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1-andro math's log

What you don't like pain :) ... Yah there is pain and pain I woudln't take it for doms or anything.
 
He clearly stated it was for a tooth ache.....
 
On a cut, keep L-Glutamine high and immune system is not a worry. Same for most cycles. You ever hear of me getting sick on cycle?
 
Yeah L-Glutamine is damn good stuff, increases GH output, improves Immune system dramatically and also stimulates protein synthesis. It is often thought not to be very bioavailable, but that is how much of it gets to the muscle like 53% but the reason for that is that the rest is taken directly to support the immune system. So it is a win win!
 
yup - the old "lack of understanding on the value of glutamine" issue..
good stuff as usual kleenster ;) ESPECIALLY if doing a cycle, but important for natty guys too
another way to combat sickness from arising is plenty of key antioxidants..this makes our BCAA+SAA quite valuable, in this setting
(SAAs have immense antioxidant effect in themselves)
 
Thanks for the good info about L-glutamine ill def get some for my new cycle. I will write an update tomorrow, things are going good
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
yup - the old "lack of understanding on the value of glutamine" issue..
good stuff as usual kleenster ;) ESPECIALLY if doing a cycle, but important for natty guys too
another way to combat sickness from arising is plenty of key antioxidants..this makes our BCAA+SAA quite valuable, in this setting
(SAAs have immense antioxidant effect in themselves)
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How much BCAA+SAA you using now Steve ?
 
DreamWeaver said:
How much BCAA+SAA you using now Steve ?
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1 scoop at strategic timeframes:
upon rising/before bed
preWO (in mix w/ Ignite2/Max Pump/couple scoops CreaTrona
intraWO (in addition to couple scoops CreaTrona)
postWO (follow with full postWO nutrition 20-30min later)

been working very well :)
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
1 scoop at strategic timeframes:
upon rising/before bed
preWO (in mix w/ Ignite2/Max Pump/couple scoops CreaTrona
intraWO (in addition to couple scoops CreaTrona)
postWO (follow with full postWO nutrition 20-30min later)

been working very well :)
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I am updating my regime as I have a good bit of it in this order. I am going for something similar... thanks. Love the fuggin taste too so it's a nice treat besides. I'm fuggin stoked :)
 
I'm waiting for the Max Pump and BCAA,+SAA to arrive....good times are coming...let's not forget the Creatrona
 
Quick update folks... everything is cool! Feel even stronger than 5 days ago, breaking plateaus everytime i do a muscle! Weight is at 177 when waking up! got a Quick question for the beasts out there... I see a very good promo on some site about 1-alpha (i dont plan on Doing it right Now but just planning on buying it for my future run) and i tried to Read as much as i could about it but still have some questions... its about the same thing as 1-andro but stronger? Are sides the same or would i possiby have to worry about my Dick getting up? I dont mind a little drop in libido like the 1-andro tho... Any other sides or anything i should know about it? Thanks guys
 
good to hear all is going well my friend :)

as for the 1-Alpha: very similar to 1-Andro but it is a bit more potent yes, better absorption..
this allows you to dose less (only 2 caps max on this one), still follow all other guidelines (ie dose 8-12hrs apart, take with fat-containing meals, etc)

some ppl do feel a bit of lethargy on this one; I personally do not (but 1-Andro does not bother me either)
 
all right thanks, i dont mind the lethargy had some with 1-andro as i said i just wanna make sure this product is not the kind That kill sex drive
 
Math33 said:
all right thanks, i dont mind the lethargy had some with 1-andro as i said i just wanna make sure this product is not the kind That kill sex drive
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is always a potential, with any hormonal product
whether it becomes a reality for you or not, is another matter entirely
most ppl using as directed, do not experience this, on either product
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
is always a potential, with any hormonal product
whether it becomes a reality for you or not, is another matter entirely
most ppl using as directed, do not experience this, on either product
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This.

Everyone reacts different to everything.

