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Maxamizing Ara supplments

Elroy85 said:
How would man prxt stack with the xgels?
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Definitely needs to be dosed hours apart.
ARA= inflammatory. PR XT has anti inflammatory effects.
Would be pointless to take at the same time.
 
Tried it today. Just downed the GMS, then water and a slight swirl. Easy..

Not my favorite prewo activity, but I enjoyed my Alphamine so much more after ;)
 
Christurner14 said:
Gonna start xfactor advanced soon and been reading up on GMS and carnitine, so these help with Ara? And what types of doses should be taken??
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the beauty of ara is that it can totally stand alone without needing help, since its so awesome for everybody who needs a boost in their ara levels. interestingly, a pf3 logger on ara reported the inflammatory soreness dissappeared when he started taking pf3, so im wondering if pf3 is a way to get all the awesome benefits of ara without the extra doms
 
thescience said:
the beauty of ara is that it can totally stand alone without needing help, since its so awesome for everybody who needs a boost in their ara levels. interestingly, a pf3 logger on ara reported the inflammatory soreness dissappeared when he started taking pf3, so im wondering if pf3 is a way to get all the awesome benefits of ara without the extra doms
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Is PF3 a COX-2 inhibitor?
 
Wait everyone is taking two scoops of As GMS (6gs) I've been taking one scoop 3.3 grams. Hmmm.
 
halfhuman said:
Wait everyone is taking two scoops of As GMS (6gs) I've been taking one scoop 3.3 grams. Hmmm.
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A higher dose of gms will be more ideal as the fats replicate taking it with a meal (emulsification purposes), but without the insulin spike.
 
SwolenONE said:
A higher dose of gms will be more ideal as the fats replicate taking it with a meal (emulsification purposes), but without the insulin spike.
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Thanx for the clarification. I guess I'll go with two scoops (6.3g or so) So basically it turns fat globules into smaller with later dose correct?
 
SwolenONE said:
That was for some work Bill was doing, the clinical will be at the University of Tampa. They are arranging the participants.
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what is the aim of the study? Like to see if there are changes in strength/health/body composition?

Interested to hear
 
Alasel said:
what is the aim of the study? Like to see if there are changes in strength/health/body composition?

Interested to hear
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Great question, I believe we are looking at both changes in strength/power and hypetrophy/body composition.

Also, I replied to your PM, thanks for you interest in ArA!
 
SwolenONE said:
Great question, I believe we are looking at both changes in strength/power and hypetrophy/body composition.

Also, I replied to your PM, thanks for you interest in ArA!
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Wow, that sounds good. It's a great thing to see companies ( all be it the minority ) do studies on ingredients/their products. Anymore info you can share?

When it is completed (I understand this may be some time) please do share the results on the forum.

Thank you, I am a loyal supporter of Molecular Nutrition. One of the few companies which base their products on science, my favourite company.
 
Alasel said:
Wow, that sounds good. It's a great thing to see companies ( all be it the minority ) do studies on ingredients/their products. Anymore info you can share?

When it is completed (I understand this may be some time) please do share the results on the forum.

Thank you, I am a loyal supporter of Molecular Nutrition. One of the few companies which base their products on science, my favourite company.
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Thank you sir, yes we have spent over $50k in R&D this year... many companies that outsell us ten fold cant say that!

This newest study is just beginning, but should be ready to publish before the end of this year. We will keep you all posted!

When buying from MN, your dollars go a long way toward supporting innovation and the progress of human performance and of our industry as a whole. Expect another first to market extract in our upcoming Test Factor reformulation!
 
SwolenONE said:
Thank you sir, yes we have spent over $50k in R&D this year... many companies that outsell us ten fold cant say that!

This newest study is just beginning, but should be ready to publish before the end of this year. We will keep you all posted!

When buying from MN, your dollars go a long way toward supporting innovation and the progress of human performance and of our industry as a whole. Expect another first to market extract in our upcoming Test Factor reformulation!
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New testfactor? Eta?
 
Ginandtonic said:
New testfactor? Eta?
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Shouldnt be too much longer, and having seen the formula, Im confident it will be the best test booster on the market.

More on a precise eta once I have it. I'm off to Vegas for the O, hope to see many of you there!
 
chainsaw said:
Would Micronized GMS be a better option vs regular GMS?
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If you want to mix it, yes. I just throw it into my mouth and chase it with my pre workout of choice though.
 
warbird01 said:
If you want to mix it, yes. I just throw it into my mouth and chase it with my pre workout of choice though.
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X2, parachuting is the way to go when dosing gms in my opinion.
 
SwolenONE said:
X2, parachuting is the way to go when dosing gms in my opinion.
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Tried that once.. But isn't there so much powder you'd need to parachute 2-3 times? I look ridiculous every time I take gms just throwing it back with a chaser (lots of disgusted facial expressions) but parachuting seems like a lot of work
 
Christurner14 said:
Whilst* haha
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This will be completely individual as to your personal dietary needs. As Kbayne said, be sure not to go overboard on omega 3s.

The majority of our users, myself included, often still keep fish oil in the mix at 3g or less/day (dosed as far away from X-Factor as possible). The rare users we see who have real conflicts with too high of omega 3 doses are those who do olive oil shots or who eat fair amounts of salmon daily.

For maximal results, we recommend keeping the omega 3 low and maximizing your intake of fats from meats, cheese, dairy rather than focusing on getting your fats from nuts, seeds, fish, olive oil, etc.
 
