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PCT and PH help

bugiscooby03

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So Im looking to do a cycle but not really sure what to do.

A little background:
23 years old 190 lbs lean. Been lifting for around 4 years. I ran a cycle of hdrol a year ago put on about 9lbs kept about 6 lbs of that.

Im looking for a PH that is legal and does'nt absolutely require a serm. Most here always suggest a serm no matter what cycle which I understand. A serm will be within my reach for worst case scenario but I want to stay away from that if at all possible.

Goals are just to put on some muscle weight wet or dry isn't a big concern. Ive done a great deal of research but everything is so self conflicting.
Ive been looking into p-bold some people run without serm some with.

Thanks for any and all help guys.
 
If you don't wanna run a SERM, you have to run a weak PH.

Why no SERM?

Read this about p bold

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bugiscooby03 said:
And my question was if there are PH's that are safe to run without serm. I have a serm that I have readily available but only want to use it for emergencies.
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How will you know if it's an emergency? Seriously! The way you feel is not always a clear indication of shut down. Why take the chance? Just add the serm to your pct. Sure you could low dose some non- methyl ph but it would still put stress on your body and the gains would be minimal to none over simply going natty.
 
if you are that worried i'd just stay away from ph's. why do you have a serm if you are concerned about the legality? does it make it suddenly more illegal if you take it after cycling a round of "grey area of legality" steroids? i'm confused
 
can't get a serm or something? xgels + daa would be a good natural stack you could use if a ph/ds isn't an option.

Why not hdrol again, you seemed to have good results with it the first time!
 
Something mild like halo or pmag (very similar) at 50mg for 4 weeks are the only things I would feel safe taking without a SERM. Nobody I know back home that takes PHs even know that they exist so I commend you for looking it up. This is because the dumbasses at the local supp stores that sell the stuff don't know a GD thing. They sell some of the strongest stuff out there to whoever will pay and give them some tribulus for their PCT.
 
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