Worst Supplements Ever

Piston Honda said:
Consumers aren't allowed to call certain products "bad?" I thought this was an opinion-based thread. My apologies.
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I have no problem with honest consumer input. Biased consumer input directly from competing companies (1 star threads immediately when a PES thread is made, 1 star ratings before a product is even available for use, constantly going out of one's way to make comments) is what I find disrespectful. I could just as easily do the same. I could 1 star every MAN thread, 1 star every MAN product, write negative reviews about all of them, and then scientifically break down how I hated all of them. If I did this in thread after thread, how would you feel? Don't say you wouldn't care. It certainly gets annoying after a while. All I want is for the usual suspects (who work for companies; not common consumers) to be more respectful. For instance, I haven't said a word about any MAN products since our PM exchange asking for mutual respect on both sides. I'm hoping you will follow suit.

The initial comment wasn't directed towards you but I figured I'd just address this post so people see where I'm coming from, as an example
 
Are you accusing MAN of 1 starring your products? Or are you merely giving a "for instance?"
 
Piston Honda said:
Are you accusing MAN of 1 starring your products? Or are you merely giving a "for instance?"
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Nah that's why I posted that last bit. It was just as an example. Like if I went to your company and did that, you'd probably be as unhappy as many PES reps are. That's what I was trying to convey
 
rob112 said:
Every single pre/post workout with glucosamine/MSM/chondrotin/whatever. I'd add them to the list.

Unless I am understanding it wrong, correct me if I am, it's stupid to try and thwart inflammation around a workout.

Why?
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Actually read this....

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T-Bone said:
I can't stand seeing the argument that because a certain supplement "didn't work", it's because the person didn't have a perfect diet or training routine. That's ridiculous. It either works or it doesn't. If your training and diet are complete crap, and your "fix" your training and diet habits, and you "magically" start getting results, it is because of your improvement in your diet and training and not the supplement. Supplements that work will have an effect on your body regardless of training or diet. It's not like they "activate" like there is some kind of "switch".

As far as AAS, you can't say they don't work without proper training and diet. If your taking actual FDA approved steroids, then they will work even if you eat McDonald's.

Sure you may get more out of both types of products with proper diet and exercise but to say they don't do anything without proper diet and exercise is asinine.
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Agree with this. It's like when you sell cut up coke to a crackhead and he gets mad when it doesn't come back, then he wants his money back. "Hey **** you, you must of cooked it wrong"

Thats the oldest trick in the book.....
 
I was stacking erase,forsklin,and anabetta,took away my appetite no join pain what so ever nothing for me.
Alphamine was great for bulking for me gave me a huge apptite ate like a bear, I guess I'm just wierd.
 
iforce conquer.was dissolving the sample in a bottle and wifey asked what toxic chemicals i was ingesting.smell and taste were horrible
 
Really glad to not see the current most popular test booster on this list. Don't wanna say the name but most will know what I'm talking about cause it's being hailed as the most proven popular at the moment.


Oh and by the way, I ABSOLUTELY responded to every PES product I ever took.

Love that company for being innovators and leaders. I'm just not too sure about the reformulated products now.
 
Johnold said:
Really glad to not see the current most popular test booster on this list. Don't wanna say the name but most will know what I'm talking about cause it's being hailed as the most proven popular at the moment.

Oh and by the way, I ABSOLUTELY responded to every PES product I ever took.

Love that company for being innovators and leaders. I'm just not too sure about the reformulated products now.
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Daa? Lol
 
MAN products aren't bad but after buying 2 cycles of NXT & PRXT I found a horrible gripe and inconsistency with their stuff. Mainly NXT.
 
R1balla said:
the only product that i can see being called a "PCT" would be Erase Pro.
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He means Alphamax, i'm pretty sure. EP wouldn't make for a good PCT as it is only an AI, need more than that ;)
 
Jiigzz said:
He means Alphamax, i'm pretty sure. EP wouldn't make for a good PCT as it is only an AI, need more than that ;)
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i agree....but when Primordial was still around, everyone was using the phrase "closest thing to a SERM" when referring to Erase Pro, thats i thought he meant that.
 
R1balla said:
i agree....but when Primordial was still around, everyone was using the phrase "closest thing to a SERM" when referring to Erase Pro, thats i thought he meant that.
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Oh right, I wasn't around long in those days lol.
 
