how long will it take me to become a pro bodybuilder??
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Markos4
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Why lots of money?? U mean for the supps and traveling?lol
jake3137
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Yea "supplements". Just keep training and competing and eventually everything will fall into place if ur passionate about bodybuilding. In bodybuilding nothing works unless u have 3 things in check training, nutrition, and supplementation.
Markos4
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Haha,i know, i learned that the hard way. :/ i thought good nutrition wasn't necessary and that is why i didn't gain that much muscle my first year of lifting
harbonah
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One thing people are not saying here is you also must be willing to do ridiculous doses in your steroid cycles. Think of it this way the first year or to three plan to work on diet and learning to really train and grow as much naturally as you can. Step one win an NPC national qualifying show. Step two win a national show. That makes you an ifbb pro then you need to qualify for the Olympia.
jake3137
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"Ridiculous doses" come on man! U don't have to take grams on grams of gear. U do have to up the dosages a little bit and be lucky enough to have some of the worlds elite genetics. U ever think of all this guys taking large amounts of gear just maybe there stuff isn't pharma grade that's y they can't grow with reasonable dosages. U think them guys in the 70's and early 80's were taking high dosages? No they just had pharma grade gear. They manage to have some amazing physiques at that time
harbonah
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Yeah given my profession I have seen pharma and I have also seen non pharma... While you would imagine pharma as this all powerful thing many UGL's over dose their testosterone to build a name for themselves. When I say ridiculous dosing im referring to both weight and length of cycle. But regardless part of your statement was very true you need great genetics and in those you need to be able to tolerate mega dosing things like Tren & Eq. Sure become a 212 pro and you might not need crazy dosing and size, but to go pro and then take an Olympia as a heavy weight? Yeah we are now talking very large doses.
Matthersby
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Another thing to consider, the money you may win early-on should be invested in GH and insulin. You will need a lot of it.
jake3137
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I don't think that dosing has to be that high if u have elite genetics and there's very few ppl who have them genetics. Only maybe a few in the world. Ur genetics also play a role on how ur body reacts to certain compounds. U may need more or u may be lucky and get away with low dosing but to be an Olympian u have to have it all Perfect muscle bullies, symmetry, muscle insertions, perfect bone structure and then the right compounds. It goes the Same for the 212 div.
Mperkins
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I know im not even close, i weight 165 im 5'10 and im 17 years old,my bf is around 14percent and i wanna know like how many years will it take me and/or how do i become one,like do i just have to win alot of contests? Thanks and sorry for my ignorance
think of it this way. at your height most pros would be pro type ehhh 250 shredded to the max thats a example. well youre 138 lbs lbm at 16percent i added a few because most people misjudge their bf.. well thats alot of lbm to put on so just eat big and train heavy until youre ready to take the next step and have been training more than you have now
harbonah
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My only point with the 212 div was that being of less mass dosing would probably lower. Supporting 290 for the stage is going to require a lot higher dose then 212 but then as you said genetics will play a role.
Markos4
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I dont think i have the best genetics in the world though :/ so i have to win the npc competition and nationals so i can go to the Olympia. Also guys, can any of u tell me how much should i weight on my first competition and how much bf should i have? Ive thinking and I think ill start competing when i weigh like 190-200 pounds at 10percent bf but i dont know if that's good enough. Thanks for your help i really appreciate it
Markos4
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roids, hardwork,genetics, and knowing people is huge... trust me when i was your age i had that dream too
You gave up on your dream??
Markos4
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What if i build tolerance like what happens when you drink caffeine every day? Or it doesn't work the same way for roids?
pyrobatt
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Yes. Steroids are prevalent in natural shows. The test are easy to get around and they don't test for growth hormone, insulin and I believe they don't test for igf1/growth factor combo.
harbonah
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I think you are correct on what they don't test for. And I know for a fact a some beat the other tests by using the shorter esters for instance prop so they can come off pre testing and have normal levels. But I only know one guy in higher levels of natty so maybe its only him...
pyrobatt
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One thing I have to say about that....striated glutes. How the heck do they get striated glutes without drug use?low bodyfat yes but...I've seen some "pro natural" bodybuilders with thick veins in there glutes and feathers that would make Ronnie jealous. One of the most difficult things to grow. Almost as hard as calves.
pyrobatt
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Fact.
Ape McGrapes
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Learn to eat and train properly for a few years...Natty. Then compete in some physique shows. If you can win those and are proper age; move up amd start cycling properly amd safely.
Unless you have a trust fund, maintaining the pro BB lifestyle can be near to impossible. Especially withe rediculous cost of the large cycles of gear.
There's alot of gay for pay in BB.
Unless you have a trust fund, maintaining the pro BB lifestyle can be near to impossible. Especially withe rediculous cost of the large cycles of gear.
There's alot of gay for pay in BB.
Matthersby
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All good info and all true. GH alone costs my salary to run year round.