That being said if you are having a good experience with 1-andro then 1-Alpha would MOST LIKELY treat you very well. The two products are very similar with 1-Alpha delivering a bigger bang due to higher absorption but sides are usually very minimal if any at all.

As with any new product though, a little time at recommended dosage is always the best practice to see how you react.
 
Yes personally I see almost no sides on 1-alpha which seems to be the norm but some will have some issues. It's that everybody being different thing :)
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yes personally I see almost no sides on 1-alpha which seems to be the norm but some will have some issues. It's that everybody being different thing :)
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Both are amazing, and never had any sides.

Strange thing is, I feel like 1-andro gives me more weight increase, and 1-alpha more strenght increase...crazy I know.
 
edje007 said:
Strange thing is, I feel like 1-andro gives me more weight increase, and 1-alpha more strenght increase...crazy I know.
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not really strange at all bro :D
that's true feedback right there - 1-Andro DOES have more water retention potential due to its construction;
whereas 1-Alpha has less + more strength potential, for the same reasons..

it takes someone VERY in tune with their body to be able to assess that tho..I commend you!
:box:
 
i knew 1-andro was more of a wet compound than 1-alpha but i thought That 1-alpha would give more muscle gains than 1-andro! Im surprised
 
1-Andro is NOT a wet compound!
simply more chance to retain a bit of water with that one..
dietary maneuverings will dictate the amount of water you appear to hold on it; eat like crap, you will have crap bodycomp/results
 
I have ran both and enjoyed both of them. They are really quite comparable and unless your composition is as lean as Edge's you probably won't notice that you "may" retain a little more water. I didn't have any issues with water retention from either of them. In reality I think 1-Andro is a little quicker to hit but in the long run the extended bioavailability of 1-Alpha tends to be just a bit stronger. Simply put there is more of the 1-Andro being released faster, but a couple weeks in there will be more 1-Alpha in your system making the gains come on. A start on 1-Andro bridging into 1-Alpha might be worthwhile for that very reason. HMMM... Maybe I will try to set something like this up for my next run.
 
yeah sounds cool hehe i might try That too in 2 months! Quick questions for you beasts out there... A friend of mine got some helladrol (hdrol clone) and supposedly doesnt require a real SERM but just an otc pct and i got a Bottle of pct black revolution That i wont be using, could i sell it to him? He would basically be Doing the same PCT as i am Doing? sorry to bother about this we re from quebec and he doesnt speak a ****ing word in english lol and i know you guys know a ****load of stuff so...
 
hmmm well: no product is mandatory to have to use a true serm..
however - yeah I would personally never run such a product without one..
that said: I will stand on the pointed fact that I feel our PCT Black is THE best otc pct-product you can lay hands on :)
 
I'm with snags on this one. I wouldn't run a methylated compound without a SERM on hand. Although HD is regarded as one of the milder compounds on the market, it is still suppressive and can shutdown the body's natural production of testosterone. The purpose of the SERM is to "restart" the HPTA, per se, and to block the estrogen that is produced from converting the newly created testosterone, from binding to the receptors in the breast tissue. I'd rather not suffer from rebound gynecomastia, but that's just me.
 
iparatroop said:
I'm with snags on this one. I wouldn't run a methylated compound without a SERM on hand. Although HD is regarded as one of the milder compounds on the market, it is still suppressive and can shutdown the body's natural production of testosterone. The purpose of the SERM is to "restart" the HPTA, per se, and to block the estrogen that is produced from converting the newly created testosterone, from binding to the receptors in the breast tissue. I'd rather not suffer from rebound gynecomastia, but that's just me.
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I'm not a doctor...but it would be common sence to use a serm with something like h-drol...
 
Agreed.
 
Thanks guys! Sorry for the Lack of posts lately... Its just That its still the same hehe... Real strong! Had some joint pain Doing triceps today but nothing too bad, otherwise its all good! still 177... Feeling pumped all day! 5 days left... Just as a reminder guys, pct is 2 pills pct black at night before Bed and 4 pills of pure test throughout the day?
 
