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Test, tren and winny

Mp859 said:
Nice progress bro

Your gonna miss that tren
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Thanks man. Yes I am going to miss it. I really really like tren lol. Going to be hard to go natty after this run :(

LiveToLift said:
Joint issues aren't good at all man! Debated using winny and was a bit worried about the joint problems.

How sad are you about the last tren pin?
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Man I've never ha joint pain this bad. It's really quite rough. Hopefully pulsing it relieves some of this joint pain. If not ill have to discontinue :(
I'm very sad. I've enjoyed tren a lot and I dont want to stop lol. On a positive note I am going to koh Samui and they sell steroids over the counter.... Might have to stock up while I'm over there for my next run after wifey gets preggers. :)
 
One other thing worth mentioning re sides of tren is my endurance is way way down. Doing chest and back supersets the other day I was that breathless I felt like I'd just sprinted a mile. Even walking up stairs I've been getting out of breath. Tren cough is something I also forgot to mention. Only happens after pinning an it feels like I'm trying to cough up a lung. If I hold it it passes if I start coughing I can't stop for at least 15 minutes.
 
Lukef2000 said:
One other thing worth mentioning re sides of tren is my endurance is way way down. Doing chest and back supersets the other day I was that breathless I felt like I'd just sprinted a mile. Even walking up stairs I've been getting out of breath. Tren cough is something I also forgot to mention. Only happens after pinning an it feels like I'm trying to cough up a lung. If I hold it it passes if I start coughing I can't stop for at least 15 minutes.
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Have you tried doing cardio? Lol it's horrible! I feel like I can't breath.
 
Day 65

Pinned 120mg tren ace
50mg winny
12.5mg exem

Sorry bout the lack of updates been really busy with work. ****ing night shift. Hit some arms before work. Smashed them with tri bi supersets.

Day 66

25mg winny

Off day today. Only had a few hour sleep after night shift. Got three days off now. Will be back j to the swing of things tomorrow.
 
Day 67

50mg winny
12.5mg exemstane

Had a really effing busy day today and by the time I was done I was struggling to make time for gym but I managed to squeeze in a chest and back superset workout. Was supposed to be legs but it was teeny bopper Tuesday and the decided they were going to use the squat rack as their point of conversation.... Gives me the right ****s that does. Anyways rant over

Chest back supersets ( had to improvise a bit as it was peak hour and was stupidly packed )

Flat chest DB press
50 x 15
70 x 12
110 x 8 x 8 x8 (biggest DB in this particular gym)
Superset wide grip chins
BW x 12 x12 x 12

Incline DB press
90 x 8 x 8 x 8
Superset
Deadstop rows
110 x 10 x 10 x 10

Cable flyes
35 x 12 x 12 x 12
Superset
Seated rows
135 x 15 x 12 x 12

BW push-ups 3 x failure I think the first set was 40 something lol
Superset
Hammer strength high rows
90 per side x 12 x 12 x 12

Had to lighten the weight a fair bit as this winny is still drying me up pretty bad. Will drop the dose to 25mg for the rest of the week and see how it goes.
Diets been good and clean. I haven't been counting cals as diets remained pretty consistent I know without counting I'm at least 3300 3500 calories.
Sides: holy mother of sensitive nips. If it doesn't start to subside ill add in erase on my off days from exem and see how that goes.
Side note: went to a work function tonight and everyone was saying how big I've gotten. One of the girls I work with reckon my pecs are bigger than her tits lol :P
 
Thy sucks about the sensitivity... And with already dry joints that erase could be brutal... Have you tried any joint aids or maybe some extra fish oils and the like as far as natty supps for joint pain?
 
booneman77 said:
Thy sucks about the sensitivity... And with already dry joints that erase could be brutal... Have you tried any joint aids or maybe some extra fish oils and the like as far as natty supps for joint pain?
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Yeah the joint pain is from the winny so hopefully spreading the erase and exemstane in different days doesn't kill my e2 and dry me out even more. I'm currently on Achilles at 4 caps a day and 6 krill oil. Does not seem to be helping much at this point :( only another two weeks to go hopefully it doesn't get any worse.
 
booneman77 said:
Thy sucks about the sensitivity... And with already dry joints that erase could be brutal... Have you tried any joint aids or maybe some extra fish oils and the like as far as natty supps for joint pain?
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Yeah the joint pain is from the winny so hopefully spreading the erase and exemstane in different days doesn't kill my e2 and dry me out even more. I'm currently on Achilles at 4 caps a day and 6 krill oil. Does not seem to be helping much at this point :( only another two weeks to go hopefully it doesn't get any worse.
 
thyrod said:
Drop the erase bro!! Don't need that extra druness. Nice db work bro.
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Ill drop it once the tenderness goes down. I haven't got a lump under there and need to get the tenderness under control before I do. Hopefully dosing exem and erase on different days won't be overkill but just enough.
 
Nah I think 415 is your goal for the cycle!!!

Yeah that warm up, read from kelkel on a differnt forum, that guys a monster.
 
Day 68

25mg winny
375mg test e

Had a pretty sweet leg session today. ****ing killed it. Been playing around with my winny dose timing and it seemed to help with my leg session today. Knees were still a bit dry but not too bad. Had to go in peak hour today so I had to improvise a bit.

Leg day

Leg extensions
65 x 20 x 20

Squats
Bw x 20 x 20
Bar x 20
135 x 15
390 x 6
405 x 2 PR!! Weight and reps
390 x 5
365 x 7
315 x 10 x 8
220 x 13

Cable leg press machine
450 ( the whole stack ) x 15 x 12 x 12 x 12 x 10
This Machine is an absolute killer!!!

