Help Setting up an RPN Havoc 6 Week Cycle

MaxFrost14

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Hey Everyone

I'm going to be starting an RPN Havoc Cycle here in the coming weeks. I am looking for advice on pre-cycle supplements, cycle supplements, and PCT. Also, anyo other advice you would like to share.

I have made up my mind to take this supplement, so please don't waste your time telling me not to.

I am 25 years old. Thin at 122 lbs.

My goal is to gain lean muscle mass. My target weight is 140, although I do not expect to gain a full 18 lbs on this cycle alone.

This is my plan:

Pre-Cycle For 1 Week:

Milk Thistle, Liv 52, Creatine, Vitamins, Fish Oil, Calcium, Joint Support, and a lot of water and protein

Cycle By Week:

Havoc 20/30/30/30/40/40
Milk Thistle, Liv 52, Creatine, Vitamins, Fish Oil, Calcium, Joint Support, a lot of water, a lot of protein (I am going to try to consume at least 60g of protein a day)

Plan on going to the gym 5 days a week and working hard. No alcohol.


PCT:

THIS is where I really need advice. I don't want to use any products that require a prescription, it's all gotta be over-the-counter or something I can buy online.




I have some experience with Havoc. I did a quick 3 week cycle 2 years ago and loved the results. I felt powerful and gained 4 lbs of muscle. BUT I was young and stupid, I was partying a lot in college and lost focus of my goals. Back pumps got bad and I stopped.

I'm ready to do it again, with maturity. I will update my results here on the forum... maybe photos.

Appreciate all advice!

Thank You.
 
I really think you should look into some dieting options and natty supplements with your stats . HOWEVER if you are going to run it then do Epi for 6 weeks at 30 mgs. Use Cycle Assist while on cycle and use either Triazole or Erase with SNS DAA or another test booster for PCT
 
mw1 said:
I really think you should look into some dieting options and natty supplements with your stats . HOWEVER if you are going to run it then do Epi for 6 weeks at 30 mgs. Use Cycle Assist while on cycle and use either Triazole or Erase with SNS DAA or another test booster for PCT
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Thanks dude. What's a Natty Supplement?

How do you compare Epi to Havoc?
 
You need to figure out your diet before using steroids. No way are you ready at a weight of 122. Learn to eat properly, get to 180 min and if your training is on point which I doubt based on your weight then look into using ds/ph.
 
MaxFrost14 said:
i'm still getting used to all the lingo you guys use, lol
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Hey man just my 2 cents but diet really depicts gains I would get that in check before you do anything and I say that only so you dont waist your money. we started out really close to the same stats I was 5"11' and was 165 I worked out hard for a year and the only supplement I took was protein and a preworkout and got up to 185 and cut. No hormones. But I tell you what when I did do my first cycle I blew up and I kept it because my muscles were now being stimulated to a higher level that was previously never thought possible and my diet was in line to keep my gains.
Good luck though in what ever you choose to do but know that where you are at you can make tons of gains, save a lot of money/ put it to other beneficial stuff and not even mess with your hormones
 
MaxFrost14 said:
PCT:

THIS is where I really need advice. I don't want to use any products that require a prescription, it's all gotta be over-the-counter or something I can buy online.
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This is what's bothering me right here. Do you know that the product you are about to use is an oral steroid? Not a prohormone, an oral steroid, hopefully you know the difference between those two things as well. You NEED a SERM, and an AI, with a natty test booster at a minimum for PCT. The SERM is no compromise. You can get it online at a research chem site or some other places on the web as well. If I was going to drop any one of those three from a PCT, just because someone was going to kill me if I didn't(lol) it would be the AI, the SERM is definitely the most important.
 
McCrew530 said:
Hey man just my 2 cents but diet really depicts gains I would get that in check before you do anything and I say that only so you dont waist your money. we started out really close to the same stats I was 5"11' and was 165 I worked out hard for a year and the only supplement I took was protein and a preworkout and got up to 185 and cut. No hormones. But I tell you what when I did do my first cycle I blew up and I kept it because my muscles were now being stimulated to a higher level that was previously never thought possible and my diet was in line to keep my gains.
Good luck though in what ever you choose to do but know that where you are at you can make tons of gains, save a lot of money/ put it to other beneficial stuff and not even mess with your hormones
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this is excellent, non-condescending advice. thank you for not being smug about it
 
SuperPro said:
This is what's bothering me right here. Do you know that the product you are about to use is an oral steroid? Not a prohormone, an oral steroid, hopefully you know the difference between those two things as well. You NEED a SERM, and an AI, with a natty test booster at a minimum for PCT. The SERM is no compromise. You can get it online at a research chem site or some other places on the web as well. If I was going to drop any one of those three from a PCT, just because someone was going to kill me if I didn't(lol) it would be the AI, the SERM is definitely the most important.
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thanks
 
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