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First cycle... Any advice

Pghpitt

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I am contemplating on doing a simple cycle of Estrastain and advance cycle support dosing at max of 45 tren and 30 epi. The only thing I can't figure out is a good pct to follow up with. Btw I'm 29 and 180 and been training for 2 but I am looking for something to give me a boost...any advice would be greatly appreciated.. I've been reading up on ph for about 6 months on and off..
 
How have you been reading for 6 months and don't know how to pct? Have you been reading blank pages or something the whole time?

Just pick one and go with it. You don't need to stack two compounds you've never used before
 
Never heard of Estrastain but trendione in it is pretty much worthless at that dose - it should be run at 60mg AT MINIMUM, most people enjoy it at 90mg/day.

Never heard of that cycle support product either - AR1MACARE PRO is a good cycle support product and it has TUDCA in it, unlike most other support supps.

And I agree the above, pick one or other. I'd def go with Epi.

Olympus Labs EP15TANE gives the best bang for your buck - 1 bottle has 120x15mg capsules so it'd be enough for 6 weeks at 30/45/45/45/45/45.

For PCT you'll need 2 things: a SERM and a natural test booster/AI. I'd go with Nolva (tamoxifen citrate) and SUP3R PCT.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
Never heard of Estrastain but trendione in it is pretty much worthless at that dose - it should be run at 60mg AT MINIMUM, most people enjoy it at 90mg/day.

Never heard of that cycle support product either - AR1MACARE PRO is a good cycle support product and it has TUDCA in it, unlike most other support supps.

And I agree the above, pick one or other. I'd def go with Epi.

Olympus Labs EP15TANE gives the best bang for your buck - 1 bottle has 120x15mg capsules so it'd be enough for 6 weeks at 30/45/45/45/45/45.

For PCT you'll need 2 things: a SERM and a natural test booster/AI. I'd go with Nolva (tamoxifen citrate) and SUP3R PCT.
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^ this

Ep15tane would be my choice....with a serm for pct

For future cycles stacking is an option. For now one is more than enough.

Enjoy the ride.
 
Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione 15mg
2a-3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol 10mg

That's what is in it per serving
 
Pghpitt said:
Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione 15mg
2a-3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol 10mg

That's what is in it per serving
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Yep, like I said, amount of trendione (estra-3,9,11-triene-3,17-dione) is too low. Better go with Epi solo for first cycle anyway.
 
Pghpitt said:
Maybe I will have to up it to 60 and 40 and the advance cycle support is for liver while on it
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Better have two bottles them.

Out of curiosity, why do you want to stack two different compounds as your first cycle? You have no idea how you'll react to them. Trendione is 19-nor derivative so it's a whole different animal compared to many other compounds, in terms of possible side effects.
 
I'd prolly use epi first incase you develop some progesterone problems. They're kinda tricky to deal with, speak from experience with tren.

dose your epic 30-40mgs for 6 weeks

on cycle I would suggest some type of support such as cycle assist.

for your pct I would suggest clomid, pct ass / daa, and an optional cortisol product such as reduce xt starting 2 weeks into your pct
 
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