Leg extensions
135 x 12 x 13 x 12

Leg curls ( hate these but I'm still struggling with the last of tren back pumps )
125 x 12 x 12 x 12

Doesn't look like a whole lot but I was trashed. I even skipped out on calves. So happy with finally getting that 405. It was effing heavy but felt awesome. Had a bunch of big fellas stop an watch me do it too. I sure they were thinking I was going to fail.
Nip sensitivity has gone down after my exem dosing so ill hold off on erase for now.
I had to skip a meal but I made up for it post workout 2 cups mashed sweet potato and a lb of steak got my cals back up to where they needed to be.
 
Did I read this wrongs 10 sets of 8 on 315. That's a massive jump from135-390. You don't work your way up?
 
thyrod said:
Did I read this wrongs 10 sets of 8 on 315. That's a massive jump from135-390. You don't work your way up?
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I always train reverse pyramid style so after my warmup I put on max weight and then drop weight every set while still aiming for a target rep range. Lol I wish I could pull 10 sets of 8 at 315, that would be insane. Might try that next week :P
 
Day 69

25mg winny
12.5 exemstane

Another retardedly busy day today. All wedding ****. Tbh ill be glad when its all over. Managed to put aside plenty of time to smash some shoulders.

Shoulder day

Smith shoulder press
135 x 12
175 x 10 x 7 x 9 drop 135 x 10

Hammer strength shoulder press
100 per side x 10 x 8 x 8

Seated side lateral raises ( elbows were dry as **** so I went lighter )
30 x 10 x 10 x 10

Nautilus side lateral raise machine
Didn't even look at weight but 3 x 15

Rear delt flyes
30 x 10 x 10 x 10 static hold last rep until failure

Smith shrugs
10 sets working up to 315. Every set to failure with reps varying from 7 to 25

Lunge squat machine shrugs
220 x 25 x 25 x 25

Smith calve raises
220 x 18 x 16 x 15 x 12 x 10

Seated calve raise
110 x 16 x 15 x 12 x 8
Superset
Shït squats
Bw x 25 x 25 x 25.

My smith shoulder press hasn't shown much improvement lately. I did push 200 a few weeks ago but since my joints have dried up I'm struggling with 175.
Joints have been dry but manageable since lowering my dose of winny. Nips are still sensitive but they are also manageable the way they are. Wish wifey would stop hitting them on purpose. She can be cruel lol.
Ate an absolute **** load today. Was just hungry all day. I'd eat be satisfied for 30 mins then I'd be starving again.
 
Day 70

25mg winny

Had a tiring day at the office, a site wide evacuation enforced by my department kept me busy all effing day. Anyways I went down and hit some arms. Didn't keep track but tri bi supersets had my arms totally pumped.
Joints felt good today, zero dryness. Had some epic DOMS in my traps, quads and glutes today. Haven't had that in awhile.
Taking the next three days off unfortunately as the gyms closed by the time I get home over the weekend and Monday I'm driving 13 hours.
 
Day 72

25mg winny
12.5mg exem

Off day today. Kept diet in check for lack of activity.

Day 73

25mg winny

Another off day today. Same as yesterday, kept diet in check for lack of activity. 13 hour drive tomorrow. It's never fun. Hoping to get up early and hit a quick session before I start, I left my pre workout at my other place so getting up at 0530 to go train could prove to be an issue lol.
 
Sorry bout th lack of updates guys. Been busy with wedding ****. Can not believe ill be married on Saturday....

Day 74

25mg winny
Nothing major to note. Lifted in the am then drove 13 hours down to the Gold Coast. Hit a pr of 265 on bent over rows.

Day 75

Pinned 375mg test e
Totally forgot winny today :(

Hit arms with some major time constraints. There was drop sets, tri sets, giant sets rest pauses etc etc basically smashed them in 40 minutes. Diets been ok. Not great but not bad considering. Back on the wagon once I check into my unit tomorrow.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Sorry bout th lack of updates guys. Been busy with wedding ****. Can not believe ill be married on Saturday....

Day 74

25mg winny
Nothing major to note. Lifted in the am then drove 13 hours down to the Gold Coast. Hit a pr of 265 on bent over rows.

Day 75

Pinned 375mg test e
Totally forgot winny today :(

Hit arms with some major time constraints. There was drop sets, tri sets, giant sets rest pauses etc etc basically smashed them in 40 minutes. Diets been ok. Not great but not bad considering. Back on the wagon once I check into my unit tomorrow.
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Late but in, congrats and good luck this weekend! No idea you were getting married!
 
Congrats again bud
 
TheSwanks said:
Late but in, congrats and good luck this weekend! No idea you were getting married!
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Thanks for that swanky. That's actually the reason I jumped into this cycle, wifey told me after the wedding that's it with hormone use until we have kids so I assessed my stash and was like ok then I've got plenty to run a cycle before the wedding lol.

Danb2285 said:
Congrats again bud
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Thanks bro. Nerves starting to rear their ugly heads lol.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Thanks for that swanky. That's actually the reason I jumped into this cycle, wifey told me after the wedding that's it with hormone use until we have kids so I assessed my stash and was like ok then I've got plenty to run a cycle before the wedding lol.

Thanks bro. Nerves starting to rear their ugly heads lol.
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I would have taken that as a cue as well. Lol :)
 
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