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Alot of help deciphering my attempt at a first cycle

oldguyhere

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Im a new guy here considering running a cycle for the first time. I have done some research on here but to be honest Im still a bit confused esp on pct. I have stumbled into a jug of deca and 2 of test. I want to try a first cycle and from what I see on here my first cycle should be just test. Probably some stats are in order. I apologize if I don't include enough detail ask and I def will put more in. I'm trying to figure out what I should be doing esp for pct. Summer is coming and I want to turn an old ladies head or 2....

46 yrs old
6' tall
195 lbs
I have no idea on bodyfat or even how to guess.

My workout schedule looks like this
Sundays 7am legs and abs
Monday off
Tuesday 5 pmChest
Weds off
Thursday 5pm Back
Friday 5pm Shoulders
Sat 7 am this one is hit or miss i do usually a chest or if I missed a day I do whatever I missed. I throw abs in here and there during the week.

For diet I'm doing carb backloading. My protein intake is about 90 grams from morning till after workout then I pound another buck to buck fifty or so after my evening lifts. On morning lift days I try to maintain 200 grams a day. On off days I probably drop off to about 100 to 150 for the day. Any and all advice welcome and thanks in advance for the help.
 
What's the concentration of your test and deca? How many mg/ml and how big are those vials? 10ml each?

You could always go to the doctor, get your hormone levels checked and see if you are eligible to get TRT. I think most guys of your age are and that's not a bad option.
 
Im pretty sure they are 10ml. Ill check and make sure though. I thought about TRT. I'm switching doctors so Ill have myself checked.
 
the reason he mentions this I think, is because then your taking the PCT out of the equation.
how ever I think for your first run id try something small and see how you respond. are these vials pharma grade stuff or underground?
you would probably do just fine on 2-300 mgs of test a week for 12-16 weeks
how ever everyone loves their deca so after you run your first cycle you could then run a stack of the two.
PCT doesn't have to be so complicated, just pick your poison and use the recommended dosing for 4 weeks. after about two weeks on the SERM of your choice I find is a great time to add in a AI type product. you can use pharma grade or OTC. reversitol is a nice choice or erase pro. taper the dose of the AI down each week till it runs out and u should be pretty good.
 
Thanks for the reply xR1pp3Rx. My intent wasnt to take it out Im just kind of confused about it and looking for advice on what has worked for other seasoned gentlemen like myself esp being my first cycle. The jugs are 10ml and are from pro-labs listed as Rx grade. So for the pct start that at the end of my cycle then two weeks into that add the AI? Sorry I'm sure its like talking to an idiot at this point I just want to make sure I do it right. from what I read if I were to use clomid the dosage looks like this first week 50 second week 25 weeks three and four 12.5. Does that sound right? Thanks again for all the help
 
oldguyhere said:
Thanks for the reply xR1pp3Rx. My intent wasnt to take it out Im just kind of confused about it and looking for advice on what has worked for other seasoned gentlemen like myself esp being my first cycle. The jugs are 10ml and are from pro-labs listed as Rx grade. So for the pct start that at the end of my cycle then two weeks into that add the AI? Sorry I'm sure its like talking to an idiot at this point I just want to make sure I do it right. from what I read if I were to use clomid the dosage looks like this first week 50 second week 25 weeks three and four 12.5. Does that sound right? Thanks again for all the help
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You can use the AI since the start of your cycle.

Take Clomid at 50/50/25/25 - 2 weeks at 50mg/day and next 2 weeks at 25mg/day. Start Clomid 2 weeks after the last injection of testosterone (and If you're going to take Deca too, drop Deca 2 weeks before dropping Test).

Good luck!
 
Didn't mean to ignore the trt subject I was thinking of getting tested but to be honest I don't have any signs or symptoms so I don't think I'm a good candidate. But it might be worthwhile to get tested anyways just to get a baseline.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
You can use the AI since the start of your cycle.

Take Clomid at 50/50/25/25 - 2 weeks at 50mg/day and next 2 weeks at 25mg/day. Start Clomid 2 weeks after the last injection of testosterone (and If you're going to take Deca too, drop Deca 2 weeks before dropping Test).

Good luck!
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Thanks g0hardorgohom, I think Im gonna just do test for my first it seems to be suggested for a first cycle. I do appreciate the feedback.
 
oldguyhere said:
Thanks g0hardorgohom, I think Im gonna just do test for my first it seems to be suggested for a first cycle. I do appreciate the feedback.
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Test is best! Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. Other guys here will definitely help you too :)
 
Run test only as your first cycle. Trust me its plenty.
Best rule of thumb, only add 1 new compound per cycle.

So cycle 1=1 compound= test which is the safest and your body tends to like it. Few side effects.

250mg every 3rd day so like this..

M tw TH fs S mt W thf S etc. Yes its 6 days not 7 but your body doesnt know a week it does know when hormone levels are inconsistent and widely fluctuating which causes side effects.

500mg for 10 weeks.

Run Formeron-AI on cycle at 2-3 pumps per day.

I like to wait 21 days before starting PCT
Run clomid 50mg ED for 4 weeks + Formeron 1-2 pumps ED

This will be an incredible cycle. Enjoy.
 
Thanks Brundel, That's so easy even I can understand it. I do appreciate you taking the time to respond. I have everything inline except the AI. I will jump online and look up the Formeron.
 
oldguyhere said:
Thanks Brundel, That's so easy even I can understand it. I do appreciate you taking the time to respond. I have everything inline except the AI. I will jump online and look up the Formeron.
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You can't go wrong with Formeron - it's a perfect on-cycle AI. I think it's as good as Aromasin and if you buy Formeron, you always know that you get what the label claims.
 
oldguyhere said:
Thanks Brundel, That's so easy even I can understand it. I do appreciate you taking the time to respond. I have everything inline except the AI. I will jump online and look up the Formeron.
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Formeron can be found at nutraplanet. Id link but im on my phone.
 
Thanks Guys for all your help. I can see I lucked out registering on Anabolic Minds this is proving to be a good forum with great members.
 
Any thoughts on blasting and cruising?

Do your cycle then just cruise on a low 150~200/ week for awhile, then up the dose for another blast.

PCT sounds good and all, but after feeling young and spry on test then coming off you'll feel like shizzies, slowly but surely lose the majority of gains, lose strength, gain fat easier, then lack of ambition soon follows....

I dose my test C every other day, and doing so eliminates a lot of sides....I can get away with an OTC AI but do have research chems handy just in case.
 
waynaferd said:
Any thoughts on blasting and cruising?

Do your cycle then just cruise on a low 150~200/ week for awhile, then up the dose for another blast.

PCT sounds good and all, but after feeling young and spry on test then coming off you'll feel like shizzies, slowly but surely lose the majority of gains, lose strength, gain fat easier, then lack of ambition soon follows....

I dose my test C every other day, and doing so eliminates a lot of sides....I can get away with an OTC AI but do have research chems handy just in case.
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At your age you may be eligible to get doctor prescribed TRT already. Go to see your doc and listen what he (hopefully he, women don't understand anything about TRT) thinks :)
 
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