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Dave's Newest bulk into cut for show. AAS, SLIN and GH

1g test, 500g deca (blast cruise) with GH/igf-1/slin is magic.

Friend added about 26lbs in 1 year on this compounds alone. (On stage ~200 to being a super heavy)

That's how is will be looking for me in the "off season". I am shooting for 20lbs with a rigorous gh/slin combo with aas.
 
9ish weeks bro

Should be good times. Anavar is considered to be one of the more toxic traditional oral steroids - I don't see how 8wks of Epi is really any different for me. I think people like to pile on the hype train instead of just getting bloodwork & being smart.
 
Should be good times. Anavar is considered to be one of the more toxic traditional oral steroids - I don't see how 8wks of Epi is really any different for me. I think people like to pile on the hype train instead of just getting bloodwork & being smart.

Anavar toxic? News to me
 
Should be good times. Anavar is considered to be one of the more toxic traditional oral steroids - I don't see how 8wks of Epi is really any different for me. I think people like to pile on the hype train instead of just getting bloodwork & being smart.

Oh boy..... I'm a toxic girl, lol.....
 
Anavar toxic? News to me

Bro. Creatine kills your liver!

In all seriousness....worrying about var being toxic...lol.

Why not go the awesome route if var is not your style. Tren+test *16 to 18 weeks* and a winstrol kicker along with gh, igf1*lr3*, clen and fast acting slin 1x post workout for 6 weeks after the winstrol and finish with 4 weeks of a low dose superdrol run. Go into pct feeling like someone with actual testicles.

My competition stack if I ever do. Note...except for pct. I would be using short esters. 1 day before contest I would go ahead and stop the injections and 5 to 9 days prior the anti es. Keep the gh and igf1 and add in peptides 3x a day and inject some b12. Keep the t3 running and opt for another short cycle of an untested ds*those who are in the know know the one* Also add in diuretics 7 days prior. Along with some time in the sauna and tanning. Then jump into pct 2 weeks after comp. Or a cruise.
 
Should be good times. Anavar is considered to be one of the more toxic traditional oral steroids - I don't see how 8wks of Epi is really any different for me. I think people like to pile on the hype train instead of just getting bloodwork & being smart.


no sir. perhaps you are thinking anadrol.

var is one of the least toxic orals.

8 weeks of epi is dumb
 
no sir. perhaps you are thinking anadrol.

var is one of the least toxic orals.

8 weeks of epi is dumb

To add to what beast said-
Var was developed for women and very young children who were burn victims. Its hepatoxicity barely registers on a scale or raises liver enzymes. It has no viralization effects at low dose (never researched high dose). Its why so many women use it @ 10-20mg ed sometimes a bit higher
 
To add to what beast said- Var was developed for women and very young children who were burn victims. Its hepatoxicity barely registers on a scale or raises liver enzymes. It has no viralization effects at low dose (never researched high dose). Its why so many women use it @ 10-20mg ed sometimes a bit higher

Yes ... The 'bit higher' dose worked well for me :)
 
Var is actually one of the mildest "traditional" oral steroids. Not toxic. Shoot, low doses don't even completely shut down your hpta and personally I usually get a liquid version to dissolve under your tongue, it's a more direct delivery method
 
To add to what beast said- Var was developed for women and very young children who were burn victims. Its hepatoxicity barely registers on a scale or raises liver enzymes. It has no viralization effects at low dose (never researched high dose). Its why so many women use it @ 10-20mg ed sometimes a bit higher

And HIV patients....how do you think MAGIC GAINED weight.... GH and var, duh :thumbsup;
 
And HIV patients....how do you think MAGIC GAINED weight.... GH and var, duh :thumbsup;

True dat! Too bad Watson stopped producing Deca for aids/cancer patients. Those dbags stopped because profits weren't high enough. "We ain't making enough.money off these dying people.. lets stop helping them".
 
Any of you guys get serious lethargy sides when on tren? After about 2 weeks, anywhere that's not the gym looks like a good place for a nap. Any recommendations on preventing/alleviating these for my next cycle?
 
Any of you guys get serious lethargy sides when on tren? After about 2 weeks, anywhere that's not the gym looks like a good place for a nap. Any recommendations on preventing/alleviating these for my next cycle?

I get lethargic off test. Tren lethargy comes from low carbs for me and I just push through it.
 
Any of you guys get serious lethargy sides when on tren? After about 2 weeks, anywhere that's not the gym looks like a good place for a nap. Any recommendations on preventing/alleviating these for my next cycle?