Markos4
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Yes thats what i have heard about the costs of roids and GH, but im planning on going to college after hs(next year) and get a degree on computer science. I wanna work as a software developer and they make really good money. During my time on college ill be working out without roids but as soon as i start working(around the age of 24-25) i think ill be ready for them and ill have the money. What do u guys think? :3
Matthersby
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You've got a good idea. I wish I had gotten that serious early on.
How's this: I partied way too much and skipped workouts constantly, but because I trained hard and ate well, I was able to put on 50 pounds from 17 to 20 years old.
Read the forums here on bulking and hypertrophy training every day. EVERY DAY. You'll be a monster before you even start messing around with what is really the unhealthiest part of bodybuilding.
Mperkins
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I agree on everything except the large cycles yes they do use large cycles but not always like forums say they do. to a person like me yeah i need that amount because im on some home brew ish. they use a ton but not like 2grams or some crap because they have pharma.
Magdalena
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I dont think i have the best genetics in the world though :/ so i have to win the npc competition and nationals so i can go to the Olympia. Also guys, can any of u tell me how much should i weight on my first competition and how much bf should i have? Ive thinking and I think ill start competing when i weigh like 190-200 pounds at 10percent bf but i dont know if that's good enough. Thanks for your help i really appreciate it
10% bf, for stage??? Not a chance...
I was at 6%... And I'm a woman... Guys get down way lower than that...
Also it's good to have a coach... There's a lot involved in show prep....
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Lol.....
Markos4
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Dang, i bet its really hard to get to less than 6%bf. Ohh well it seems like ill have to work harder.
canuck7
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I know im not even close, i weight 165 im 5'10 and im 17 years old,my bf is around 14percent and i wanna know like how many years will it take me and/or how do i become one,like do i just have to win alot of contests? Thanks and sorry for my ignorance
Be prepared to make a lifestyle choice, no drinking, beasting in the gym, eating even when you are not hungry, spending a lot of money on food, no night out with the boys drinking, no smoking weed, etc.you could get too 210-230 without drugs, problem is the pro bodybuilding scene is SO AWASH with a miriad of drugs you would have to take shedloads of everything just to be in the running.pro BB has become a monster that swallows up everything, as long as peoples increasing desire to see mass monsters then the judges will award accordingly. do you best, get as big as you can without drugs first, then take them 1st. just remember what you are up against.. just to put a little "perspective" on things, i looked up my universe results, proir to AAS. i reckon you've got to go back to about 1953 to see bodies that were natural. Sean connery "007" placed 3rd in the 1953 universe. looked small and smooth like the rest on them. about 190? i'm not knocking it, but it just shows how much drugs [exspensive!!] drugs play THE part today. do it cuz you love it but don't go down THAT road. good luck.
Gutterpump
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This kid is 17 yrs old and all you guys are lecturing him on steroid cycles? SMH
Matthersby
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The sooner everyone stops believing the lies and realizes what 100% of professional non-tested bodybuilders need to do to be successful, and more importantly, how dangerous it can potentially be, the better.
Mperkins
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are grapefruits included?
lol i do like kai no disrespect..
pyrobatt
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Hahaha theyre just tellinf me what ill have to do to become a pro
True but the real battle comes with your progress as a natural *training for 4 to 8 years* to reach your genetic potential. This would be the best time to hop on stuff. If your looking for a short cut to be a pro maybe you should re think this. Consider the cost, the mental battle getting to sub 4 % consider the high risk for injury, consider dieing young due to the sheer amount you will have to take and what you will have to take*slin coupled with gh= hypo glycemic possibly death* consider the risk of increasing igf1*can increase cancer growth* slin can make you a diabetic ect ect.
We may be giving you info but your only at the tip of the iceburg. Will you sink or float above those who have. *just watched titanic*
Time will tell. Learn and don't be stupid.
Markos4
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This is the best reply ive read since i signed up in this forum. Thanks ill really take this seriously and wont mess with that stuff til im like 25-28 years old.
Matthersby
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You're doing it smart though, kid. Get your career going and pursue your dreams with a backup plan in place. If you are planning on competing at that high of a level. Read this forum every day. Every day for 7 years. Every day I learn something new here that makes this hobby safer and more productive. We wanted you to be aware of the sacrifices necessary to
be successful. If you read about how Dorian Yates cycled, he's a good example of an intelligent steroid user that will live his full life expectancy. Hopefully.
Best of luck!
Gutterpump
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Hahaha theyre just tellinf me what ill have to do to become a pro
Well first things first though. You don't need to learn about or worry about steroids for years lol. Lots to learn before then. Don't put the cart before the horse.
There's far more helpful things people can talk about in here with you than drugs. You can give drugs to anyone, but it's not going to make them a pro.
Markos4
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Thanks and yes i try to.read it every day. And yea guys,but i wanna do some research on as already so ill know how and what to do when the time comes.