Quick questions folks... My libido been pretty low lately like i never think about having sex until my gf comes at me for it and i do it mostly cause i need to lol :/... Would it be ok to start the Pure TEST right Now to help with That for the last days? 6 pills a day splited throughout the day
 
Math33 said:
Quick questions folks... My libido been pretty low lately like i never think about having sex until my gf comes at me for it and i do it mostly cause i need to lol :/... Would it be ok to start the Pure TEST right Now to help with That for the last days? 6 pills a day splited throughout the day
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I would finish the cycle, and start with the pure test after that.

How many days of cycle do you have left? Not a lot I think?
 
^^ ed got you covered here
no sense to run the Pure Test when you are on PH..the hormonal product will override the natural one every time
you can start Pure Test in the last 3 days of your cycle or so, to get a quick jump on saturation
for now, if you really feel it to be an issue, run some PCT Black 1-2 caps at night before bed
 
All right guys thanks! Its really not an issue honestly and what you guys say makes sense! I got 4 days left so ill Wait :P! This product is awesome and im running it low dose... I got friends telling me its impossible i am 178 which is an awesome feeling hehe! the pump is great too, ill really work hard in PCT to keep everything.
 
I like to bridge DAA the last three days of a PH cycle myself. Feels like I never really leave the "Zone" so to speak.
 
Hi everyone... Last week has been hard, had no electricity for like 4-5 days due to a storm... Still managed to eat correctly tho! Just got electricity back so ill update for anybody in the future thats reading this for infos... Im day 3 of PCT, everything is good so far... Strenght is still there, lethargy is less present. my final Weight in is 179lbs, so i managed to gain 10lbs during this bulk cycle, which i think 8 of it is muscle gain and 2 of it is fat. The cycle was great even tho i did a low dose and i would def recommend to ppl to go straight 4 pills ED. The best for me was the strenght and endurence, it was a blast! im alot stronger than before the cycle and im keeping this strenght so far! regarding the side effects, only thing That hit me was lethargy but it wasnt That bad and could easily be handled with some supps. There was also a drop of libido but for anybody wondering, i still had woods every morning and could have sex at anytime, just didnt feel like it sometimes :P. Thats it for the sides, no joint pain unless i pushed myself way too far but it went away a couple hours after the workout. Thats about it for the products review, i strongly recommend this to anyone entering in the ph world and who wants to go step by step and start off very mild( yet effective)!
 
ahh nice feedback my man, appreciate the summary!
make sure to follow proper pct protocol, and you should be able to do well with keeping what you have gained
truth will show more towards end of pct, rather than immediately at end, as there are still heightened levels in your system lingering
thanks again for logging your efforts! :)
 
Lets think positive... ill try and get some GAINS during pct, not lose some! :P and thanks to YOU guys for the awesome help, you guys are really dedicated and made me feel like i had people ready to help if anything wrong happend, which is to best you can offer as a rep! thanks again, see yall next cycle :)
 
Oh and forgot, yeah im making sure about the PCT , pure test 3 Times a day at a dose of 2pills, and 2 PCT rev before sleep!
 
Math33 said:
Lets think positive... ill try and get some GAINS during pct, not lose some! :P and thanks to YOU guys for the awesome help, you guys are really dedicated and made me feel like i had people ready to help if anything wrong happend, which is to best you can offer as a rep! thanks again, see yall next cycle :)
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very appreciative of that sentiment - and very nice intuition on your part, as this is what all of us here truly strive to bring you
product without guidance is no way to present your line! :)
and fyi - yes, no reason you cannot continue your progress in pct, surely

Math33 said:
Oh and forgot, yeah im making sure about the PCT , pure test 3 Times a day at a dose of 2pills, and 2 PCT rev before sleep!
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you got it
 
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