seems to vary greatly from forum to forum... It can certainly be confusing.
 
bechsgaard said:
R we allowed to mention other forums here?
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Yeah there is no censorship here which is why its my favorite. Once you get used to the puny **** hawks that is. JK JKBut yeah I just popped 2 recompadrol and ate a big plate of chicken and rice then washed it down with some milk and anabeta
 
blacklac said:
Company rep presence usually dictates product love or hate. Seems to vary greatly from forum to forum... It can certainly be confusing.
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Dats true reps be puxhing but BB.com is worse and forget about t nation you cant even think about mentioning anything negative without getting ip banned lol
 
I think elite fitness is the worst lmao, fcking **** lovers. But I was reffering to bb.com

Tbh I only really use this forum when I get temp banned from bb, I like chilling in the misc, also the app is more phone friendly, community and info wise tho, this is the better forum
 
Just popped 2 recompadrols and carbing up on waffles again
 
SauceMonkey22 said:
Wrote a review for recompadrol, it was the best GDA experience I've had for damage control. So confident in it, i'm conquering three burgers tonight stuffed with cheese topped with eggs and hot sauce.
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Do you make those yourself? Grind your own meat? Thats what I do its the only way to fly
 
SauceMonkey22 said:
i will from time to time, but this is a birthday meal i'm going to a burger place. girlfriends paying for me too, makes it all the better
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She sounds hot!
 
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