Nope I eat mad food bro. I also pop caffeine pills like fukin tictacs lol. I honestly never get lethargic.
 
I get lethargic off test. Tren lethargy comes from low carbs for me and I just push through it.

Nope I eat mad food bro. I also pop caffeine pills like fukin tictacs lol. I honestly never get lethargic.

I definintely felt better when I added more food like you guys had suggested. The last few days have been much easier but still dragging ass a bit in the late afternoons or late mornings at that dreaded 1.5hr mark between meals. Im drinking some coffee right now and that's helped too.
 
I ran anavar for 6 weeks and had blood work done right after...liver enzymes were untouched.

Like most said previously, this steroid was designed not for us fellow muscle freaks, but for terminally sick people. The last thing any medical professional would want is a liver failing on top of all the other bullsh*t these sick people are dealing with.
 
Oh and I made an awesome new discovery! Sorry I love under a rock....

Cashew butter! I f**king love cashews!!!!! So how f**king awesome is cashew butter! Soooo tasty and filled with quality fats!
 
Oh and I made an awesome new discovery! Sorry I love under a rock....

Cashew butter! I f**king love cashews!!!!! So how f**king awesome is cashew butter! Soooo tasty and filled with quality fats!

Ok old guy where you been? This is like discovering that porn is in the internet and you can stop going to the video store and renting dirty movies from the creepy guy. Hahaha
 
To add to what beast said- Var was developed for women and very young children who were burn victims. Its hepatoxicity barely registers on a scale or raises liver enzymes. It has no viralization effects at low dose (never researched high dose). Its why so many women use it @ 10-20mg ed sometimes a bit higher

Sorry Dave I was agreeing with you. I listened to an interview done by john meadows and Shelby Starnes with Dr Scally I believe.

He ran a test/study with a patient starting at 50mg of var quickly working up to 150mg for 12 weeks and there was only slight elevation in enzymes at the very end.

He so stated Winstrol was the most liver toxic steroid out there.

Obviously not gospel but interesting. I'll try and find a link if anyone is interested
 
Sorry Dave I was agreeing with you. I listened to an interview done by john meadows and Shelby Starnes with Dr Scally I believe.

He ran a test/study with a patient starting at 50mg of var quickly working up to 150mg for 12 weeks and there was only slight elevation in enzymes at the very end.

He so stated Winstrol was the most liver toxic steroid out there.

Obviously not gospel but interesting. I'll try and find a link if anyone is interested

Oh my bad bro thought you were saying it was lol. I would love that link if you can find it sometime
 
Dudes! (And girl) I wandered over to the Anabolic section and read a few threads... wtf? I couldn't help but flame a few people. What happened? There are a few great threads then a bunch of little girls asking retarded questions. I hate the Twighlight generation.

/Tren rant
 
Haha, it's true, I was glad to have found this thread lol

Glad you did. This thread is full of big people no little girls (cept mags but she's yoked). Look at the dude I flamed his thread is "help a brother out". Everyone go flame him haha
 
Dudes! (And girl) I wandered over to the Anabolic section and read a few threads... wtf? I couldn't help but flame a few people. What happened? There are a few great threads then a bunch of little girls asking retarded questions. I hate the Twighlight generation. /Tren rant

It's getting horrible. I literally only hang in this section.
 
It's getting horrible. I literally only hang in this section.

I stick to a few threads and spy on my bros. Occasionally chime in on an intelligent question. Most of you guys just pm me a question or post it here and I do the same.
 
I'm finding more and more it's best to stick to the old school part of the anabolics section.
 
Oh my god go to the thread I posted about earlier. Its getting pretty fukin funny.
 
Ya I've been flaming a few of the "what should I run??!!!" Ones recently. If I could watch these jackasses in person I'd let them do it but it's no fun just hearing about another idiot dying or having bitchtits
 
Unicorn milk. Awesome. That tread went from as*tard lame to Winning in one post. I congratulate you sir. Well done
 
So anavar started today. 50Mg for 3 days then 75 for 3 then 100mg for 9 weeks! Woooooooo!!!!
 
Noted on the Anavar topic; glad to be schooled - rather be embarassed & wiser than living in the dark. I'm now much more interested in it. I was under the impression that Var was pretty toxic & anadrol not as bad. Never bothered to really learn enough about it cuz the pricetag scared me off.
 
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