I'll need to give Alphamax a go myself.

If it works it works. If not then I'll be bummed cause I haven't read a bad review on it so far.

The thing about MAN is that although not too bad of products, I noticed some capsules full and others just completely hollow. I mean C'mon! WTF!

First time I bought both NXT & PRXT I noticed that about 97% of all NXT caps were pretty much empty. PRXT seems fine either way first AND second batch. Then my second batch of NXT I bought, EVERY SINGLE capsule was full to the max like it SHOULD BE! I have no words for this.

...inconsistency
 
hated supps list.

glycergrow
hemavol
Jack3d Advanced
glutamine
APS Nitrozine
RPM Drive
Mass HGH
Bio grow
horny goat weed supplements
test boosters (only liked beast super test, but even then...)
GPLC
DAA
CLA supplements
HMB
 
Auslifter said:
hated supps list.

glycergrow
hemavol
Jack3d Advanced
glutamine
APS Nitrozine
RPM Drive
Mass HGH
Bio grow
horny goat weed supplements
test boosters (only liked beast super test, but even then...)
GPLC
DAA
CLA supplements
HMB
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you made a thread about glycerol and stated you liked hemavol in it, then you put it under worst supplements?
Confused...
 
The Solution said:
you made a thread about glycerol and stated you liked hemavol in it, then you put it under worst supplements?
Confused...
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lol wat no it said i had used it before, i didn't say i liked it. i have never been a big fan of glycerol after trying both. i will admit it tasted good lol
 
Auslifter said:
lol wat no it said i had used it before, i didn't say i liked it. i have never been a big fan of glycerol after trying both. i will admit it tasted good lol
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Wat no
Yes you said you liked it

Auslifter said:
Wanting to learn more about Glycerol, or Micronized GMS. Always stayed away from it from hearing its negative effects towards hypertrophy temporarily wanting to try Katana or High volume lol but still not sure. i had glycergrow once and hated it felt sick. had hemavol and liked it, but kind of made it hard to train
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I didn't care for hemavol.

My favorite pre workout has been and still is white flood. Body never taps out from it. ALWAYS works!

CL is such a wonderful company.

Just bought the watermelon flavor of reborn. All KINDS of jolly rancher action!
 
Johnold said:
I didn't care for hemavol.

My favorite pre workout has been and still is white flood. Body never taps out from it. ALWAYS works!

CL is such a wonderful company.

Just bought the watermelon flavor of reborn. All KINDS of jolly rancher action!
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isnt hemavol a pump product
 
Auslifter said:
hated supps list.

glycergrow
hemavol
Jack3d Advanced
glutamine
APS Nitrozine
RPM Drive
Mass HGH
Bio grow
horny goat weed supplements
test boosters (only liked beast super test, but even then...)
GPLC
DAA
CLA supplements
HMB
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Gotta agree with most on this list... Although I did like RPM. Daa is cheap enough to stack with other stuff, but I wouldn't take it alone ever again.
 
Auslifter said:
hated supps list. glycergrow hemavol Jack3d Advanced glutamine APS Nitrozine RPM Drive Mass HGH Bio grow horny goat weed supplements test boosters (only liked beast super test, but even then...) GPLC DAA CLA supplements HMB
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Which supplements do you recommend? I'm quite curious. I just got taken on Bio grow. Dunno why I was so convinced to try it.
 
ikeNball said:
Which supplements do you recommend? I'm quite curious. I just got taken on Bio grow. Dunno why I was so convinced to try it.
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I just really like all of the PES supplements. Of course the reason I became a bps rep is because I like the line as well, but nobody wants to see a rep constantly pimping the product line. (dcp ftw)
 
R1balla said:
I just really like all of the PES supplements. Of course the reason I became a bps rep is because I like the line as well, but nobody wants to see a rep constantly pimping the product line. (dcp ftw)
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Even the new reformulated stuff?
 
Johnold said:
Even the new reformulated stuff?
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Haven't tried any yet. Just ordered the new anabeta elite and I'm logging it with ArA and endosurge. I've used ArA and endosurge stacked before so will be interesting to see how the results differ.
 
My question for PES is why in the world would you guys change something that was not broken? From a business point of view EPRO & ABE were your money makers. They were in pretty much a class their own. The originals. It was a business move that I didn't see a point in doing.
 
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