Wocheezy said:
Tried that once.. But isn't there so much powder you'd need to parachute 2-3 times? I look ridiculous every time I take gms just throwing it back with a chaser (lots of disgusted facial expressions) but parachuting seems like a lot of work
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This too will be individual, at 6g of gms it may take a couple tries of parachuting it down to not get it clogged up in your throat. I'll have to try Mr Cooper's suggestion of mixing it the night before.

Personally, Ive always either parachuted or mixed it in a small amount of water, swirling it around and chugging it (of course, some still sticks to the sides of the glass so like parachuting it can take a few swigs to get it all down).
 
Regarding 1.5g vs 2g.. is dosage weight dependant?

Currently using 1.5g and seeing awesome results, but I'm wondering if I should bump it to 2g..
I dose on wo days only and currently lift weights EOD - so 3-4 times per week.
 
bdybldnaam said:
Regarding 1.5g vs 2g.. is dosage weight dependant? Currently using 1.5g and seeing awesome results, but I'm wondering if I should bump it to 2g.. I dose on wo days only and currently lift weights EOD - so 3-4 times per week.
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A few people say they notice a difference between 1.5-2 grams. But then again others say they don't.

If you are seeing good results from 1.5 grams I would stick with it.
 
Christurner14 said:
Does Berberine in recompadrol affect the ArA??
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Many people use GDA's with Berberine while on X-Factor. While theoretically avoiding anything remotely anti inflammatory was our recommendation, we have since seen through hundreds of anecdotal reports that the effects of X-Factor/ArA will not be cancelled out by light anti inflammatory ingredients such as Berberine.

bdybldnaam said:
Regarding 1.5g vs 2g.. is dosage weight dependant?

Currently using 1.5g and seeing awesome results, but I'm wondering if I should bump it to 2g..
I dose on wo days only and currently lift weights EOD - so 3-4 times per week.
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My thought is this, if you tolerate 1.5g well (no side effects) you can try 2g as a max dose. As others have said though, if its working well at 1.5g there is no need to fix what isnt broken!
 
bdybldnaam said:
Regarding 1.5g vs 2g.. is dosage weight dependant? Currently using 1.5g and seeing awesome results, but I'm wondering if I should bump it to 2g.. I dose on wo days only and currently lift weights EOD - so 3-4 times per week.
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Dosage is not weight dependent. I notice benefits of ArA on only 750 mg and usually get headaches taking over 1 gram. Some people tolerate it better than others. I usually recommend starting low and working your way up and finding what works best for you.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Pre-mix your micro GMS the night before and leave it in the fridge. Works wonders
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This works well for BCAA's as well.
SwolenONE said:
The rare users we see who have real conflicts with too high of omega 3 doses are those who do olive oil shots or who eat fair amounts of salmon daily.
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Olive oil is mainly omega 6 with a relatively low omega 3 profile
 
Spaniard said:
This works well for BCAA's as well.


Olive oil is mainly omega 6 with a relatively low omega 3 profile
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Olive oil is well known for being anti inflammatory, I assure you olive oil shots are one of few things that will hinder your X-Factor results. Bill and I have spoken with thousands of customers over the past decade (as well as Bill being the most knowledgeable person on the planet on ArA) and fish/flax users tend to only do upwards of 5g a day and never seem to have problems, it is those who consume high amounts of olive oil who don't respond to X-Factor.
 
SwolenONE said:
Olive oil is well known for being anti inflammatory, I assure you olive oil shots are one of few things that will hinder your X-Factor results. Bill and I have spoken with thousands of customers over the past decade (as well as Bill being the most knowledgeable person on the planet on ArA) and fish/flax users tend to only do upwards of 5g a day and never seem to have problems, it is those who consume high amounts of olive oil who don't respond to X-Factor.
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I wasn't disagreeing on the anti inflammatory properties my good man, just the omega 3 profile. My people consume olive oil by the tons lol
 
SwolenONE said:
Olive oil is well known for being anti inflammatory, I assure you olive oil shots are one of few things that will hinder your X-Factor results. Bill and I have spoken with thousands of customers over the past decade (as well as Bill being the most knowledgeable person on the planet on ArA) and fish/flax users tend to only do upwards of 5g a day and never seem to have problems, it is those who consume high amounts of olive oil who don't respond to X-Factor.
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You wot m8
 
Interaction with olive oil would be due to the chief constituent (oleic acid) and its ability to drive down plasma/tissue ArA levels. Not due to the anti-inflammatory effects of ArA.

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It's also worth noting the olive oil is up to 25% linoleic acid, which is used in the biosynthesis of ArA
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Interaction with olive oil would be due to the chief constituent (oleic acid) and its ability to drive down plasma/tissue ArA levels. Not due to the anti-inflammatory effects of ArA.

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It's also worth noting the olive oil is up to 25% linoleic acid, which is used in the biosynthesis of ArA
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ArA is anti inflammatory?
 
So I know we should avoid omega 3's with Ara, but do we need to avoid antioxidants as well since they're anti-inflammatory? Thanks.
 
raekwonse said:
So I know we should avoid omega 3's with Ara, but do we need to avoid antioxidants as well since they're anti-inflammatory? Thanks.
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Depends. I wouldn't say you need to avoid them, but if taking them in large amounts, dose at least 4 hours away from ArA.
 
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